rich-c: hello Harvie, you're early Harvie Powis: Hello rich, yes remembered just now that it was Wed. rich-c: here I was thinking I'd have time for a game of Free Cell before anyone showed up Harvie Powis: Go ahead :) rich-c: well, keep attending regularly and you'll soon get in the habit rich-c: actually I only do that when things get impossibly dull rich-c: I can set it up on the screen so I can still watch as the posts are made Harvie Powis: I don't run on fixed schedules so I rarely care what day it is rich-c: well, I could say the same, but I'm retired - what's your excuse? ;-) Harvie Powis: I'm lazy:) rich-c: aha! that'll do it every time! 8-) rich-c: but Wednesday is our shopping day so it reminds me of the other things - like putting out the garbage, and chat Harvie Powis: I've got the game in a small window on the screen rich-c: oh, you're playing it too? Harvie Powis: No, the hockey game rich-c: I leave it near full size but move it to bottom right so new postings show
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: OK, who's leading at the moment?
changed username to George W. rich-c: hello George Harvie Powis: Toronto 3 - 1 George W.: Hi Everyone rich-c: terrific - they gotta win this one and break George's heaert ;-) Harvie Powis: Hello George
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: just updating on the hockey game, George - your guys are behind 3-1
changed username to BobS rich-c: allo Roberto Harvie Powis: Do I know George ? BobS: go day mates George W.: philly born losers Harvie Powis: Howdee Bob rich-c: George Wahl? he's an Adam user in Philadelphia Harvie Powis: I wondered, I was thinking of George K rich-c: George, have you ever been on when Harvie was on before? you're both a bit irregular George W.: Hi Bob George W.: not sure BobS: allo all rich-c: anyway, Harvie was one of our stalwarts at the Metro Toronto Adam Group George W.: oh, an oldie rich-c: yes, a real veteran of the Adam wars ;-) BobS: si senor
moved to room Meeting Place BobS: way way back BobS: hey Rich.......did you get the cold yuck we had yesterday?????
changed username to Pam / Erin
moved to room Meeting Place BobS: 78 farenheut toady rich-c: well, we had a wind off the lake today and it was NO JOY, I tell ya! BobS: PAMerina !!!!!!! rich-c: hi, daughter and Rin
changed username to Ricky-Roo Pam / Erin: ROTFL BobS: am sending you some warmth for tomoorow OK ????? George W.: Hi Pam/Rin Harvie Powis: Hi Doc Pam / Erin: Hello, everyone George W.: hi Roo rich-c: we're getting 25C forecast for tomorrow - that's 77F BobS: see ???? promised it to ya George W.: we got 65c Ricky-Roo: Moo. Harvie Powis: I think it was 10C today George W.: 65f. Pam / Erin: <E> Polka Roo, Polka Roo! Ricky-Roo: Sorry I am late. rich-c: George, if you got 65C, you wouldn't be talking to us, you'd be dead Ricky-Roo: Haha George W.: i mean 65f. BobS: ya right......excuses excuses
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changed username to james Ricky-Roo: I was doing official business. rich-c: good morning, james BobS: hi james....and D james: good evening Harvie Powis: Hello James james: how is everyone? rich-c: sorry, George W.: Hi James Pam / Erin: Hi, James (007 music plays in the background) rich-c: Rich, almost forgot to say hello to you Ricky-Roo: Hi Richard. rich-c: all these guys have me working my typing fingr to the bone BobS: Bond ?????? JAMES Bond?????? Harvie Powis: How's the hobbling Doc ? Ricky-Roo: 10-fingered touch-typing is your friend :-) Ricky-Roo: I am better, no crutches since Monday. james: heh heh George W.: Hush! R. Welch is on Larry King Pam / Erin: Yah Pam / Erin: yay, I mean BobS: still calling you a crip are they ?????? Ricky-Roo: Only a little. rich-c: how many canes, Rich? james: lol. Ricky-Roo: My gait is improving. Ricky-Roo: No canes so far. BobS: NO crutches !!!!!!! and we were felling sorry for ya Ricky-Roo: I took my crutches to my office in case I needed them. james: sheesh. that's the last time i waste my sympaty :P rich-c: as in, anyone else would be crawling around after three steps Pam / Erin: How's Judy, Bob? Ricky-Roo: I suppose I could try running and re-injure it really good for you, James. Ricky-Roo: Might even pull the Achilles tendon, then I could have some fun surgery... George W.: she's in her 60's and impoving Ricky-Roo: I think I will pass :-) rich-c: any timeline on when it should be decently healed, Rich? Ricky-Roo: About a month. james: the look of agony on your face would be worth it. james: a month.. that's not too bad Ricky-Roo: I can still feel it pull if I step just right. rich-c: james, you're all heart Ricky-Roo: There is still considerable swelling around the injury site. BobS: she's not bad finger sore at times and other times ok james: i try. that's my soft spot i show sometimes rich-c: biggest lump of granite this side of Mt. Fuji Ricky-Roo: You can see it when I pull up my socks: the left one goes up over my calf, the right one stops midway. james: must be swollen pretty bad Ricky-Roo: It's right around where the "meat" joins the tendon, but from the inside. rich-c: yes, my leg wasn't quite that bad even after my surgery Harvie Powis: You need Supp-Hose Ricky Ricky-Roo: I haven't updated my leg webpage yet, but I did take a photo of my leg on Monday. james: are you able to drive? rich-c: will Judy be in shape to join us tonight, Bob? Ricky-Roo: Actually a good suggestion, Harvie. Ricky-Roo: Yes, I drove on Sunday, and to work yesterday and today. Pam / Erin: there's a mental picture for you Ricky-Roo: So the Egg Hunt is on with me driving the U-Haul. james: that must help a lot Ricky-Roo: Yes. rich-c: can you really put on the pressure needed for emergency braking? Ricky-Roo: http://drushel.cwru.edu/rfd-leg/rfd-leg3.jpg BobS: maybe later Pam......she is at a church meeting tonight Ricky-Roo: Braking hasn't hurt me any. james: so is pam / erin pam or erin right now? Pam / Erin: we're becoming one Ricky-Roo: I imagine actually standing on the emergency brake proper might hurt. rich-c: it's Pam's computer so she will have priority Pam / Erin: however, Pam in control of the keyboard, Erin supplying the commentary james: for the love of.. Pam / Erin: you can tell by who's listed first : ) james: ok james: y'all mightn't be seein' me much in a few weeks Pam / Erin: where ya goin, James? BobS: why's not??????? rich-c: really? what are you up to now, james? james: baby is due may 26th Harvie Powis: 4-1 now, Philly has 3 men in the sin bin BobS: OK Pam / Erin: oh, right - had forgotten George W.: George W.: George W.: Pam / Erin: three??? rich-c: hey! superneat (both baby and score) james: so another year of chronic sleep deprivation is about to ensue Ricky-Roo: Breadcrumbs...so he can find his way home through the forest. rich-c: you're such a cynic, james - realistic, but a cynic :-) George W.: test james: heh heh. i don't mind. i've been conditioned by case Pam / Erin: one . . two . . . three james: we see ya, dubya rich-c: you're here, George George W.: damn keyboard rich-c: is it letting you down again? rich-c: btw George, did you get my email about AOL? George W.: who put too many keys in the way? George W.: ? Ricky-Roo: There is always Ctrl-Alt-Del... rich-c: guy by the name of Gates I think, George Ricky-Roo: Though ON/OFF might be easier. james: failing that, a 26oz hammer might do the trick Harvie Powis: Via Voice :) George W.: i don't think he invented the keyboard. He doesn't have the apptitude rich-c: Harvie, most of our computer fairs seem to be vanishing - any good secondhand computer shops still going? Pam / Erin: qwertyuiop Pam / Erin: just had to throw that in Ricky-Roo: etaionshrdlu Harvie Powis: He could invent the keyboard if someone else invented it first rich-c: when did you ever run a Linotype, Rich? George W.: what about TCF? Ricky-Roo: hehe Ricky-Roo: When did you, Richard? rich-c: ah, the dark secrets of my pst remain obscure... Ricky-Roo: Underground newspaper, no doubt. Harvie Powis: I find tor.forsale.computers the best source Ricky-Roo: Workers of Canada, Unite! George W.: trenton computer fair rich-c: I'll try - I need a 16-bit PCMCIA LAN card and all the new ones are 32-bit Pam / Erin: our Gen-Yer here wants to know what a linotype is Ricky-Roo: A typesetting machine. Ricky-Roo: