[Coladam] NIAD COMMENTS

shonmccallum at juno.com shonmccallum at juno.com
Sun Feb 21 10:29:47 CET 2010


Yes Lyle was a good person that is also a born again Christian. NIAD had some good family policies and excellent business ethics. I have most of the NIAD newsletters and Adam House newsletters. Perhaps one day I will scan them into my computer. It sounds like someone else is going to scan the NIAD newsletters into a PDF format. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
            Its good to hear from some of the old Adam friends. I was at Adam Con 1 in Florida and a Ohio Adam Con. Hopefully sometime in the future there will be another Adam Con in Florida.   


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Today's Topics:

  1. Cartridge Roundup by Jim Notini (article written in 1990
     about Coleco cartridges) (Daniel Bienvenu)
  2. Cartridge Roundup by Jim Notini (article written in 1990
     about Coleco cartridges) [PART 2] (Daniel Bienvenu)
  3.  A look at NIAD Newsletter (Jim Notini)
  4. Re :   A look at NIAD Newsletter (Daniel Bienvenu)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:47:29 +0000 (GMT)
From: Daniel Bienvenu <newcoleco at yahoo.fr>
Subject: [Coladam] Cartridge Roundup by Jim Notini (article written in
1990 about Coleco cartridges)
To: coladam at adamcon.org, colecoprogramming at yahoogroups.com
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The following is what you can read in NIAD newsletter issue#62, march 1990, pages 5-8. As a personal note : Even if I'm not certain about the definition of public domain given here, I'm glad that they do consider some games as public domain to keep copies of them during all these years.

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Page 5

Cartridge Roundup by Jim Notini

What was made? What was released? What's considered public domain or not? What is still available and where? Has anyone seen...? These are some of the many questions that I've fielded over the 2 years which I've been working for N.I.A.D. about the status of CV carts, which we all know can be played on the ADAM. Answers to these questions are long overdue and the following list (rather lengthy) details what cartridges were developed and released as well as developed but not released. The list is broken up into 5 separate categories which list the : NAME, COMPANY which released or developed the cartridge, cartridge SIZE in "K" (kilobytes), whether the cartridge was RELEASED or not and if the cartridge is still AVAILABLE (this column will list out either available through TeleGames USA or N.I.A.D., if the cartridge was placed into the PUBLIC DOMAIN or if the cartridge is NOT AVAILABLE anymore)

Many people would say that since a cartridge is no longer available through a commercial retailer, that it should be considered public domain, BUT this is not entirely the case! The cartridge rights, of course, are still held by the company which developed the cartridge, but TeleGames USA could possibly have licensed the rights to some of these unavailable carts and have decided to hold off on production for awhile. Truthfully, it's very uncertain just what carts TeleGames USA owns the rights too and therefore has caused a lot of misconception around the ADAM community as to what is considered public domain. The best way to decide if a game is public domain or not is to look up the title on the followin list. If the game is marked as unavailable, but was marked YES in the RELEASED column, then it's not public domain and of course, if the cart is still available through one of the many ADAM Dealers, then it is NOT PUBLIC DOMAIN.

I would like to thank Richard Salvati for the contribution of his own personal list which he compiled through what could only have been many stenuous hours of research in magazines, etc. Without his contribution, this list would have been mainly dealt with carts which had been released. Most of the list comes directly from carts that I've copied onto disk (exactly 150) and this is how I'm able to list the cart size in "K". I only wish that I did not sell off my original carts (106 in total) a couple years ago because these carts are going to become collector's items just as baseball cards, stamps, etc. are collector's items and they will be worth a pretty penny in the future.

There are some special requirements on a number of the below listed cartridges. Turbo, The Dukes of Hazard and Destructor require the EXPANSION MODULE #2 DRIVING CONTROLLER and both Pitstop and Fall Guy can use this controller. Super Action Baseball, S.A. Football, S.A. Soccer, S.A. Boxing - Rocky and Front Line require the SUPER ACTION CONTROLLERS, all games that function with the standard hand controller will work with these controllers. Slither and Victory require the ROLLER CONTROLLER and Omega Race can use it as well as this controller's ability to function as a cursor control (IE: a mouse) using many of the ADAM Computer programs! Also Super Cobra and Defender will not operate properly when placed on the ADAM. For this reason, Super Cobra has been placed into public domain and Defender will be a likely candidate once the current supply of originals runs out. Most of the Coleco's cartridge utilities require at least a 64K Memory Expander (IE: Adam
Diagnostic). Check the Product List to see if we still have the cartridge version or DDP/DISK version for games we have available. If you've any questions, feel free to write or call me about this list directly at N.I.A.D.

