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changed username to Daniel B rich-c: bonjour, Daniel Daniel B: bonjour! rich-c: comment ca va? Daniel B: ca va! et toi? rich-c: un peu meilleur, aujord'hui rich-c: le medicine m.a donne le jour por (chirurgy?) Daniel B: your hip surgery rich-c: you have it - Nov. 3 Daniel B: yes, i received this info by e-mail rich-c: three or four weeks I won't wasnt to remember then pain free and active within six months rich-c: ah, didn't recall - life has been busy here Daniel B: six months? you will suffer during all winter time? rich-c: no, full healing will take six months, but the nasty part is only about 3 weeks rich-c: just that I shouldn't enter any marathons before next June ;-) Daniel B: ok, after nov 3, you will recover to be in a really good shape for the next adamcon meeting rich-c: my back-fence neighbour actually was driving his car after three weeks - but admitted the doctor would kill him if he knew! rich-c: if things go serious well I will harbour some hopes of driving there rich-c: it will depend on the dates - there can be serious issues with the heat Daniel B: in the e-mail, i read that there is another coleco programmer named Perry? rich-c: yes, he turned up on the chat Wednesday night - that's right, that's why I e-mailed you, I'd forgotten Daniel B: he told you that he is from Winnipeg? rich-c: anyway he is in Winnipeg and says he is deep into Coleco games and wants to program some rich-c: apparently he never had any contact with the Adam group there even though it was active until at worst very recently Daniel B: Did he "add" his e-mail to the adamcon mailling list? rich-c: Dr.D. was on and I think did add him on the spot - Dr.D. has administartor privileges on the mailing list Daniel B: "deep into" coleco games... what do you think this means? rich-c: sort of gather he knew enough about c programming and game construction to ask teh right questions of Dr.D and james rich-c: you have to remember there is a fair bit goes on out of sight, in email exchanges Daniel B: "c programming"? Daniel B: that means... rich-c: he seemed to be asking about doing game programming in c Daniel B: he probably saw things I have done in coleco programming in C rich-c: not sure - he has searched teh web, because he was complaining about how many links wre now dead rich-c: on the other hand your name did not seem to mean anything to him Daniel B: many links are now dead? it's the same problem each new year rich-c: yes, I don't know how many urls have been discontinued but there are a lot rich-c: now you go to a regular trusted site and suddenly they're dumping porn on you Daniel B: my name me not sounds familiar to him... but he probably know me indirectly: my games, my tools, my coleco doc? rich-c: the original owners had abandoned teh name and some pornographer bought it to get the traffic rich-c: hard to tell, Daniel - but if he made the connection I think he would have reacted more strongly Daniel B: Well, knowing that there is a new coleco programmer... is great! :) rich-c: yes, it will certainly be neat if we get a thriving community built up Daniel B: ... and I suppose Dale W was not online, still very busy Daniel B: I missed some "chat session" rich-c: quite, Dale tends to be a relatively infrequent visitor, unfortunately rich-c: at the moment he is deep into building teh Future Shop photo srvice website rich-c: he also has another major website project on teh go Daniel B: I wanted to ask him if he intends to update the adamcon web site to finish the adamcon15 section. rich-c: you can always send him an email - though that doesn't always work too well rich-c: these days, getting you email through teh spam isn't easy, especially if the filter doesnt know you Daniel B: I will try to answer an e-mail he sent to me in the past. rich-c: I've had messages from Ron and Dr. D. blocked recently when they used a different ISP from the one on my records rich-c: when I logged on today there were 81 spams in my mailbox - and I get relatively few Daniel B: For me, the spam problem is mainly blocked by Yahoo mailling service. In fact, the spam is simply added into a special "mailbox" and I can consult the messages in the "spam mailbox" just in case an important message is in there. rich-c: I use a freebie filtering program called Mailwasher - not ideal but gives me a bit more control rich-c: I have heard complaints that the ISP mail filters tend to block messages that arent spam Daniel B: Having mostly friends who speak french, I can detect quick if it's really my friend or a spam. :) rich-c: as a matter of curiosity, is French-language spam as much of a problem as English? Daniel B: 95% of spam is in english, 2% is in french 3% is in another language like spannish, japanese or russian. Daniel B: and my friends are 80% french people Daniel B: and 90% of them are male... not female rich-c: I have never encountered any spam in any language other than English, but was curious rich-c: I have a lot of spam from teh days before I knew about spyware and used Netscape and Notmail rich-c: but I have a couple of relatively new webmail accounts and there has been no spam on either yet Daniel B: i have now approx 5 new spam per day