You typed a line of text. rich-c: it's the machine newspapers used to set lead type for the presses Ricky-Roo: The machine would cast a metal slug containing the line in type. Ricky-Roo: Real-time. Harvie Powis: It's for printing Linoleum of course :) Ricky-Roo: haha james: nevermind the gen-yers, i hadn't even heard of a linotype Pam / Erin: <E> thank you Harvie Ricky-Roo: Probably none left working in the world. james: or maybe i'm just an ignert :P rich-c: it was an absolutely fascinating process to watcyh. especially when a line was hard to justify Ricky-Roo: It had a non-QWERTY keyboard. Ricky-Roo: Hence ETAINSHRDLU. Ricky-Roo: ETAIONSHRDLU. Ricky-Roo: missed the O Pam / Erin: top line? rich-c: if you see historic pictures of newspaper production, there will always be pictures of the Linotype machines Ricky-Roo: There was a famous C64 game called Shrdlu Ricky-Roo: Yes Pam, top line. Ricky-Roo: Dunno the other lines. Pam / Erin: so where did you use one, Dad? rich-c: notice the relationship of teh top left letters to the letter frequency table of English Ricky-Roo: Yep. rich-c: didn't use on myself, just did a lot of heavy looking on Pam / Erin: R,S,T,L,N,E Ricky-Roo: Never saw one in action :-( Ricky-Roo: U.N.C.L.E. rich-c: watched them when we went out to Oshawa to put the Varsity to bed, later in the Star when I wrote for them Pam / Erin: <E> E.R.I.N. Pam / Erin: where was the Varsity printed? Ricky-Roo: Exciting Redhead Is Natural? Pam / Erin: ROTFL rich-c: I think cousin Leila's husband Bill still had them at his paper when we visited rich-c: Oshawa, by teh Times-Gazette Ricky-Roo: I don't know how the student newspaper was typeset here when I was an undergrad. George W.: ah, dinner rich-c: couple of times a year we'd go out and watch it being done rich-c: then to class next day - 40 hours without sleep Ricky-Roo: I know that *something* printed out long columns that the page layout people physically cut up and pasted onto a full-sized mockup. Harvie Powis: Game is over 4-1 Leafs rich-c: well, those galleys could have been hot or cold type at that point Pam / Erin: are you nuts, Dad? Ricky-Roo: The columns looked like some kind of laser printout IIRC. Pam / Erin: we won? WOO HOO! Ricky-Roo: 40 hours without sleep is fun. rich-c: there was overlap for some time between hot led and photosetting Ricky-Roo: Nice hallucinations at the end. Pam / Erin: says the exper Pam / Erin: t George W.: boo George W.: hiss Pam / Erin: Go, Leafs Go! rich-c: wassamatter, George, did Philly score? George W.: geer Ricky-Roo: But they're just coming out on the trees now, Pam.... George W.: i dunno Pam / Erin: the Maple Leaf forever! rich-c: problem is, this series could go seven games, and Philly has home ice George W.: snicker Pam / Erin: hope springs eternal, Dad Ricky-Roo: <sleeps through flag-waving :-) > rich-c: actually, I'm secretly hoping the whole thing ends soon so my racing programs stop being bumped Ricky-Roo: Hockey should run from December through February...it should be long done by now...winter is over. George W.: can we street mug em Pam / Erin: you most certainly may not rich-c: hey, I'll second that, George Pam / Erin: here's one for you, Dad - AAAAARRRRRGOOOOOSSSS Ricky-Roo: Oooh, an International Incident! Please continue with the petty bickering and arguing! It is...most entertaining. Ricky-Roo: (Pamerin should know that quote) BobS: richard.........search on Ebay turned up 3 buy it now auctions for $7.50 US plus $15 shipping to BobS: CA BobS: search for ..... 16bit PCMCIA LAN card George W.: they don't call us broad street bullies for nothing Pam / Erin: Data? rich-c: Yea, Argos, yea, Argos, always pull together, Argos; fight for the old Double Blue... Ricky-Roo: Bingo! Pam / Erin: clearly, I've found a cause closer to Dad's heart rich-c: I'm surprised they even offer to ship to Canada, but that shipping cost is outrageous BobS: tis true......but the card is cheap rich-c: I mean we're talking a dinky little PCMCIA card, eh? BobS: a lot of sellers are suplimenting the price by jacking up shipping rich-c: cheap in Yankee dollars, maybe; not for us BobS: ya Ricky-Roo: Hehe, I remember when they were $400 each... Harvie Powis: And don't use UPS rich-c: no, you'll end up paying $30 US for brokerage on top of the shipping BobS: well........keep tabs on them and find one that is IN canada......then the price will be more in line George W.: my apartment was shut for repairs last week rich-c: reqally? what did they have to fix, George? BobS: us postal service .....gift.......... George W.: building code violations Harvie Powis: Dead on Bob Ricky-Roo: A moose once bit my sister... Pam / Erin: should we ask how? rich-c: trust me, Bob, Customs does NOT believe ANYTHING is a gift - and fighting them in court costs too much to argue rich-c: what violations, George? james: ups is the biggest scam going Ricky-Roo: (Sigh, you don't know the "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" ref... rich-c: you noticed, james! james: there's a reason i pronounce it "oops" Pam / Erin: i'm not the Monty Python fan - and R isn't here rich-c: wonder if the library has a Monty Python tape or dvd I could borrow... Ricky-Roo: Where is Rin? Pam / Erin: she's here George W.: leaks Pam / Erin: says she knows the Meaning of Life references Ricky-Roo: You said R isn't here, I assumed that meant Rin. George W.: mold mildew Pam / Erin: No, Russell rich-c: those aren't Monty Python, they're Hitchhiker's Guide Ricky-Roo: Maybe washroom break or something...or keeping your cat away from the dishes. Pam / Erin: E = Erin Pam / Erin: R = Russell Pam / Erin: K = Kimberly rich-c: the cat is plural, Rich Harvie Powis: NO, e=mcsquared Pam / Erin: yes, but only one gets into the dishes, Dad Ricky-Roo: E = Mc^2 Ricky-Roo: Hehe Harvie, we had the same idea :-) rich-c: true, it's too much effort for Inky George W.: find the strings BobS: R=russell.........E=erin......P=pam.......r=richard........R=dr d.........M=me !!!!!!!
(BobS snickers evilly)
(Pam / Erin is thrown out of the window.) Pam / Erin: WHAT??????!!!!!!!!!! Ricky-Roo: Calculate the change in surface area (5 point question, show your work)
(BobS hands Pam / Erin a tissue.) George W.: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
(Pam / Erin throws a hot potato at BobS.) Ricky-Roo: One won't be enough after they hit the ground, Bob. BobS: solly cholly !!!!!!!!!!!1 Ricky-Roo: Need at least a whole box.
(rich-c reboots George W.'s computer remotely.) Pam / Erin: ick George W.: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Pam / Erin: hmm - interesting pattern Ricky-Roo: Magic Eye picture. rich-c: I think he's gone to sleep on us again
(BobS kicks George W.) BobS: wake yourself UP Geo George W.: .-.-..--., rich-c: ooooh! what he said! Ricky-Roo: I got it too... james: anyone here any good with sql? BobS: darn kids........come on here and then fall asleep.........aargh Ricky-Roo: Not me...I just hear people complain about it. BobS: what is sql ??????? rich-c: oh, just a little warning if any of you have been getting that phishing email that spoofs PayPal George W.: xaml? james: sql, for querying tables in a database BobS: am getting them about Paypal AND Ebay BobS: K George W.: avalon Ricky-Roo: Since I have accounts on neither service, I care not...they must be spam. rich-c: watch out for the PayPal one - it has now switched to carrying a work rich-c: worm rich-c: no, they are phishing, Rich Ricky-Roo: When you wish upon a fish Ricky-Roo: Makes no difference what you wish Ricky-Roo: If you wish upon a fish it won't come true. Ricky-Roo: If your heart is in your spleen rich-c: you will still get hooked Ricky-Roo: Then your blood is Vulcan green Ricky-Roo: When you wish upon a fish as dimwits do. Ricky-Roo: (A fun song in our household) Pam / Erin: delicious dishes of phishes rich-c: are you making that up on the spot or did you pick it up somewhere? Ricky-Roo: (from the Anti-Disney album) Ricky-Roo: No, I made it up. Ricky-Roo: I have a whole repertoire of twisted Disney songs...I will spare you, though. rich-c: the Anti-Disney album? tell us more Ricky-Roo: You don't want to know :-) Ricky-Roo: I made them up for the kids...they like them, they are subversive. rich-c: well, not when we're online and arguably sober Ricky-Roo: I am always sober from an ethanol standpoint, but I am quite nuts most of the time. Pam / Erin: I sense a Con topic rich-c: not sure I'd approve of your take on "Whistle while you work" Ricky-Roo: I should have sung them in Toronto. Ricky-Roo: I do have "Hi Ho", though... rich-c: I'll second that Ricky-Roo: Hmm, never thought about "WWYW"...gotta work on it. George W.: XAML only Harvie Powis: Print them to a file and share them Ricky-Roo: Hehe, I could do that. Pam / Erin: now I have Disney songs running around in my head Ricky-Roo: They are all clean...just twisted. rich-c: would you believe I saw the world premiere (in New York) of Snow White? Pam / Erin: got one for "someday my Prince will come"? Ricky-Roo: That is an honor, wow! Ricky-Roo: Yes :-) rich-c: I think it was in 1937 Pam / Erin: don't look now but your age is showing, Dad Ricky-Roo: Do you know the history of that premiere, Richard. Ricky-Roo: Yes, Christmas 1937. rich-c: at Radio City Music Hall