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This is by no means a complete list of all the titles which were developed or even in the developmental stage by many of the companies listed as well as many other numerous companies which where just entering the videogame market on the ColecoVision game system. One such example is the company which developed FORTUNE BUILDER for coleco, CIRCUITS & SYSTEMS INC. Reports from their development team had it that another 5 cartridges were in the works and planned for release through 1985. It is unfortunate that these carts will never become available for one reason or another, but hopefully there is enough already available to keep everyone busy.

>From time to time, we'll continue to contact these companies to see if something can be worked out to finally release these titles, but for the mos part, the release of any new titles seems very unlikely. Our best bet at the current time is to support TeleGames USA as much as possible and just maybe they'll be able to work some deals out with these companies to bring us new cartridges.

A last minute inclusion on this list is the column containing the RETAIL price of a cartridge that is still available through TeleGames USA. These retail prices are from their Winter 1989 catalog and possibly could have changed by now. Also the list does not contain any prices on cartridges which we (N.I.A.D.) still have available. For the most current retail price on these cartridges, check the Product List on Page 20.

A number of cartridges have also been made available on Data Pack or Disk. These titles are : *Alcazar, *Rock'N Bolt, *Boulder dash, Tournament Tennis, Wing War, Fathom, Kung-fu Superkicks, Pitfall, River Raid, Beamrider, Keystone Kapers, Pitfall II, Sewer Sam, Aquattack, H.E.R.O., Decathlon, Zenji, Blockade Runner, Squish'em Sam, Moonsweeper, Nova Blast, Motocross Racer, *Sir Lancelot, Campaign '84, Gust Buster, Quest for Quintana Roo, Rolloverture, Mountain King, and TeleGames Skiing. The titles with an asterix are only available on DDP or DISK.

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 00:25:13 +0000 (GMT)
From: Daniel Bienvenu <newcoleco at yahoo.fr>
Subject: [Coladam] Cartridge Roundup by Jim Notini (article written in
1990 about Coleco cartridges) [PART 2]
To: coladam at adamcon.org, colecoprogramming at yahoogroups.com
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The following is not the complete list of Coleco cartridges, and not the complete list from the NIAD newsletter... it will takes too long to type and the columns can be screwed up easily depending on the way you're checking the information. The notes between ( ) are my personal two cents.

NAME : 9 TO 5
PRODUCED BY : FOX GAMES
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : ADAM DEMO
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 24K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN
(Already a problem. I've seen a cartridge of it at the ADAMCon that was apparently used to promote and sell Coleco Adam computers)

NAME : ADAM DIAGNOSTIC
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 32K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : APPLE CIDER SPIDER
PRODUCED BY : SIERRA ON-LINE
SIZE : 16K
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(Remember that Jim Notini stated that he was able to give us the ROM SIZE because he got copies of these games and utilities onto disks)

NAME : ASTRO CHASE
PRODUCED BY : PARKER BROTHERS
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : BLANK TAPE RESTORER
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 8K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : BLUE PRINT
PRODUCED BY : CBS SOFTWARE
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : BUCK ROGERS TAPE RESTORER
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 8K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : CABBAGE PATCH KIDS ADVENTURES IN THE PARK+
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 16K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN
(This version may be the one titled "128K", which is the same game as the original version but with improved graphics and added obstacles.)

NAME : CHALLANGER
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : CHESS CHALLANGER
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : DESTRUCTION DERBY
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : DIG DUG
PRODUCED BY : ATARISOFT
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(As we know it now, this game was developed and finally released by Digital Press [Sean Kelly] into cartridges at the beggining of the new millenium, and then re-released for awhile with a label variation more "Atarisoft looking" from AtariAge web site.)

