[Coladam] A difficult and simple question for adamites
Herman L Mason Jr
hlm001 at ameritech.net
Fri Nov 19 15:54:02 CET 2010
Yes, as Ron said, the Adam surely had its problems, however, I too have fond
memories. After much trial and error, I was able to run one of ADAMs best
bbs systems, the Trading Post. As I recall, I had 150 plus callers, that
spent their long distance money to call on a semi regular basis, just to
chat and shoot the breeze on where to buy what, and how to get around
certain bugs. Sure I had a HUGE 256 memory expander, and I think about 4
320K disk drives looped together. Even had up and downloads of PD software,
where I too met some of my best friends. Before the internet, pc cams, and
such, where you knew your callers by their style of posting, and the time of
day they called. And if ya really liked them we could "call them into chat"
and chat one on one. That lasted for maybe about 10 yrs until the internet
or WWW World Wide Web changed things. We had T-Dos (CP/M) based bbs' and
choice the EOS (Dos) based systems. I contribute a lot of the earlier
success of the "Cons" to these bbs' because that is how we got the word out,
and got new users. And mind you, this began with a BLAZING 300 baud modem,
(like watching paint dry) then we went to 1200, and 2400 baud. Then came
9600, and 14.4 but the T-Dos based systems faired better, for the EOS
systems dropped charactors at the higher speeds, but boy was it fun, to hear
that familiar ring when somebody called you. Then came ADAMLink V with Rich
D's help we were able to connect to other systems ie, CI$, and the Freenet,
which was gracious enough to give us a SIG, or users area. SO in short was
it worth it, hell yes, Not to mention all of the emulator software that has
been done, where even with the "DOS BOX" the ADAM STILL LIVES.
Good Friends are FOREVER... And Thats a Long, LONG, Time. So, PLEASE Stay
H Mason Jr
From: coladam-bounces at adamcon.org [mailto:coladam-bounces at adamcon.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:41 PM
To: Daniel Bienvenu
Cc: coladam at adamcon.org
Subject: Re: [Coladam] A difficult and simple question for adamites
My perspective on this.
"Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door."
"T'aint necessarily so."
The whole thing started at Christmas 1983. My son got a Christmas
Colecovision from Grandad. When that arrived, we knew that there would
be an upgrade available that would turn it into a home computer.
About October or November of 1984, we began hunting. Dad's instruction
to me was to go and find out what home computer we wanted, get a price
and get back him.
At the time, there seemed to be at least three choices. The Apple II,
the Commodore 64, and the Coleco Adam. Given that we already had the
Colecovision, the Adam seemed to be a logical choice. Both the C64 and
the Apple, similarly equipped were going at about twice the price
($1500. versus $700.) Then we began to hear from various sales people
about the flaws of the Adam. One salesman told me that his store had
sole 12 Adams. 11 of them had been returned. I won't belabor that
history because it's fairly common knowledge.
In late November of that year, a local Ottawa hardware chain ran an ad
in the Ottawa Citizen advertising the ADAM $389. They claimed it was
the latest revision. We bought. That was then, this is now.
In the interim, I must have read just about every criticism leveled at
the ADAM, and at Coleco business methods. A few statements stuck in
mind (roughly paraphrased):
1) At the time Coleco produced the ADAM, they were unprepared for such
an entry into the consumer electronics world of home computers. They
were under capitalized and not prepared to deal with the bumps and
scrapes that other larger companies managed to weather out. At that
time, as I understand it, all new computers suffered bugs, problems,
and recalls to one degree or another. Larger companies with deeper
pockets managed to weather the storms, honour the warranties, and
learn from their mistakes. Coleco, then a very large and successful
company, did not survive the onslaught of a white hot competitive
market, and the super-heated expectations of new users.
2) Some us us, prone to support conspiracy theories, heard and
believed that Coleco - a toy company - had created a home computer so
advanced and out-in-front for its time, that bigger interests (IBM -
Microsoft- Hewlett Packard ??) got a little paranoid and decided to
muscle Coleco out of the market. Adam, good as it was, had no chance.
3) To some extent, Coleco's own business methods killed the ADAM. They
wanted complete control over the machine, software hardware and all.
Developers were therefore had little access to the information they
needed to develop professional level software for the ADAM. The result
was that there was little software available when ADAM hit the market.
4) At the time ADAM came to market, the computer industry was anything
but settled. Everything from hardware to operating systems and
accessories had been under development for some time, but had not
achieved the degree of consumer acceptance that began somewhere in the
early to mid 80's. In my office then there was one IBM XT for use by
16 people. That unit set our budget back about $3000. After 1985 that
changed, and changed so quickly that manufacturers without deep
pockets just couldn't keep up. The adage, "build a better mousetrap
and the world will beat a path to your door," didn't hold.
In the mid to late 80's everyone was a programmer. We had a lot of
fun, and ADAM was a part of all that. We felt that we were on the
leading edge of something. The 75 members of the ADAM User Friendly
Group in Ottawa circa 1986 were about as dedicated a bunch of computer
users as I've ever met anywhere (before or since). We all read the
criticism of ADAM at the time, and we all were like, "Nah! They don't
know what they're talking about."
Hence Daniel's question.
ADAM was my first computer, and my son's first computer. For both of
us it was an entry into a world that was completely new. For both of
us there were the challenges of making it work. There were the
challenges of programming, the challenges of hardware maintenance, and
the newsletters whose authors were always on the same page - hopefully
a little further ahead, but not much.
Then we met our fellow ADAMites in Ottawa and in the wider world. They
had their arguments, their debates, but through ADAM I've met as fine
a group of people as I could ever hope to meet. That to me, is a huge
part of what keeps us together.
The computer world passed us by too quickly. Users who joined us later
when there was Windows, graphics, MP3's, processor speed and tons of
memory, would have absolutely no idea the feelings of excitement that
Guy Cousineau conveyed to us when he managed to save 33 bytes of code
in one of his programs. When Dr. Richard Drushel found ways of
enhancing SmartBASIC that essentially utilized existing space more
efficiently, an good number of us failed to grasp what he had
accomplished. All you have to do is read the foreword in his docs to
SmartBASIC 1.x, and you can feel the satisfaction he got from owning
So for the rest of us, what's the attraction? I have a suspicion that
this topic is a that university students will write papers on, if they
haven't done so already. I don't think anybody really understands why
we still meet every year. I don't think anyone has the slightest idea
why we take great pleasure in "messing with " a computer that was
technologically outdated almost before it hit the market. But then
some of us still think the 1957 Chevy was the sexiest car ever
produced, and that the DC3 remains the world's greatest aircraft. Let
the newer and faster equipment do its thing - I enjoy that too....
Like the Chevy and the DC3, the ADAM generates memories for us that
nothing new will ever replace. And that's why we hang onto it with a
And at the time ADAM came out, it was a MUCH better mousetrap.
On 17-Nov-10, at 1:46 PM, Daniel Bienvenu wrote:
> Question : In your words, elaborate why do you think that Coleco
> ADAM is a good computer despite the bad reputation it seems to have?
> It appears that one of the most hated vintage computers (that I'm
> aware of) is unfortunately the Coleco Adam. At the opposite,
> Commodore 64 is one of the most beloved vintage computers.
> My personal experience with the Coleco ADAM isn't enough to tell why
> adamites do annual meetings around this home computer... except that
> at one time they were ADAM users, while many people consider this
> computer to be the direct cause of Coleco Industries bankruptcy.
> I will probably get a respond like "SmartLOGO is the best LOGO
> program and a good example of why Coleco ADAM is a good computer",
> but I need more than that, something more elaborate.
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