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: mostly I remember a hell of a lineup
changed username to <undefined> Ricky-Roo: It almost didn't happen... Pam / Erin: did Uncle Doug go too? rich-c: and I did see the Rockettes Ricky-Roo: Walt was there, wasn't he? rich-c: and Borden has a mechanical Elsie in the lobby dispensing chocolate milk
<undefined> changed username to Western R. Harvie Powis: Hello <undefined> Pam / Erin: Hi Ron rich-c: greetings, Ron Pam / Erin: how's tricks? Western R.: materizlize ! Western R.: yo! George W.: go.pif Ricky-Roo: Hi Ronald. Pam / Erin: you mean poof, George? Western R.: Hi Pam/Erin George W.: no George W.: Hi R rich-c: no he means program information file - I think he's talking about sql Western R.: Hi Ricky Roo George W.: ???? Pam / Erin: so what's the rest of the story on the premiere, gents? Ricky-Roo: From what I remember reading... rich-c: well, if Walt Disney was there, I didn't get to see him, or if I did I don't remember George W.: too much gas Ricky-Roo: ...the print that was shown was completed at the very last possible moment. Ricky-Roo: Walt brought it with him on the plane, literally still wet from the alb. Ricky-Roo: lab. rich-c: hang in there, George, there's some research getting done here in Toronto that looks promising for Crohn's management rich-c: maybe that's why the lineup was long and slowmoving Pam / Erin: well, you were only 7 Dad rich-c: but at that age I wasn't very critical about picture quality Ricky-Roo: The final sequence was photographed 3 times before they got it right. Ricky-Roo: And each time through took more than a day. Ricky-Roo: The first time, they had the wrong lens on the camera...so it looked like fisheye. rich-c: well considering every frame had to be hand-drawn Ricky-Roo: They reset and started again...and there was a mild earthquake that shook the camera. Ricky-Roo: So they reset and did it *again*...by this time, it was like 36 hours before the premiere... rich-c: where did you find this story, Rich? Ricky-Roo: Luckily they got it right...and away Walt went. Pam / Erin: where *do* you get this info, Rich? Ricky-Roo: A history of animation by Leonard Maltin. BobS: Judy is HOME !!!!! hurray!!!! she sasy HI ya'll......digit hurts too much to ype BobS: type Ricky-Roo: And cross-country flight wasn't just a few hours back then. rich-c: just thinking - back then LA to NYC would have been about 12 hours plus refuelling, if they didnt have to dodge weather in the Rockies Pam / Erin: Hi Judy Western R.: Hi Judy Ricky-Roo: It was very close... rich-c: greetings Judy - get that finger healed up; we're missing you, hear? Pam / Erin: Ron, you're very quiet. How are things? BobS: yes Ronald do tell rich-c: probably got one of the first DC-2 sleeper aircraft - believe they had just come into service BobS: stitches out next week kids !!!! Western R.: Well enough, thanks,Pam/Erin. - Just listenin' to the conversation Harvie Powis: What's the latest in Xanadu Ron? Pam / Erin: is your Mom doing alright? Western R.: I'm in "throw-out:" mode again Western R.: Gave away 2 Macs, more to follow Ricky-Roo: Well, I heard it through the grapevine, Harvey, that Kubla Khan is constructing a stately pleasure-dome there. Western R.: Gotta clean things up around here rich-c: oh - if you have a 16-bit PCMCIA Ethernet card, I need one Western R.: well now...... hmmmm Ricky-Roo: (very inside joke there, Harvie) Harvie Powis: I gotta go see dat :) Ricky-Roo: It's next to a sacred river, I think it's name is Alph. Ricky-Roo: Lots of caves there, too... Harvie Powis: I know of the poem Doc Western R.: considering options on what to do with a large quantity of 5-1/4 inch floppies Ricky-Roo: Hehe Ricky-Roo: Good for you. Western R.: I don't use 'em no more Western R.: and they're takin' up space on the floor rich-c: hang onto them Ron, they are geting scarce and demand is growing Western R.: Hanging on to them is no longer an option Rich, sorry Pam / Erin: go vertical, Ron rich-c: might be worth seeing if any are being offered on eBay Western R.: I have no wish to see them any where here rich-c: are they DOS or Adam floppies, Ron? Western R.: If anyone wants a box, I'd be glad to ship them of to ya Ricky-Roo: How large a quantity? BobS: trouble is.....shipping is too high to go very far Western R.: both Western R.: C 64 format, ADAM format, IBM format, single, double density , you name it rich-c: let me look at that for a few days, Ron - I have an idea Western R.: All's I know is I want 'em outa here BobS: as long as they are NOT 1.2m they can be reformatted for ADAM rich-c: any idea of quantity? I assume all are used Western R.: all used yes Western R.: estimate something up to 500 rich-c: I believe I have managed to format some 1.2s successfully for Adam use Ricky-Roo: In bulk, a couple shoeboxes full, yes? Western R.: um........ let's say 10 shoe boxes BobS: but they are unreliable richard......I have done it also, but not with great success Western R.: my experience also rich-c: that's more than 500 - be nearer a couple of thousand Ricky-Roo: I was trying to mentally multiply the stacks of 25 I used to buy from Micro Center. BobS: had some that we erased with a magnet.....tried to format, failed but could format back as 1.2m .......wierd Ricky-Roo: The magnetic stuff on 1.2M disks is just wrong for the magnetic field used by 360Ks. Ricky-Roo: No way to make it work reliably. BobS: ah so taht is it.......... rich-c: yes, I do know there were idosyncrasies with those discs and they did behave inconsistently Western R.: I will probably hang onto a shoe-box or two, just in case, but I've got way more than that BobS: and THAT is the reason WHY kids rich-c: as I say, I may have an idea - I will check and let you know Western R.: right rich-c: dying of thirst - need a beer - brb Western R.: I don't mind payin some freight Western R.: In Heaven, there is no beer Western R.: That's why we drink it here
(BobS groans loudly) Western R.: right Ricky-Roo: From what I have heard, beer is only rented. Harvie Powis: Here we drink it because we are Canadian :) BobS: and it IS time to start imbibbing....as summer comes on Pam / Erin: <E> tis true! Western R.: ya got that right Ricky Roo Ricky-Roo: Root beer is as far as I go. Western R.: Ron disappears in search of a diet coke... BRB Harvie Powis: Sarsaparilla Ricky-Roo: Man, we're drivin' 'em all to drink tonight.
(Pam / Erin gives Western R. a can of Diet Coke.) Ricky-Roo: Yes! Birch beer. Pam / Erin: cranberry soda! rich-c: basically I drink beer because I don't like pop Harvie Powis: I never liked him either Ricky-Roo: <rim shot> rich-c: beer tastes better Ricky-Roo: Joan is watching an episode of "Adam 12" on TV... Western R.: pop has aspartame, beer has alcohol, water is unsafe, what's a poor guy to do? Ricky-Roo: Malloy and Reed don't have an ADAM in their squad car, though. rich-c: drink beer, the alcohol kills the germs BobS: we's watchin ADAM 12 also !!!!!!!!1 BobS: nothing else to watch Western R.: It plays games with my head Ricky-Roo: Haha. Western R.: and I go all stupid Pam / Erin: Apple juice! Western R.: too tart Harvie Powis: That's the desired effect Ron :)
moved to room Meeting Place Western R.: oh Ricky-Roo: Apple cider...color of beer, foamy like beer, better for you...