NAME : DINO EGGS
PRODUCED BY : MICROFUN
SIZE : 16K
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(Remember that Jim Notini stated that he was able to give us the ROM SIZE because he got copies of these games and utilities onto disks)

NAME : DISK DRIVE BURN-IN
PRODUCDED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 8K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : DRACULA
PRODUCDED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : DRAGON STOMPER
PRODUCDED BY : STARPATH
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : EARTH DIES SCREAMING, THE
PRODUCDED BY : STARPATH
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : ESCAPE FROM THE MINDMASTER
PRODUCDED BY : STARPATH
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(We know that a ROM exists, I've played it).

NAME : FALL GUY
PRODUCDED BY : FOX GAMES
SIZE : 16K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : FINAL TEST
PRODUCDED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 8K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : GAMMA TEST
PRODUCDED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 16K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : GLOBE GRABBER
PRODUCDED BY : MICROFUN
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : HORSE RACING
PRODUCDED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : LORD OF THE DUNGEON
PRODUCDED BY : PROBE 2000
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(We know that Digital Press (Sean Kelly) did release this game into special cartridges capable of saving the player's game progression. If we think about it, this game was supposed to be the first videogame cartridge ever to use a save game option, no?)

NAME : LUNAR LEEPER
PRODUCDED BY : SIERRA ON-LINE
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : M*A*S*H
PRODUCDED BY : FOX GAMES
SIZE : 16K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : MADDEN FOOTBALL
PRODUCED BY : CBS SOFTWARE
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : MELTDOWN
PRODUCDED BY : FOX GAMES
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : MEMORY MANOR
PRODUCDED BY : FISHER PRICE
SIZE : 16K
RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN
(One of the listed games as released and public domain at the same time. Seems contradictary based on what he said himself in the article.)

NAME : MOGUL MANIAC W/JOYBOARD
PRODUCDED BY : AMIGA
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : MR. TURTLE!
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(As far as I understand the concept of this game, it's supposed to be a mix between an educational game and a plateform+adventure game where you move mr.turtle around to pick up letters to spell the word PEARL in a colored not easy scenary.)

NAME : MUSIC DEMO
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 24K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : NUMBER BUMPER
PRODUCED BY : SUNRISE SOFTWARE
SIZE : 16K
RELEASED, N.I.A.D.
(At the end of the issue, I can see that this educational game was for sale at N.I.A.D. for $15.95 but they don't specify it as a game cartridge. Personally, I've never seen a cartridge of it, or even played this game.)

NAME : PASTFINDER
PRODUCED BY : ACTIVISION
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : PHASER PATROL
PRODUCED BY : STARPATH
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : PHEONIX
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : PORKY'S
PRODUCED BY : FOX GAMES
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(Well, I've played a prototype ROM file and I've never passed the 3rd screen. You first start by building two ladders on top of trees. Then you have to escape by reaching the top of the screen while a naked woman is taken a shower in the center of the screen and notice your presence. And then you've to cross the highway(?) filled with random stuff to... I don't know I've reached the other side.)

NAME : POWERLORDS
PRODUCED BY : PROBE 2000
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(Again, Digital Press (Sean Kelly) did release this game in cartridge format. I should say that without instructions I don't understand what to do, but it seems easier to play than Lord of the Dungeon.)

NAME : PROJECT NAME BY LINE V1
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 32K
RELEASED, S.M. VIDEO
PRICE : $24.95
( The Coleco Graphics Processor (C.G.P.) is the real name of this Coleco's In-House graphic design utility as well as a means of developing code for most of their cartridges and Supergames. C.G.P. also served as a means for Coleco programmers to port over code from VAX machines as well as send code from ADAM to the VAX units. The main purpose of this program is in its graphic design potential and ability to create sprites for implementation of graphics into their games. )

NAME : PROJECT NAME BY LINE V2
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 32K
RELEASED, S.M. VIDEO
PRICE : $24.95
(I didn't know there was more than a version of it.)

NAME : PURSUIT OF PINK PANTHER, THE
PRODUCED BY : PROBE 2000
SIZE  : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(I did find years ago a mention of this game project in a review of I think was the CES'84 (so during the vg crash period). In the same article, a company was also speaking of a future modem-like device that will allow a pay-per-play system for ColecoVision owners to play games to be stored in big servers like The Source which can be described as an early attempt to connect people like the Internet does today. Unfortunately, copyrights and other problems did makes the project not possible.)

