[Coladam] ADAM Assembly Programming

geoffrey oltmans oltmansg at bellsouth.net
Thu Feb 23 20:33:07 CET 2012


I'll send you a copy of the CI$ archives I have when I get home tonight. Maybe 
you've got some of it already, and maybe you don't, but if you've got the desire 
and wherewithall to post it for general consumption, I'm all for it. 
Unfortunately, I don't have an index of what each archived file contains. :(





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From: SacNews - Joe Blenkle <jblenkle at sacnews.net>
To: geoffrey oltmans <oltmansg at bellsouth.net>; Ron Mitchell <rm2892 at gmail.com>
Cc: coladam at adamcon.org
Sent: Thu, February 23, 2012 1:18:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Coladam] ADAM Assembly Programming

  
Again, I will host any software on my webpage in  the downloads section if 
anyone cares to send it to me. 

 
I will stay clear of commercial programs and games  that in rare instances are 
still for sale...because I know there are some out  there who still sell it. 

 
But the more stuff that can be archived and  available to real ADAM owners or 
emulator users, the better...
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: geoffrey    oltmans 
>To: Ron Mitchell ; SacNews 
>Cc: coladam at adamcon.org 
>Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:26    AM
>Subject: Re: [Coladam] ADAM Assembly    Programming
>
>
>That's a good point. Just because we don't think there is any fiduciary    
>interest remaining in a lot of this old stuff some copyright holders might    
>disagree.
>
>
>That said, probably in the case of ADAM stuff (particularly    documentation) 
>that's probably not the case, but then there are probably legit    bought and 
>paid for copies of some of this stuff in the hands of what few    remaining ADAM 
>product distributors still exist.
>
>
>Personally I'd prefer if all of the copyrighted stuff (and PD) stuff was    
>freely available for anyone to download. Before CompuServe shut down their    
>ADAM BB down for good I snagged all of the software in their ADAM archive. To    
>my knowledge I don't think those files exist anywhere online for    download.
>
>
>
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 From: Ron Mitchell    <rm2892 at gmail.com>
>To: SacNews <jblenkle at sacnews.net>
>Cc: coladam at adamcon.org
>Sent: Thu, February 23, 2012 12:04:55    PM
>Subject: Re: [Coladam]    ADAM Assembly Programming
>
>I'm with you on this one Joe, but I    think it's important to do our "due 
>diligence" in each case where we think it    appropriate.
>
>Example:
>
>Last night I was looking for a registered    copy of 22DISK, software which is 
>capable of reading and writing many    different formats of CP/M disks - 
>including ADAM's.
>
>The unregistered    version is available for download all over the place. But 
>the list of CP/M    disk definitions provided with the package contains only one 
>Coleco ADAM    format, the original 360K disks. I once had a registered copy of 
>22DISK. Lord    knows where it is now, but I know for sure it had several more 
>ADAM CP/M    formats, including the 1.44 Meg high density format. There were, as 
>I recall    at least 4 more ADAM CP/M formats. So I went looking int the 
>DISKS.DEF file in    my package, and sure enough they are there. But with the 
>unregistered version    of 22DISK, only one choice shows up,  COL1.
>
>Reading a little    further, I discovered an interesting article about all this. 
>Seems like    22DISK, or at least the registered version, is NOT public domain. 
>Check out    the link …. it's a rather interesting story. 
>
>
>http://www.retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/sydex.html
>
>And    we are likely to run across more like it. 
>
>However, as they say,    sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than to 
>ask for    permission.
>
>Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>On 2012-02-23, at 8:22 AM,    SacNews - Joe Blenkle wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry, but this is exactly why a    lot of ADAM information will be lost to 
>>
>> the ages...
>> 
>>    technically you're right...but realistically??? After almost 30 years, the 

>> Hinkle's probably don't even have copies of these items    themselves...does 
>> anyone even know where they are? Are they even    still alive? Do they even 
>> still have a remote interest in the    ADAM?
>> 
>> Maybe I should remove all the newsletters from my ADAM    web page. With the 
>> exception of the HTML'd Expandable Computer News,    of which I got permission 
>
>> of Darrell Sage's widow to reprint them    (out of respect, not out of fear of 
>
>> getting sued...she sent me Xmas    cards for years after his death)...I did not 
>>
>> get permission from the    original owners to scan or post any of the 
>> newsletters there.
>> 
>> Again...technically you are right...but it reaches a point where it    becomes 
>
>> just plain silly...
>> 
>> ----- Original Message    ----- 
>> From: "Geoff Oltmans" <oltmansg at bellsouth.net>
>>    To: <drushel at apk.net>
>> Cc: <coladam at adamcon.org>
>> Sent:    Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Coladam] ADAM    Assembly Programming
>> 
>> 
>>> Rich... absolutely it would    be vital to get approval from the copyright 
>>> owners.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Rich Drushel wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    However, AFAIK both the    "Hackers Guide" books are still in copyright,
>>>> and it would at    least be nice to have the tacit approval of the authors 
>>>>    to
>>>> make these works available in PDF format.  Moreover,    there are various
>>>> errors in the information which I found over    the years, which ideally 
>>>> should
>>>> be    corrected.
>>> 
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