changed username to Ravenswood B BobS: Guy....dat You mon???????? rich-c: hello Ravenswood B Ravenswood B: Bob, how do you know it's me. Ricky-Roo: Sounds like an old phone number. Pam / Erin: Hi, Guy
Ravenswood B changed username to Guy B. Western R.: my latest is a concoction of 1/3 Cranberry Juice, 1/3 Diet Ginger Ale, and 1/3 PC Ginger Berr Ricky-Roo: GArfield-1-2323. Guy B.: Greetings! BobS: ve know EVERTHING my son..........we are, after all, computer geeks !!!!!!!! Ricky-Roo: PA-6-5000. Pam / Erin: HU-6395 Guy B.: I had a really good day today. Today is my 24th anniversary with my company. Pam / Erin: recognize that Dad? Ricky-Roo: 1-800-I81-U812. rich-c: that's a private one, Pam Harvie Powis: Beechwood 45789 BobS: poor manager at the restaurant for AC10 in Florida, still doen't know how I knew her name.......... Western R.: You can call me up and have a date Western R.: Any old time rich-c: later HU*6395 then 488 ditto Pam / Erin: Congrats, Guy Western R.: I love oldies rich-c: damn near wore out my finger on it half a century ago Western R.: oldies are my life Pam / Erin: that current Harvie? BobS: CONGRATS Guy.,....you own shares now???????? Harvie Powis: That's an old song Pam Pam / Erin: just checking Western R.: Congrats Guy Guy B.: Thank you. Next year will be the big one. My manager was also today, she's been there 35 years. So, we took her out to lunch and surprised her with a cake. rich-c: that's a fair while, Guy - well done BobS: "big one".......meanign what sir???????? rich-c: will there be anything special next year? Ricky-Roo: 25 years, Bob. Guy B.: 25 hombre Ricky-Roo: 24+1 BobS: ya and what you gonna get??????? Western R.: 26 - 1 BobS: just a kick in the pants, eh?????? Guy B.: Good question. I don't know. rich-c: I have my 25-year pin from the Board of Education rich-c: they used to give watches but gave it up Pam / Erin: I got the goods after 5 and 10 - a gold necklace and a gold / ruby ring BobS: take that pin richard.......and a buck and a quarter or so .....and get a cup of coffee rich-c: actually, I believe it is solid gold Ricky-Roo: Ruby slippers... Pam / Erin: nah, too inflexible Guy B.: Thought I let everyone know that I'm working on getting the emulator and the utilities up on my webpage space. I'm creating the webpage now for it. Ricky-Roo: They will always take you home... Western R.: The feds give out these scrolled placks - Mine says, 25 years, signed by Jean Cretien Western R.: I was actually in 27 years before I got it Ricky-Roo: Really signed? Ricky-Roo: Or just franked? Pam / Erin: Erin says no Western R.: Well.... a facsimile Ricky-Roo: "Certificate of Authenticity" Guy B.: Dr D, how's the leg doing? Pam / Erin: they rarely have the time to sign everything needed Ricky-Roo: No crutches since Monday, Guy, but still limping. Ricky-Roo: Still some swelling and bruising. Ricky-Roo: Give it another couple weeks. Ricky-Roo: I can drive now, though. Guy B.: Must have scared the heck out of you. Ricky-Roo: And how! Ricky-Roo: RRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!! rich-c: I can tell you, it scared us plenty too Ricky-Roo: Nasssty sssound, gollum! Western R.: What happened Ricky Roo.... I must have missed the story Ricky-Roo: Tore a muscle in my right calf 2 Sundays ago. Guy B.: Be thankful that it wasn't worse than it was. Ricky-Roo: The full story is at http://drushel.cwru.edu/rfd-leg/ Western R.: this is not good rich-c: shame on you, Ron - haven't you been checking your email? Harvie Powis: Would not have happened if you were wearing the ruby slippers Ricky-Roo: Plus an updated photo at http://drushel.cwru.edu/rfd-leg/rfd-leg3.jpg Western R.: well, probably, but I get so much of it that I sometimes miss Ricky-Roo: No indeed, Harvie. Ricky-Roo: I was in the ER for a while, on crutches a week, limping now. George W.: hookup your gas pipes i'm letting it rip Ricky-Roo: No surgery needed unless I don't get better. Pam / Erin: a little less time in the ER than on crutches but not much : ) Guy B.: How long will it take it to complelely heal? rich-c: OK George, go for it Ricky-Roo: A few weeks, a month. Ricky-Roo: I am not going to do any running for a while. Ricky-Roo: :-) Western R.: guess not eh? Ricky-Roo: George, gas is a poor suicide choice. Guy B.: Best thing to do is not to overdo anything that will put stress on the leg. Ricky-Roo: Agreed, Guy. Pam / Erin: <E> are there really any good choices? rich-c: actuaslly a little attention cuts the interruptions Guy B.: Anyone sent in their registration for AC16 yet? Western R.: Went down and got a passport application today Western R.: that's about as far as I got Ricky-Roo: I would love too...still need to know for how many days I can be there...in about a month, I hope. rich-c: no, I dont know if we can make it George W.: no, i'm putting out gas. it's getting windy in here Ricky-Roo: love to, arrgh. Pam / Erin: better get moving Ron - I hear it takes quite a while Western R.: yes Ricky-Roo: Then I guess I will need ADAMcon 15.75, then, Richard. rich-c: I believe it's better to hand it in at the office if there is one near you Guy B.: I don't think it won't be too much of a problem for me. Pam / Erin: or 16.25 Western R.: no Western R.: Victoria is closest Ricky-Roo: Some fraction close to 16.0, yes. Western R.: will go there rich-c: if you mail it, Ottawa takes four weeks to send it back because your photo isn't right Western R.: need an excuse to drop in on my ex-wife anyway Pam / Erin: LOL Pam / Erin: why, Ron?
(Guy B. gives Pam / Erin a can of Diet Coke.) Pam / Erin: thanks, Guy Western R.: my perception.... probably not reality Western R.: she's in Victoria Guy B.: I had quite a bit for lunch including Diet Cokes. rich-c: yeah, but that was some while ago, Guy George W.: i have to GO! Western R.: watch that stuff Guy it's rot-gut rich-c: how did the Coke go with the cake? Western R.: take my advice, I'm not using it George W.: nite all
james left chat session rich-c: so press on, George - see you later BobS: nite G Guy B.: Back around 12 noon. Had pizza, salad. The cake came later with Diet Sierra Mist. Harvie Powis: Goodnight George George W.: oh, the gas Pam / Erin: bye George George W.: poof
George W. left chat session Guy B.: So Abby and I went for a good walk on the bike trail. I had her in the vet last Saturday. Urinary Trac Infection came back again. Pam / Erin: looks like we lost James Ricky-Roo: That guy is so full of ____ I wish he would never come back here. Ricky-Roo: I don't care if this ends up in the log or not. Ricky-Roo: I have had it with him. rich-c: patience, Rich - he can be difficult, though Guy B.: I wonder he is even here in the first place. Ricky-Roo: He is a putrid pest and I wish he would stay away. Ricky-Roo: Patience I have none with him any more. Ricky-Roo: Expletive deleted expletive deleted. rich-c: I think he is desperate for any social contact - he has a tough time Ricky-Roo: I am just saying aloud what most are thinking anyway, I don't care. BobS: Dale says he can be knocked off an blacklisted so he can't come on rich-c: I understand and hear you, Rich Ricky-Roo: Only if there are logins and passwords for everyone, that is not enabled in the chat. Ricky-Roo: That would be a pest in itself, more passwords to remember. Guy B.: True. rich-c: I don't think we need or want any login or passeord nonsenc rich-c: se Harvie Powis: Can't you block a single IP ? Ricky-Roo: I am sorry that he is sick and depressed and demented, but I am tired of reading about his colonic discomfort. Western R.: Has anyone tried the "lay-it-on-the -line " approach..... no more of that type of chat, or there will be consequences? rich-c: sure, but if it's AOL, you got problems Ricky-Roo: And what he has to do with ADAM is totally unknown to me. Guy B.: We should tell him that, but I wonder if that will do any good. Ricky-Roo: I will shut up now. rich-c: it may well straighten him up for a while Western R.: first off, I figured he was for real rich-c: interestingly there is very little of that when he shows up on a Saturday Ricky-Roo: I should probably go away and cool down....I am *really* steamed...probably unfairly so...grrrr. Pam / Erin: that's because he's the focus of attention then BobS: Pam laid into him one night....he disappeared for awhile .....and has been a lot better lately since returning Western R.: with reason, Dr. D. Guy B.: I would have been there last Saturday. But I had an emergency. Pam / Erin: he only comes out with this stuff when he's bored Ricky-Roo: Gonna take a walk...back in a bit. BobS: hokay rich-c: the problem is he hs difficulty participating in the normal pattern Guy B.: Ok, Dr. D.
Ricky-Roo moved to room not at my desk Pam / Erin: don't be gone too long Rich Western R.: Meanwhile - back to my 5-1/4 inch disks for a minute Western R.: Think what I'm gonna do is sort 'em, box 'em and count 'em rich-c: OK - let's hear Western R.: then I'll report back as to exactly what I've got Pam / Erin: that may be true Dad but he reminds me of the kid who figures that bad attention is better than no attention at all rich-c: sounds good, maybe put them out on the mailing list Guy B.: Oh yeah. Speaking of that. I'm finally getting close to getting Adamserve back online again. Western R.: right BobS: tis an IDEA wester dude rich-c: I suspect there are folks in the community who wil want them BobS: western Western R.: see how many shoe boxes I really got rich-c: let's say those who still use them will find it prudent to grab some Western R.: well, seems a shame to contaminate the landfill with em rich-c: they are geting incressingly scarce now Harvie Powis: Count your shoes and divide by two Ron :) Western R.: Sally Ann doesn't want them any more Western R.: Thanks Harvie Western R.: I would not have figured that out by myself rich-c: again - see if they are a commodity trading on ebay Western R.: will so attempt Rich Guy B.: I managed to snatch up some brand new ones a few years ago from Target and OfficeMax. They were clearing them out. BobS: they ARE a commodity on Ebay Pam / Erin: that doesn't help if you recycle your shoe boxes, Harvie Harvie Powis: Doh!!
(BobS giggles like a bashful schoolgirl with a crush on the hunk captain of the football team.) Pam / Erin: wonder what it would cost to mail an empty shoe box to you Ron? BobS: AH HA
(Guy B. laughs heartily) Western R.: fill if full of thousand dollar bills
(BobS blushes) Western R.: won't make much difference in the weight
(Pam / Erin laughs heartily)
(Everyone laughs mockingly at Guy B.) Western R.: Aha, aha, aha, ho ho
(Guy B. gives BobS some poutine.) BobS: some WHAT ????????? Harvie Powis: If I sent you a box of thousand dollar bills would you pay them? Pam / Erin: would be difficult Ron, since they've taken $1000 bills off the market Western R.: do you really know what POUTINE is? Western R.: hmm... rich-c: Bob, any idea what they are selling for? (like, enough to cover the shipping?) Western R.: well try 100s Guy B.: Would you like something else instead?