NAME : QUICK STEP
PRODUCED BY : IMAGIC
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : RIP CORD
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : ROBOTRON 2084
PRODUCED BY : ATARISOFT
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : ROUND UP
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : SCRAPER CAPER
PRODUCED BY : MICROFUN
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : SHORT CIRCUIT
PRODUCED BY : MICROFUN
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : SIDE TRAK
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : SKIING
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(Well, I've a problem here because I'm pretty sure someone told me that the game Skiing released by Telegames was not made by Telegames but was bought by them to release it. And even if the skiing game in the Coleco presskit looks quite amazing, nothing tells us that they may have done instead the version Telegames did sell and forget about the goggles view point. If anyone has more informations about Skiing, please share with us.)

NAME : SMARTBASIC RESTORER
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 8K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : SMARTDSK CART
PRODUCED BY : WALTERS SOFTWARE
SIZE : ?
RELEASED, NIAD

NAME : SMURF PLAY'N LEARN
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : SMURFETTE'S BIRTHDAY (Previously named PAPA SMURF'S TREASURE HUNT)
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(Please note that Smurf Play'N Learn and Smurfette's Birthday are both using the same game code in the catalog which indicates me that they abandoned smurf Play'N Learn to go with the Treasure Hunt game renamed later Smurfette's Birthday.)

NAME : SPACEMASTER X-7
PRODUCED BY : FOX GAMES
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : SPECTAR
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : SUPER ACTION CONTROLLER TEST
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 6K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : SUPER COBRA
PRODUCED BY : PARKER BROTHERS
SIZE : 16K
RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN
(One of the listed games as released and public domain at the same time. Seems contradictary based on what he said himself in the article.)

NAME : SWORD AND THE SORCERER, THE
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
( Well, a ROM dump was done to reveal that this game appears to be at the stage of a demonstration of what the game should be, not playable, only a one screen animation with sound effects. )

NAME : TAC-SCAN
PRODUCED BY : SEGA
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : TAPE DRIVE BURN-IN
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 8K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : TAPE UTILITY REVISION 22
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 8K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : TEST MENU
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : 16K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : TIME RUNNER
PRODUCED BY : MICROFUN
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : TUNNELS & TROLLS
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : TURMOIL
PRODUCED BY : FOX GAMES
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(There was an attempt by a programmer to do his own ColecoVision version of Turmoil. I wonder if this project is still active or dead.)

NAME : VANGUARD
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(The rumor is that the project was abandonned and the programmer did work on another scrolling game project : Moon Patrol)

NAME : VIDEO HUSTLER
PRODUCED BY : KONAMI
SIZE : 8K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : WILD WESTERN
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(We know for sure that a mockup cartridge was done by Coleco.)

NAME : WINGS
PRODUCED BY : CBS SOFTWARE
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : WIZARD OF ID: WIZMATH
PRODUCED BY : SYDNEY DEVELOPMENT
SIZE : 16K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN
(I'm not sure this game was never released in cartridge)

NAME : WIZARD OF OZ
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

NAME : WIZARD OF WOR
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE
(Well, I'll need to check again the presskit, but I think this game was supposed to be produced by CBS SOFTWARE or CBS ELECTRONICS, not COLECO...)

NAME : WORD FEUD
PRODUCED BY : XONOX
SIZE : 8K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN

NAME : YOKES'S ON YOU
PRODUCED BY : FOX GAMES
SIZE : 16K
NOT RELEASED, PUBLIC DOMAIN
(It's an error of typing the game's name I guess because I've a ROM file here titled THE YOLK'S ON YOU by 20th Century Fox.)

NAME : Z-80 MACRO ASSEMBLER
PRODUCED BY : COLECO
SIZE : ?
NOT RELEASED, NOT AVAILABLE

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The rest of the list is filled with games we already know to be in cartridges, and doesn't include the double-ender ones, and very rare cartridges like SUPER SKETCH. As for the retail prices, the cheapest ones $14.95 was (from TeleGames USA) CARNIVAL, COSMIC AVENGER, COSMIC CRISIS, DEFENDER, DONKEY KONG JUNIOR, GORF, LADY BUG, LOOPING, MR.DO!, PEPPER II, SMURF RESCUE IN GARGAMEL'S CASTLE, SMURF PAINT'N PLAY, SPACE FURY, SPACE PANIC, STRIKE IT, SUBROC, TANK WAR, VENTURE and VICTORY.


