[Coladam] ADAM Assembly Programming
jnoti2 at comcast.net
Fri Feb 24 05:17:53 CET 2012
Actually, I would venture a guess that at least 95%, if not more, of the
ADAM warez (hardware, software, books, manuals, newsletters, etc.) produced
by 3rd Parties/Homebrewers are not legitimately copyrighted. So the issue is
actaully one of a moral question rather than legal.
I say stir the pot, make things available in the hopes of stirring up
interest from the growing number of reto-computerists who are hungering for
such things. It could end up serving a greater purpose and swell the ranks
as well as bring in more new blood to the ADAMcons. You'll never know unless
----- Original Message -----
From: "geoffrey oltmans" <oltmansg at bellsouth.net>
To: "Ron Mitchell" <rm2892 at gmail.com>; "SacNews" <jblenkle at sacnews.net>
Cc: <coladam at adamcon.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Coladam] ADAM Assembly Programming
> That's a good point. Just because we don't think there is any fiduciary
> remaining in a lot of this old stuff some copyright holders might
> That said, probably in the case of ADAM stuff (particularly documentation)
> that's probably not the case, but then there are probably legit bought and
> for copies of some of this stuff in the hands of what few remaining ADAM
> distributors still exist.
> Personally I'd prefer if all of the copyrighted stuff (and PD) stuff was
> available for anyone to download. Before CompuServe shut down their ADAM
> BB down
> for good I snagged all of the software in their ADAM archive. To my
> knowledge I
> don't think those files exist anywhere online for download.
> From: Ron Mitchell <rm2892 at gmail.com>
> To: SacNews <jblenkle at sacnews.net>
> Cc: coladam at adamcon.org
> Sent: Thu, February 23, 2012 12:04:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Coladam] ADAM Assembly Programming
> I'm with you on this one Joe, but I think it's important to do our "due
> diligence" in each case where we think it appropriate.
> Last night I was looking for a registered copy of 22DISK, software which
> capable of reading and writing many different formats of CP/M disks -
> The unregistered version is available for download all over the place. But
> list of CP/M disk definitions provided with the package contains only one
> ADAM format, the original 360K disks. I once had a registered copy of
> Lord knows where it is now, but I know for sure it had several more ADAM
> formats, including the 1.44 Meg high density format. There were, as I
> recall at
> least 4 more ADAM CP/M formats. So I went looking int the DISKS.DEF file
> in my
> package, and sure enough they are there. But with the unregistered version
> 22DISK, only one choice shows up, COL1.
> Reading a little further, I discovered an interesting article about all
> Seems like 22DISK, or at least the registered version, is NOT public
> Check out the link …. it's a rather interesting story.
> And we are likely to run across more like it.
> However, as they say, sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than to
> for permission.
> On 2012-02-23, at 8:22 AM, SacNews - Joe Blenkle wrote:
>> I'm sorry, but this is exactly why a lot of ADAM information will be lost
>> the ages...
>> technically you're right...but realistically??? After almost 30 years,
>> Hinkle's probably don't even have copies of these items themselves...does
>> anyone even know where they are? Are they even still alive? Do they even
>> still have a remote interest in the ADAM?
>> Maybe I should remove all the newsletters from my ADAM web page. With the
>> exception of the HTML'd Expandable Computer News, of which I got
>> of Darrell Sage's widow to reprint them (out of respect, not out of fear
>> getting sued...she sent me Xmas cards for years after his death)...I did
>> get permission from the original owners to scan or post any of the
>> newsletters there.
>> Again...technically you are right...but it reaches a point where it
>> just plain silly...
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Geoff Oltmans" <oltmansg at bellsouth.net>
>> To: <drushel at apk.net>
>> Cc: <coladam at adamcon.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Coladam] ADAM Assembly Programming
>>> Rich... absolutely it would be vital to get approval from the copyright
>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Rich Drushel wrote:
>>>> However, AFAIK both the "Hackers Guide" books are still in
>>>> and it would at least be nice to have the tacit approval of the authors
>>>> make these works available in PDF format. Moreover, there are various
>>>> errors in the information which I found over the years, which ideally
>>>> be corrected.
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