(BobS gives Guy B. some poutine.) Western R.: fries, cheeze curds, and gravy BobS: that's a tasty treat???????? BobS: YIKES Pam / Erin: 'tis good!
(Guy B. throws a hot potato at BobS.) Western R.: sprinkled with a hefty dose of French Canadian curse words rich-c: MELTED cheese curds, there Western R.: yes, the cheeze curds have to be melted
(An Adam tape drive whirs noisily.) rich-c: in gourmet dining, they add pate de foie gras Western R.: Actually, it's delicious if prepared properly Pam / Erin: ick, Daddy Western R.: Which can only be done north of Quebec City rich-c: which reminds me, we're missing Daniel tonight BobS: right !!!!! Pam / Erin: didn't he say he'd be absent for a couple of weeks? Guy B.: Maybe he's busy with something tonight. Western R.: believe so BobS: think he did rich-c: could well be, come to think of it Western R.: That guy is a talent let me tellya Guy B.: I second that. rich-c: I'm not in a position to judge, but I do get that impression Western R.: he certainly can program rich-c: he seems to get things done incredibly fast Western R.: yes rich-c: and I notice he has impressed the commercial vendors with his work Western R.: he has that rich-c: always suggests talent when someone is willing to buy your work Western R.: yup rich-c: money so often conveys basic truths Western R.: root of all evil, but yes, basically BobS: money ??????? WHO needs it !!!!!!!!!!!! Western R.: seems to be our way of comparing the value of items Western R.: to pay taxes with Bob rich-c: and endowing work with validity Harvie Powis: Time for me to say goodnight all BobS: oh yes, that dread thing Guy B.: Bye Harvie Western R.: Still light out Harvie Pam / Erin: night, Harvie rich-c: night Harvey - see you next week BobS: be good Harv......and HAVE FUN !!!!!!! Western R.: sun is shining and all rich-c: before you go, Harvie - what's the score? Harvie Powis: Cats to kill and contracts to fill Ron Western R.: well you better get at it, my man Pam / Erin: you weren't paying attention earlier Dad - we won rich-c: good! Harvie Powis: Bye Bye
Harvie Powis left chat session Western R.: Toronto- Toronto - Toronto - the GOOD rich-c: bye now Harv Pam / Erin: Go Leafs Go! (ever the eternal optimist) Western R.: Nite Harvie Western R.: I have lost my team, may as well root for somebody else Pam / Erin: sorry about the Canucks, Ron rich-c: I'd suggest Montreal - they need all the help they can get Western R.: well, I had a feelin' they weren't really in it Western R.: right Rich rich-c: oh, I thought maybe you meant Ottawa Western R.: but it hurts to cheer for Montreal Pam / Erin: in the end, any Canadian team Western R.: I don't do it honestly
Ricky-Roo changed username to Dr.D. Western R.: never did
Dr.D. moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: welcome back, Rich Dr.D.: All right, I have stopped being childish. Dr.D.: More childish than George, my sincere apologies. Dr.D.: It won't happen again. Western R.: not at all Dr. D. Think you were only giving expression to what the rest of us were keeping inward Dr.D.: I see Harvie left, sigh. rich-c: fuggedaboutit, he can be VERY trying - to say the least Pam / Erin: you missed him by about 30 seconds BobS: go tell Christina to smack ya with the dishcloth Dr.D.: Rats. I went upstairs and watched a bit of B&W "Dragnet". Guy B.: Well folks, got to run. I won't be here this Saturday, have a haircut appt. I'll see you all next week. Dr.D.: And ate the last piece of Gretchen's birthday cake. BobS: kinda boring yes????????? Dr.D.: So long, Guy. Western R.: poor Gretchen rich-c: OK Guy, see you next Wednesday then BobS: be good Guy Pam / Erin: Guy, you have to start scheduling this stuff better Dr.D.: Not really, Jack Webb has a great voice... Pam / Erin: g'nite :) Western R.: night Guy. Go straight home now Guy B.: I'll try Pam. Guy B.: Poof
Guy B. left chat session BobS: cute ron Dr.D.: I watched the color "Dragnet" when I was a kid, but only ever saw bits and pieces of the original. rich-c: Adam 12? Dragnet? those new programs on Fox? Western R.: :) Dr.D.: Haha Dr.D.: Some cable channel is rerunning them. Dr.D.: The one we always watched was "Emergency!", since my Dad was a fireman and also an EMT. Western R.: St. George and the Dragon -Net (ohmygod sorry)\ rich-c: I am using satellite - nice, but I lose it when there is a thunderstorm overhead Dr.D.: He was always impressed about how accurate they made the medical stuff. Pam / Erin: we watched Adam-12, Emergency Dr.D.: Hahaha Ron. Western R.: Ya see one dragon, ya seen 'em all Dr.D.: "Rampart, this is Rescue 51!" rich-c: we used to watch Emergency quite religiously -it was a neat show Pam / Erin: took me forever to figure out that Rampart was the hospital rich-c: of course we wre younger then and not so critical Dr.D.: Brings back a memory of a comic strip I drew in high school... Western R.: same here..... start an IV with D5W and Ringers Lactate Dr.D.: There was a throwaway gag about "Emergency!" in it. Dr.D.: There was a map showing "Lampart General Hospital" on it. rich-c: speaking of which - now you've got me checking Foxtrot evry week Dr.D.: Across the street, labelled "Lampart General Hospital Outpatient Residences" was a cemetery :-) Pam / Erin: cute, Rich Western R.: :) Pam / Erin: why, Dad? Dr.D.: 'Cause Jason Fox is a funny, twisted little kid hacker :-) rich-c: because it's funny - I check up on Non Sequiter too, and sometimes Shoe Western R.: Bob, you better tell Judy to keep the finger raised Pam / Erin: I still only pay attention to For Better or For Worse BobS: she is Ron Western R.: good BobS: and it si getting better BobS: is Dr.D.: Some comic either today or yesterday, a one-panel job, showed a dog reading E-mail and getting spam: "REVERSE YOUR NEUTERING!" rich-c: that's a relief - feeling returning well? BobS: mum over her bout of sickness yet?????? Western R.: ROTFL Pam / Erin: speaking of FBORFW, did you know that the town the Pattersons live in is a real place? Dr.D.: I know they are Canadian. rich-c: yes, I've got Mailwasher running in the background and go delete my spam every ten minutes or so Western R.: There is sure one hell of a pile of people who want me to try Viagra, let me tell ya Pam / Erin: <E> don't worry Ron, they want me to try it too Western R.: oh BobS: same program i use richard////wprls great rich-c: not to mention the herbal equivalents, and the new competitors... Western R.: all of the above rich-c: Frances loves the "Nigerian letters" Western R.: you mean she actually reads them? BobS: "Want a bigger..........." AND "your wife deserves................" they getted trached first Pam / Erin: Millsboro happens to be the town that Russell's aunt lives in Western R.: exactly Bob Dr.D.: Someone wrote a parody of one replacing it with Bush stumping for invading Iraq. rich-c: yesterday;s were "from" Dubai and the Ivory Coast (at least they named it in French, Cote d'Ivoire") Pam / Erin: we used to get those as spam faxes at work. They were pretty funny after a while rich-c: when she's bored - some of them are a hoot Dr.D.: "I am the Honourable Mugabe Futabwa, grandson of the late esteemed Grand Poobah of Unga-Bunga..." Western R.: right rich-c: you got it BobS: and I need help with some $$$$$$$$$$ Western R.: mail me all your money, and I will be forever in your debt rich-c: Dubai couldn't trust his relatives to distribute $18 million in cash he wanted to send to chrities BobS: well gang, time to bd ya'll a fond 'adious' rich-c: he wanted to offer a 10 Dr.D.: That looks like an adjective, Bob. Western R.: be well Bob, be well, Judy rich-c: 5 commission for doing the job Pam / Erin: g'nite Bob Dr.D.: By Judy. Dr.D.: Bye, I meant. BobS: so be good, don't do ANYTHIGN I wouldn't do.......and will see you next week.....god willing and the crick don't rise too high rich-c: nite, Bob and Judy Dr.D.: Spelling ist verflixt tonight. Pam / Erin: is that supposed to be adios or adieu? Western R.: freedom to PaRTY BobS: ya mon......das ist Dr.D.: Portmanteau. BobS: ya that too Pam