     



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:32:31 -0600
From: "Jim Notini" <jnoti2 at comcast.net>
Subject: [Coladam]  A look at NIAD Newsletter
To: <coladam at adamcon.org>
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Daniel,

Let me first start by introducing myself. My name is Jim Notini and I worked for Lyle Marschand at his computer store where NIAD was also operated from 1988-2002. Shortly after starting work for Lyle, I gradually assumed more and more of the duties of NIAD's operation from tech support, running the mail order, writing articles for the newsletter, etc., etc. and then finally becoming the editor of the newsletter. Lyle took a back seat rather quickly once I came onboard... this is by no means a knock on Lyle as he had started NIAD all by himself in 1984 and spent countless hours building it up into the success that it became (with the help of many others who will go unnamed here) all the while working a full-time job and raising a family, etc.

Before I get into the main subject, let me thank you for your continued support of the ColecoVision. I have really enjoyed your titles and thank you for making them available in ROM format to be used with an Coleco/ADAM emulator.

I saw your post regarding the NIAD Newsletter and wish to clearify a couple of points you made.

First, Lyle was a born-again Christian and everything he did and said was based on those principals of Christianity. I personally didn't like the inclusion of this in the newsletter that was about a computer (especially since I'm not a very religious person) , but it was his business.

As far as your misconceptions to the ADAM Software that was being sold by NIAD... there was no PIRACY going on unlike what your message might infer. The software titles that started with the name NIAD Public Domain..... were just that, freeware programs for SmartBASIC, SmartLOGO, CP/M, Graphics, Coleco Unreleased software, etc., etc. Other titles listed in the Product List were either distributed by NIAD through agreement with the author, bought in bulk from other ADAM retailers of the time or bought in bulk from the actual software designer. So even though NIAD doesn't exist anymore, please exercise a little caution as to how you phrase your posts.

As far as the ADAMcon dates, the only thing I can think of is that you have a copy of a NIAD issue that was hand-typed into a computer by someone and the dates were entered wrong. If your in possession of the actual printed newsletter or one that's been digitally copied, then I guess it's simple a typing error on the part of the person that entered the text for the newsletter. I should know cause I was at ADAMcon 01 in Orlando, FL - 1988!

On a different note, I have been working with Joe Blenkle to organize as complete a collection of ColecoVision & ADAM software to be used with emulators or transferred back to ADAM media to be used on the real thing. Check out  Joe's website for a listing with pictures. Also, Steve Pitman (the author of many great ADAM games like ADAM Bomb 2 and of course Virtual ADAM for Windows) is working on scanning a lot of the user's group newsletters into PDF files. Contact Joe for info on how to get access to all this stuff we've been compiling, he's on the list.

Jim Notini






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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:01:22 +0000 (GMT)
From: Daniel Bienvenu <newcoleco at yahoo.fr>
Subject: [Coladam] Re :   A look at NIAD Newsletter
To: coladam at adamcon.org, Jim Notini <jnoti2 at comcast.net>
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Nice to meet you Jim Notini, I guess I should also apologize.

Well, I guess I should reveal now that I did a mistake by purpose concerning the ADAMCon number. I did wanted to know if people will actually read these long messages I'm writing or not and notice the big mistake I've put there to get a reaction. Sorry if it bothers some people, it wasn't my intention.

I did discover the printed NIAD newsletters because of a huge box of ADAM items I've got from someone named Thomas Mackie (Canada) who did subscribed to the NIAD newsletters. I don't have all the issues of course, but I do have some of them and the first thing I did notice is the bible quotes on every issues so it was hard to not talk about it.

I hope you're not offended by my messages here related to NIAD, I did also quotes yourself in my last one so I knew that you worked for NIAD but I didn't expected to get a reaction from you here.

Yes, Joe Benkle does have great Coleco treasures. He did helped me to find a few games I was looking for in disk format, but there still one I'm pretty sure exists but can't find anywhere. Anyway, thanks for your reply and I apologize for the misconception I did have regarding NIAD and particulary NIAD newsletters.

Daniel


     



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