[Coladam] ADAM Assembly Programming

geoffrey oltmans oltmansg at bellsouth.net
Thu Feb 23 19:26:32 CET 2012

That's a good point. Just because we don't think there is any fiduciary interest 
remaining in a lot of this old stuff some copyright holders might disagree.

That said, probably in the case of ADAM stuff (particularly documentation) 
that's probably not the case, but then there are probably legit bought and paid 
for copies of some of this stuff in the hands of what few remaining ADAM product 
distributors still exist.

Personally I'd prefer if all of the copyrighted stuff (and PD) stuff was freely 
available for anyone to download. Before CompuServe shut down their ADAM BB down 
for good I snagged all of the software in their ADAM archive. To my knowledge I 
don't think those files exist anywhere online for download.

From: Ron Mitchell <rm2892 at gmail.com>
To: SacNews <jblenkle at sacnews.net>
Cc: coladam at adamcon.org
Sent: Thu, February 23, 2012 12:04:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Coladam] ADAM Assembly Programming

I'm with you on this one Joe, but I think it's important to do our "due 
diligence" in each case where we think it appropriate.


Last night I was looking for a registered copy of 22DISK, software which is 
capable of reading and writing many different formats of CP/M disks - including 

The unregistered version is available for download all over the place. But the 
list of CP/M disk definitions provided with the package contains only one Coleco 
ADAM format, the original 360K disks. I once had a registered copy of 22DISK. 
Lord knows where it is now, but I know for sure it had several more ADAM CP/M 
formats, including the 1.44 Meg high density format. There were, as I recall at 
least 4 more ADAM CP/M formats. So I went looking int the DISKS.DEF file in my 
package, and sure enough they are there. But with the unregistered version of 
22DISK, only one choice shows up,  COL1.

Reading a little further, I discovered an interesting article about all this. 
Seems like 22DISK, or at least the registered version, is NOT public domain. 
Check out the link …. it's a rather interesting story. 


And we are likely to run across more like it. 

However, as they say, sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than to ask 
for permission.


On 2012-02-23, at 8:22 AM, SacNews - Joe Blenkle wrote:

> I'm sorry, but this is exactly why a lot of ADAM information will be lost to 
> the ages...
> technically you're right...but realistically??? After almost 30 years, the 
> Hinkle's probably don't even have copies of these items themselves...does 
> anyone even know where they are? Are they even still alive? Do they even 
> still have a remote interest in the ADAM?
> Maybe I should remove all the newsletters from my ADAM web page. With the 
> exception of the HTML'd Expandable Computer News, of which I got permission 
> of Darrell Sage's widow to reprint them (out of respect, not out of fear of 
> getting sued...she sent me Xmas cards for years after his death)...I did not 
> get permission from the original owners to scan or post any of the 
> newsletters there.
> Again...technically you are right...but it reaches a point where it becomes 
> just plain silly...
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Geoff Oltmans" <oltmansg at bellsouth.net>
> To: <drushel at apk.net>
> Cc: <coladam at adamcon.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Coladam] ADAM Assembly Programming
>> Rich... absolutely it would be vital to get approval from the copyright 
>> owners.
>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Rich Drushel wrote:
>>>    However, AFAIK both the "Hackers Guide" books are still in copyright,
>>> and it would at least be nice to have the tacit approval of the authors 
>>> to
>>> make these works available in PDF format.  Moreover, there are various
>>> errors in the information which I found over the years, which ideally 
>>> should
>>> be corrected.
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