BobS left chat session rich-c: depends on whether you want to french or spanish version Dr.D.: Like my new verb, "typoing", itself a typo. Pam / Erin: we'll add it to the lexicon, Rich Dr.D.: I should trademark it or something. Dr.D.: It is so apropos. Dr.D.: An example of the thing it means. Western R.: I like it Dr.D.: You heard it here first...maybe I'll end up in Webster's. Western R.: yes Dr.D.: Imagine the OED citation being this chat :-) Pam / Erin: along with Erin's "clippy-dos" rich-c: the way the internet is getting indexed these days, it could happen Dr.D.: Clippy-do...hmmm...a beret for hair? Pam / Erin: yup Dr.D.: Or just a general paperclip thingy? rich-c: no, a patchy disc operating system Dr.D.: hahaha Pam / Erin: that would be a clippy thingy Pam / Erin: cute, Dad Dr.D.: Has the Word Clippy guy, ick. Dr.D.: What an icon. Western R.: There is such knowledge here Dr.D.: They will have to kill us because of it, we are too dangerous. Pam / Erin: <E> oh that little guy pisses me off Dr.D.: <makes out will> Dr.D.: <leaves nothing to Clippy> Dr.D.: The Mac versions of Word have an old-style Mac man. Dr.D.: Right, Ron? Dr.D.: A 128K Mac with feet. Western R.: yeah rich-c: been mostly online since 5 p.m. - eyes are beginning to tire Pam / Erin: <E> "it looks like you're writing a letter - do you need help?" Pam / Erin: <E> bite me Western R.: I hate him about as much as I dislike the bicycle dude Dr.D.: Wow, you are turning into a net.junkie with DSL, Richard :-) Western R.: "You appear to be writing a letter, would you like some help?" Dr.D.: Haha Rin. Western R.: NO GO AWAY Pam / Erin: <E> bite me rich-c: I'd have been on earlier but I couldn't get Frances off for hours Dr.D.: You appear to be an annoying Redmond git, would you like to be hit with a hammer? Western R.: ROTFL rich-c: but it is time for me to head in and call it a night Dr.D.: Sleep well, Richard, say hi to Frances. rich-c: and Ron, I have put out an inquiry about a possible user for your discs Pam / Erin: okay Dad. If there's anything in the paper about Gabriel tomorrow, please let me know Western R.: nite Rich. One of these years, I'll surprise the world and show up on Saturday rich-c: right, Pam, watch your email Western R.: ok Rich, tks Pam / Erin: call me, Dad rich-c: OK Pam Pam / Erin: nitey nite rich-c: night, all, maybe see you Sat, Ron rich-c: colour me gone
rich-c left chat session Western R.: hope springs eternal Rich Pam / Erin: did we ever establish what colour gone was? Western R.: Speaking of Redmond Western R.: I just bought this Microsoft keyboard.. Would that I had not Pam / Erin: what possessed you Ron? Dr.D.: Spell it with an acute accent, gone', maybe that will make it a color. Western R.: It's got more buttons on it than I don't know what Western R.: a weak moment Dr.D.: The big red one launches missiles, don't press it. Pam / Erin: ROTFL Dr.D.: The blue one causes, of courses, BSOD. Western R.: I had destroyed the plug on my previous, and broke off a couple of pins, which adversely affected its functionality Pam / Erin: yes, I can see how that could be a problem Western R.: I thought so Dr. D Dr.D.: The green one transfers your bank balance to Chairman Bill. Don't press it, either. Western R.: I think one of 'em uploads the contents of myhard drive to Bill Gates directly Dr.D.: Lucky you didn't break the jack on the computer. Dr.D.: Give him something good to read, then :-) Pam / Erin: so which one aims the missiles at the little Word Clippy? Western R.: I am not very dextrous with small electronic components, as you all have seen Dr.D.: Need the mouse for aim... Pam / Erin: something about push pins, I believe? Dr.D.: Ctrl-Alt-RightClick... Western R.: you know about that eh? Pam / Erin: there were rumours Western R.: mmm Dr.D.: Dunno, just made it up :-) Dr.D.: Rumours? Western R.: for you, rumors Pam / Erin: about push pins : ) Dr.D.: (duh) Dr.D.: of what? Dr.D.: As long as Ron didn't sit on any... Western R.: my inability to be careful with electronic gear Western R.: and then to effect repairs with push pins Dr.D.: Oh. Pam / Erin: boy that oh spoke volumes Pam / Erin: so, why not duct tape? Western R.: I use that too Western R.: but only to hold up plants that have blown down in the wind Western R.: Well I'm about to cast myself into a sea of stuff that needs to be thrown out Pam / Erin: there's a whole secondary conversation going on here - about watering computers Western R.: tried that Western R.: they don't like it Pam / Erin: shall we send a lifeboat in a couple of days Ron? Western R.: Plants don't like electricity much either Dr.D.: As long as it wasn't inadvertant from burst pipes... Pam / Erin: well how else are you going to get the computer to grow? Western R.: yes Pam / Erin: call out the coast guard Western R.: I mean no..... it's just that everything is now all over the floor, and I've already made 4 trips to the Sally Ann and two to the local library Dr.D.: I don't think Ron wants them to grow. Western R.: There is no end to it Western R.: shhhh Dr.D.: Are you clearing house with a vengeance now, Ron? Western R.: yeah...... preparatory to a possible selling of the place Dr.D.: You had mentioned that some time ago...avoiding stairs. Western R.: not sure yet, but just in case, the basement needs tidying up anyway.... well, you saw it Dr.D.: Very homey, I thought. Western R.: yes, and that's not getting any better Western R.: that's one word Dr.D.: Much nicer than my basement, you would be appalled... Western R.: really? Dr.D.: I would provide a photo but don't want to risk the approbrium. Western R.: and that there would certainly be Dr.D.: The packing and unpacking for the last 3 ADAMcons has really disorganized it. Western R.: i know how that can happen Dr.D.: Since no "everyday" systems ever got put back up after the cons. Dr.D.: It is just a gmish of stuff in boxes. Western R.: it's true. Wonder why that is Dr.D.: It needs organization...about a month's worth. Pam / Erin: you need a Clean Sweep Dr.D.: I need an external rental storage area. Dr.D.: I think if I could get something for $30 per month, I would do it...put it all in one place. Western R.: I had one of those too, then realized that I was paying 50 bucks a month to store my junk Dr.D.: Then I could at least get at it. Western R.: brb Western R.: Well folks, mother has just reminded me that there are sheets hanging outside, and I must go rescue them from the evening due Western R.: dww Western R.: dew
Pam / Erin changed username to Erin / Pam Erin / Pam: I'm going to let Erin take over for a while Dr.D.: We had frost this morning. Erin / Pam: Nite Ron - hugs to you and Mom Dr.D.: Started at 30 F, ended at 60 F. Western R.: tks all Dr.D.: Good night Ron, and also hugs to Mother. Western R.: niters Erin / Pam: Brr Dr.D.: Supposed to be 75F tomorrow.
Western R. left chat session Erin / Pam: hi there Dr.D.: Hello. Erin / Pam: Pam stepped out for a moment Dr.D.: Keyboard shift, now you type, Pam thinks? :-) Erin / Pam: haha Dr.D.: More cats? Erin / Pam: nope washroom Dr.D.: We could add one here :-) Erin / Pam: hehe Dr.D.: Room creation is turned on now. Erin / Pam: cool Dr.D.: Not by me, Dale did it. See for yourself from the menu. Erin / Pam: very cool (Pam's laughing at your comments BTW) Dr.D.: About the washroom? Erin / Pam: yes :-) Erin / Pam: how do you do the colour? Erin / Pam: or color as you would say Dr.D.: Can I use techspeak? Erin / Pam: ummm......you may....but I may zone out <aloof smile> Dr.D.: Color is specified as 3 numbers, each from 0 to 255. Dr.D.: One is how much red, the next green, the last blue. Erin / Pam: what's red? Dr.D.: Pure red would be 255,0,0. Erin / Pam: makes sense to Pam Dr.D.: The room creation interface wants it in hexadecimal, so it would be FF0000. Erin / Pam: :-) Dr.D.: Black is 000000, white is FFFFFF. Dr.D.: Any 3 all the same makes a grey. Erin / Pam: I like grey Dr.D.: Okay... Erin / Pam: sorry...got lost at hexadecimals
Dr.D. created room Ms. Rin /Ms. Rin's Room Dr.D.: Go look at Ms. Rin's Room...