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changed username to George Daniel B: hi George rich-c: hello George George: Hi Daniel, Rich rich-c: any idea, Daniel, how the new spammers got your email address? Daniel B: I think it's simply Yahoo who did this for money because my account is a free account Daniel B: Rich told me that there is a new coleco programmer in the adamcon chat, did you talk to him? Daniel B: (my question is for George, of course) rich-c: he mans Perry, George, but you were pretty quiet last time George: no I haven't been on in a while rich-c: actually, we're going to have to quietly tell Erin and Marie that they're welcome but the chat isn't ICQ rich-c: or for that matter any other form of instant messaging rich-c: you have quite a number of email accounts though, Daniel rich-c: if you need a freebie drop-box you might try canoe.ca (it's part of Quebecor) rich-c: they seem to have a decent privacy policy George: I was but in a nursing home after my last hospial stay for rehab. i had no direct phone access Daniel B: I have one e-mail accont per web site... but I abandoned some of my old web site. rich-c: I only use the web space with my ISP for ftp, posting stuff to link to Daniel B: My old mail emails are full of spam but I never use them. rich-c: no, once your email address gets picked up by the spammers, you're in for a deluge rich-c: now when I give my address to someone for the first time, it's to a webmail ISP (though not necessarily obviosly so) rich-c: if I don't get any spam for a month, I figure the operator is trustworthy rich-c: by the way, if you ever deal with websites that demand your address to issue a password to get on (Logitech and I think Seagate do this) George: i have two accounts that started getting spam and suddenly stopped rich-c: then take a look at mailinator.com - gives you a two-hour only mailbox rich-c: spam never stops, George Daniel B: But spam is not a real problem for my "yahoo" account... but the e-mails I received because the computer of many guys are infected. George: these two accounts are active and haven't had any spam since august rich-c: that I don't believe, George - if there wre a way to arrange that, everyone would know it instantly George: i had to send myself email to make sure they were active rich-c: yes, with the worms, viruses and trojans around now, there's a flood of "friendly" emails that aren't rich-c: some of them are dangerously clever, like those that spoof Microsoft sites very plausibly George: now my emails are the only ones left rich-c: there is also a wave of fraud artists trolling for information for identity theft George: don't say that, i made a purchase from shop.microsoft.com rich-c: I have sent a couple of samples to Phonebusters so they know what's going on Daniel B: yes, but like i said "most of my friends" are ... french people. So, when my friends send me an e-mail with an english subject... I know that there is a virus problem somewhere. rich-c: well, Geroge, if you get a message about an undeliverable message from microsoft, details in attachment rich-c: DO NOPT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT George: i never do rich-c: and if "microsoft" send you a new security patch update rich-c: DO NOT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT Daniel B: don't worry for me. I'm not only a programmer. George: i only use the update site rich-c: even some fairly hot techies have been caught on the update trick, because MS does automatically notify them of patches rich-c: yes, but what if you get a message from eBay wanting you to verify your account security information? Daniel B: I have to go now... I hope I will meet you again soon. and finnaly meet Perry wednesday night. bye! George: i don't use ebay Daniel B: i don'T use ebay too rich-c: bye Daniel, see you W3ednesday Daniel B: *poof*
Daniel B left chat session rich-c: I use it very little, just infrequently enough that a request for an update could be plausible rich-c: but having a nasty, suspicious mind I sent the thing to eBay and asked it was real rich-c: it wasn't George: good thinking rich-c: but don't be surprised if there is a huge disruption in the U.S. economy about six months from now George: i always ask questions rich-c: because enough people will fall for these identity theft traicks to allow billions in fraud George: and get direct phone numbers rich-c: oh, telephone pests never get anywhre with me rich-c: in Canada we have a do not call registry and federal legislation to let you tell pestss not to call again rich-c: then at the prime hours I refuse to answer the phone - all my buddies know not to phone then George: no, i only get direct phone numbers of companies i deal with rich-c: so any pest ends up talking to the answering machine - which ends that rich-c: if I deal with a company I already have their phone number George: and i call them they don't call me rich-c: exactly George: my name is also on the do not call list rich-c: yes, but that is still under challenge in the courts, I believe George: it works rich-c: it's only been there for a day or two, no way to tell if it works yet rich-c: once the court clears it, it will take about three months to become effective George: pennsylvania has had one for two years rich-c: yes, that would deal with the local pests, then - unless the courts knock down the federal law George: the national one that just started sprang up from other states that enacted them much earlier rich-c: generally if pests do get through I figure if I can't reduce them to tears I'm not being nasty enough rich-c: yes, but if the federal law is disallowed then the same decision will kill off the sate laws George: all quiet so far rich-c: well, hope for the best, then rich-c: but I have a number of chores to do before dinner rich-c: so I am going to have to pull the plug now George: ok,, rich-c: see you next week, then George: bye for now George: yes rich-c: bye now\
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