[Coladam] More Colecovision II comments and suggestions
Joe Blenkle - Comcast
jblenkle at comcast.net
Thu Oct 25 22:55:46 CEST 2012
I do not understand your reasoning. When ColecoVision was originally
released it was state-of-the-art cutting edge video game technology. It had
millions of dollars behind it, along with TV and magazine ads. Now we have
Smart Phones that are capable of running more advanced games than
With the Smart Phones, PCs, Xbox 360s, Sony PlayStations, Nintendo Wii - who
would honestly buy a CV2 over a more advanced...and possibly less expensive
machine? As a CV fan, I would want one, but only to guard against the
electronic failure of my 30-year-old hardware which will probably come
sooner rather than later. If I'm a gamer, I would bypass the 30-year-old
technology in favor of a new machine.
If there are 10,000 potential buyers out there based on your figures, why
has Opcode's SGM barely topped 200 orders? Surely more of these 10,000
buyers would want the SGM...not just 200. Likewise, why do the fantastic
homebrew cartridges barely sell out a run of 100 games?
Don't get me wrong...200+ SGMs is fantastic for what we are dealing with
here...as are 100 homebrew cartridges...but 10,000? Without millions of
dollars in marketing, advertising and production expenses, it just won't
I think you are taking a "Build it and they will buy" attitude...but unless
you are willing to be stuck with 9,800 CV2 consoles in your back bedroom
anyone tackling this project and producing that many...or even a run of
500...would be taking a huge financial risk.
I know Eduardo has millions in his Cayman Islands and Swiss bank accounts,
but even he seems to be balking at the numbers of units you are tossing
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Subject: [Coladam] More Colecovision II comments and suggestions
The Colecovision first came out in 1982 and then was discontinued by October
1985. Total amount of Colecovisions sold is estimated to be over 2 million
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In 1986 a lower quality Colecovision clone called the Telegames Personal
Arcade was sold. The problem with the Telegames Personal Arcade is that it
was not compatible with some Colecovision cartridge games and it lacked the
expansion module slot. It is estimated that several thousands of consules
were sold but that has not been verified.
Its been 30 years since the Colecovision first came out in 1982. Out of 2
million Colecovisions sold perhaps only 1% are still being used. If 1% of
people are still using their Colecovision then that would mean there are
currently 20,000 active users of the Colecovison console with perhaps many
more using a PC Colecovision emulator (how many thousands of Colecovision
emulators have been downloaded?).
So I believe that if a Colecovision II existed within the next
2-3 years that a minimum of 10,000 consules could be sold if it did
everything the old Colecovision did (including the front expansion slot) and
offered a HDMI output with standard composite video output. A small company
could start off by running off 500 Colecovsion II’s at a time and then once
those are sold then another 500 could be made. Until one day perhaps 10,000
are sold after a few years.
Maybe no one is interested in making that many Colelecovision II’s and would
only want a limited run of 200. The problem with a limited run of 200 is
that it would not meet the demand.
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