Dr.D. moved to room Ms. Rin's Room
Erin / Pam moved to room Ms. Rin's Room Dr.D.: Dark grey. Erin / Pam: heheheheehhehehehehehehehehehehehe Dr.D.: Sorta icky IMHO. Dr.D.: Like with a flashlight in the dark basement. Erin / Pam: grey is a statement Dr.D.: Pam is probably freaking now :-) Erin / Pam: I used to wear it all the time (not this particular colour) but to say that nothing is ever black and white Erin / Pam: why would Pam be freaking? Dr.D.: I was just guessing...I guessed too dark. Erin / Pam: secret dark places are kinda cool Dr.D.: It's in the dark...and (LOL) possible genetic predisposition to not liking chat rooms of a different color...witness her Dad with the ADAM Emulator :-) Dr.D.: <runs> Erin / Pam: hehe Erin / Pam: true Erin / Pam: but Pam is not her father Erin / Pam: :-) Dr.D.: True. Dr.D.: ("Thank goodness!" says the Chorus) Erin / Pam: <P> no arguement from this end Erin / Pam: now are you able to delete this room or does Dale have to do it? Dr.D.: Dale has to do it. Dr.D.: The only way to delete rooms or actions is from the console. Erin / Pam: <P> hehe...ooops Dr.D.: No harm done, is there? Erin / Pam: so this could be here for a while Erin / Pam: none Erin / Pam: just funny Erin / Pam: I can bet no one will even notice Erin / Pam: :-) Dr.D.: It's not like I named it Rin's Pleasure-Dome or anything... Erin / Pam: HAHAHAHAHAHA Dr.D.: Or George's Tidy-Bowl... Dr.D.: That one could have a brown motif. Erin / Pam: <P> ROTFL Dr.D.: I should not have brought him up again...rewind tape. Erin / Pam: it's ok Erin / Pam: you are allowed to vent aloud once in a while Dr.D.: Shouldn't have done it. Erin / Pam: done what <tape rewound and erased already> Dr.D.: Made this room so dark. Erin / Pam: ahhhh....well I didn't give you any specs to go by :-) Erin / Pam: and thank you that was very thoughtful.....I have my own room :-) Dr.D.: Well, you have a whole submenu now, so you can keep making new rooms until you get a colour you like. Erin / Pam: Ms. Rin's room 1 through 3 million Dr.D.: I wouldn't recommend pure red, FF0000, it would be very intense. Dr.D.: It would hurt the eyes. Dr.D.: But your apartment is red trim now, yes? Dr.D.: A primary red, or more muted? Erin / Pam: it's a bit deeper than cardinal red Erin / Pam: go to Home Depot....get the Ralph Lauren "Relay Red" Erin / Pam: swatch I mean Erin / Pam: not actual paint Dr.D.: Relay Red, wonder why Relay? Erin / Pam: unless your planning on re-decorating :-) Dr.D.: Yeah, not sure what I'd do with a gallon of it. Erin / Pam: <P> paint the town red Dr.D.: Paint my hair red, that's it. Erin / Pam: hehehehehehe Erin / Pam: um, I don't know about that.....but if you likes, more power to you :-) Dr.D.: Would be messy as it grew out. Dr.D.: Probably have to shave my head and start over. Dr.D.: A sight nobody would want to see. Erin / Pam: then no....... Erin / Pam: IMHO Dr.D.: I would not look good with red hair. I will keep the brown/white that I have. Erin / Pam: sounds good Dr.D.: You two are quiet...what plots are you hatching? Erin / Pam: well aside from getting you to Toronto....Pam is looking at some anciaent looking cell phones that are tucked away Erin / Pam: :-) Dr.D.: If Richard and Frances don't come to El Paso (which I think would be sorta petty, but YMMV), then I might need another visit. Dr.D.: Over two years without seeing the ADAMcon gang, though, that is ahrd. Dr.D.: hard. Erin / Pam: if you need an excuse. Dr.D.: Well, I would have trouble just packing up and going on a whim. Dr.D.: Lots of scheduling stuff to work around. Erin / Pam: <P> hopefully they'll find a way to do it Dr.D.: It's your Dad, Pam, who is talking himself out of it. Erin / Pam: <P> we need to find you another hotel too Dr.D.: I think his reasoning is bogus. Dr.D.: Condos for the old one, right? Erin / Pam: of course it's bogus Erin / Pam: yeah...... Dr.D.: Well, something that isn't Motel 666... Erin / Pam: I'm sure we'll find something Erin / Pam: <P> there's always the futon in Erin's living room or our pull-out couch Dr.D.: Probably no shortage of hotels in Toronto. Dr.D.: Sounds much less expensive than a hotel :-) Erin / Pam: see it all works out in the end Dr.D.: Probably better food choices, too :-) Erin / Pam: <P> "contributions graciously accepted....American money only" Dr.D.: I'll bring my Mason jar full of pennies... Erin / Pam: re: food -- whatever you wish for shall be yours Dr.D.: Guess I'd have to wish for poutine, since I promised I'd try it. Dr.D.: <trepidation> Erin / Pam: if you want something like squid though you deal with it Dr.D.: Nope, no invertebrates. Erin / Pam: it's not bad Erin / Pam: it sounds gross, yes Dr.D.: Well, shrimps are okay, fried clams. Erin / Pam: but I tried it....and I don't try anything Dr.D.: But not the tentacular things. Dr.D.: And please...hope this is no offense...but no macaroni and cheese? It is icky... Erin / Pam: I guess you're staying with me then.....PAm says it's a basic food group Dr.D.: But you are a poor working girl and might have no better fare. Erin / Pam: how about Spaghetti-O's Dr.D.: Those are good. Dr.D.: Beefaroni. Erin / Pam: that works Dr.D.: Shouldn't break the budget. Dr.D.: Haha, now this sounds like "Canada on $20 per day" :-) Erin / Pam: for one w/e? what the Heck we'll get the big can of Beefaroni :-) Erin / Pam: hehe Dr.D.: The industrial-sized 2 kg one, right? Dr.D.: A paint bucket of Beefaroni... Erin / Pam: um, no.....the middle one Erin / Pam: whatever you want that either I or you or Pam can cook will be fine Dr.D.: Now it sounds like my roommate during med school, who would cook a week's worth of spaghetti and parcel it up in little Zip-Loc bags and freeze it...and live off it for a week. Erin / Pam: (shhh -- I also hide chocolate chip cookies for dessert) Dr.D.: Hide from Pam? Chocolate? Impossible, her radar is too good, I bet. Erin / Pam: I buy the cheaper cookies she gets the ones from the bakery....easier for me to hide that way :-) Dr.D.: Lower chocolate concentration. Erin / Pam: exactly :-) Erin / Pam: and I keep them hidden in plain sight Erin / Pam: open up the cupboard and they are right in front of you Dr.D.: Your walls must be spotted like chocolate chips, then. Erin / Pam: you see the paint on my walls is really frosting :-) Erin / Pam: so it covers them up Dr.D.: So you are a witch living in a gingerbread house, trying to trap little children? Dr.D.: I should report you to the authorities. Dr.D.: For shame. Erin / Pam: hmmm.....not little children Erin / Pam: witch....perhaps Dr.D.: Ants, then? They like sweets like frosting... Dr.D.: Graduate of Hogwarts? Erin / Pam: no of my own schooling Dr.D.: I am afraid I am just Muggle Studies. Dr.D.: No magic in me, nor in my family. Erin / Pam: not at all......really quite fascinating Erin / Pam: discovering the nuances of a higher plain of thought as it were Dr.D.: I think I am without nuance...witness tonight's tantrum :-( Still bothers me. Erin / Pam: no one thinks any less of you..... Erin / Pam: what's life if you can't speak what's on your mind Erin / Pam: even if it's not always pleasant Dr.D.: But a continual brain dump (which is IMHO what I think George is all about) is not pleasant either. Erin / Pam: <P> and if you can't say stuff like that to us, who can you say them to? Dr.D.: Maybe nobody...too toxic to others. Dr.D.: Risky, maybe too. Erin / Pam: <P> why? Dr.D.: Hurting feelings. Dr.D.: Not meeting expectations. Erin / Pam: Switching persons for a moment Dr.D.: Shoot me if I become George W...
Erin / Pam changed username to Pam Pam: whose expectations are you meeting? Dr.D.: Well, of others, that I am a reasonable guy, level-headed. Dr.D.: The "usual" Rich. Dr.D.: Sometimes I am not that. Pam: you can't be the usual Rich all the time - you have opinions and feelings just like the rest of us Dr.D.: Hehe Pam: we'd think you were strange if you didn't have a temper Dr.D.: The ideal is that the public and private Riches are the same. Pam: remember, I live with a Scorpio so I know the breed well - better than most, I think Dr.D.: In practice, the public Rich is an idealized version of the private Rich. Dr.D.: But idealization means smoothing and muting of rough edges that would rather not be seen in polite company. Pam: don't you think that after all these years we're beyond the smooth edges? Dr.D.: I am embarrassed that some rough edges came out. Dr.D.: Yes...but that still doesn't make them less embarrassing. Pam: I repeat, why? We don't love you any less for saying what we've all been thinking Dr.D.: I broke down and said it first. Dr.D.: Or have actually been (PRIVATE) ing it for months. Pam: George is one of those people who never grew up and thinks that the world should revolve around him Dr.D.: I don't know what he *really* is. Dr.D.: All I know is what he looks like on the chats, and that is a very unpalatable guy. Pam: for those of us who don't think that way, he is extremely annoying and he obviously doesn't take direction well (ie. being told to SHUT UP) Pam: it's evident from his antics that if he's bored, he feels it's alright to totally disrupt the rest of the room Pam: clearly, he feels that any attention is better than no attention at all Dr.D.: If he's on coleco tonight, I bounce him out, no question. Dr.D.: On adamcon.org, I have not that authority. Pam: that's why we have the voting system Dr.D.: Yeah, there is that. Pam: <E> the onus is not always on you Dr.D.: You are right, Erin, I am assuming too much responsibility. Pam: the problem is, if we toss him, he can get right back on Dr.D.: I don't have to "save" you all from George. Dr.D.: Login/password for chat would be very annoying. Pam: hang on, I'm trying to get my thoughts in order here Dr.D.: Though that would keep him out, for sure. Dr.D.: The admin can edit the username file to put in a password different from the one the user created. Pam: there's nothing wrong with taking responsibility (formulating) . . . . Pam: and in the end you only said what the rest of us have been thinking for months Pam: In a way I'm actually glad you did what you did tonite - it brings it out in the open Pam: so the next time, there will be no question of bouncing him if he becomes a problem Dr.D.: I hope that the whole time I was away was not consumed by discussion of him. Pam: actually there was a brief silence, then Ron purposely returned to the discussion about diskettes Dr.D.: Well, that's good. Pam: I think the key here is that George should be taking responsibility for himself Pam: if he can't, or won't, then someone has to make the tough decisions Dr.D.: Or not-so-tough decisions :-) Pam: so from now on, we'll have to tell him that if his behaviour continues, he's not welcome. Pam: I get the impression that he feels that because he's handicapped, that he should be able to do or say whatever he wants and get away with it Pam: and you'll note that Dad says he's not that way on the Saturday chats Dr.D.: I dunno what he wants, I have never known him not to be how he currently is. Pam: probably because he has the full attention of those few in attendance. Dr.D.: The last N Saturday chats I've been at have been me and your Dad and Daniel, or Rin a couple times when she had a computer. Dr.D.: I haven't seen him. Pam: apparently when he turns up and has Dad to himself he's quite different Dr.D.: And other than kvetch or zzzzzzzzzzzzzz or make rude noises, I don't know what he does that is a positive contribution. Pam: also apparently no one has ever taken him to task for his kvetching because we're all too polite Dr.D.: I did threaten him once, when we were at coleco. Pam: and the key question is, if he's bored, why is he sticking around? Pam: and a good job of it you did, too Dr.D.: Goodness knows why. Dr.D.: I think he is demented (medical sense), not fully there. Dr.D.: Either due to deterioration or meds. Dr.D.: Never having known him when he was well, I have no baseline. Pam: certainly I think that contributes to the problem but I don't think that's the root cause Dr.D.: But currently he is jerk with capital A. Pam: I like your spelling Dr.D.: haha Dr.D.: The best kind of wit... Pam: subtle - which is something that George doesn't get Pam: and the rest of us appreciate Dr.D.: Trying to say the unsayable things... Pam: with style and good taste Pam: something I think we're all very good at Pam: that's why we try to curb Marie when she's on Dr.D.: I haven't seen much of her, I know she has been unwell recently. Dr.D.: I don't have much of a read on her. Dr.D.: Family friend, that's about all I know. Pam: <E> aside from being sick in the head (sarcasm floats in the air) Dr.D.: And a hairdresser. Pam: the history goes like this: Pam: Erin's younger brother Graeme was dating her in high school. Pam: she was having trouble getting along with her parents Pam: after much trouble and wrangling, she stormed out Pam: stayed at my aunt's place for a few days and decided not to go back home at all Dr.D.: wow Pam: under the circumstances, and with her parents knowledge, she moved in with my aunt Pam: was essentially living with Graeme Pam: and became very much a part of the family Dr.D.: In high school, double wow. Pam: she and Erin developed a deep friendship along the way Pam: when Marie and Graeme broke up, she moved back home briefly Pam: after Graeme and his wife found a house, they moved out Pam: (that's a different story altogether) Pam: then Marie moved back in with my aunt for a while Pam: she moved in with a boyfriend for a while but he was violent Pam: she was gone about a year Dr.D.: :-( Pam: after one incident which Erin witnessed, Erin dragged her sorry ass out of there and she moved back to the house once again Pam: this time she stayed for about a year, then moved in with her current boyfriend. That's lasted for a couple of years now and it seems to be going well Dr.D.: Definitely sounds troubled. Pam: when she left to move in with Jason, my aunt told her that's it - you're not coming back so you'd better be sure this is what you want Pam: she is, but she's so sweet Pam: she's Erin's closest friend Pam: as you can see from the way that my parents treat her, she made a definite impression on the whole family Dr.D.: Everyone needs a closest friend. Pam: especially George : ) Dr.D.: Marie definitely seems like part of your clan. Pam: somewhere along the way she got adopted Pam: bless her heart. She can be wild but in general her heart is in the right place Dr.D.: Well, maybe you guys can keep her from being too wild. Pam: now if we could just curb her swearing tendencies . . . Dr.D.: As you put it. Pam: it's more difficult long distance but we have everyone in Windsor keeping an eye on her Dr.D.: Not drawing-room fashion? Pam: ?? Dr.D.: Her speech. Dr.D.: Not for polite company, an old expression in our family. Pam: no, definitely not. Garage, maybe. She has been better recently, moreso because she's forced to think before she says something at work Pam: that's carried over to a certain extent Pam: as you mentioned, she's a hairstylist, and the manager of her salon. She does have a certain facility for working with the public. Dr.D.: As long as she doesn't cuss 'em out :-) Pam: so, what other family secrets would you like to know? Dr.D.: I am not prying! Pam: no, we're offering Pam: I guess we feel like gossiping : ) Dr.D.: I guess I give you something to gossip about. Pam: the world in Windsor is like a soap opera Dr.D.: I wasn't aware that you had *other* family secrets. Pam: if we didn't know things were happening to people we knew, we wouldn't believe it Dr.D.: Your Dad doesn't have any of your ex-boyfriends in the cellar, does he? :-) Pam: no, I only kept one down there, and he left me for another woman Dr.D.: Kept a boyfriend in the basement, sounds soap-opera-y, indeed... Dr.D.: But still sorry to hear you were left :-( Pam: what can we say, we're a sordid bunch : ) Pam: it was for the best Pam: hmm, ancient history - lessee: Dr.D.: Next you will tell me that Rin is defecting to the USA or something... Pam: she's laughing and wants to know if she has a place to stay Dr.D.: I think that there's a warm storage room in the currently-abandoned Chemistry building on campus :-) Dr.D.: They haven't shut off the light and heat in it yet, electricity still works. Pam: oh good, she'll be right over - as long as there's light, heat and a washroom nearby Dr.D.: My old office is there, my key still opens it. Pam: oh good, so she can lock the door at night Dr.D.: Yeah, I was on the 2nd floor, the men's room was on the 1st floor, but women's is on the 2nd, she can avoid the stairs. Pam: well, who could ask for anything more? Dr.D.: Some emergency chemical showers that alas are only cold water. Pam: ick Dr.D.: Hot water in the bathrooms, though, so sponge baths are possible. Pam: <E> it's perfect - I'm defecting tomorrow Dr.D.: Some big lab sinks suitable for washing hair, maybe. Dr.D.: Are you a political prisoner or something? Fleeing an oppressive regime? Dr.D.: It will be hard to get a green card. Pam: then she'll wait a couple of years Dr.D.: Downside to the chem building is that there are cockroaches in it...escaped from the lab of the guy who studies cockroaches. Pam: she wants to know if they're dead - I'm betting no Dr.D.: The biology dept. was swapped into that building while our building was being renovated, that's why I had an office there. Dr.D.: There were dead ones out on the floor. Pam: I repeat - ick Dr.D.: Last time I went in there (about 3 weeks ago, to get some old plywood from our old temporary lab space). Dr.D.: Could be live ones...they don't bother me, I ignore them, they ignore me. Pam: I couldn't do it - not much bothers me, but roaches are on the list Dr.D.: Well, if Erin can't stomach the possibility of roaches, I have no other places to put her up if she defects. Pam: guess I'll have to keep her for a while then : ) Dr.D.: Steam tunnels, maybe, hmmm...I have never seen roaches in them. Pam: such hardship (assuming martyr pose) Dr.D.: My current office would probably draw attention...and I'd have to move stuff around to make room. Dr.D.: I have lots of junk in it. Pam: she can hide under the desk and play with the Lego : ) Dr.D.: Need to clean after the semester is over... Dr.D.: She would probably untie my shoes. Pam: this is starting to sound like the basement : ) Pam: probably would : ) Dr.D.: Lesser degree, accumulated clutter. Pam: I hear clutter is bad. Dr.D.: My feet don't smell, though. Pam: Couldn't prove it by me Pam: re clutter, I mean Dr.D.: Clutter is one thing, filth is another. I am merely cluttered. Pam: problem is clutter begets more clutter Pam: and before you know it you're cleaning around the piles Dr.D.: It is fecund. Pam: exactly Dr.D.: I am too cluttered...externalization of disordered mind. Pam: what I love about the recent rash of reorg shows is that it reassures me I'm not alone in the world! Dr.D.: I will not watch them, I think they are evil and cruel. Pam: but I'll bet you can put your hands on anything you need Dr.D.: Usually :-) Dr.D.: Some things always seem to be out of reach, though. Pam: therefore, a cluttered desk/room/office does not equal a cluttered mind Dr.D.: OMG, it is 1 AM. Pam: yes, it is Dr.D.: Rin and I are going to die at work tomorrow... Pam: that's true Dr.D.: Unless she is napping already, poor thing. Pam: no she's here, contributing about half the comments : ) Dr.D.: Thanks for staying awake, Ms. Rin. Pam: perhaps we should think about signing off and going to bed? Dr.D.: Logically, yes... Pam: Erin grins - "it's all about the company" Dr.D.: <smiles> Pam: and on that note . . . Pam: go to bed Dr.D.: Is that a unanimous order? Pam: reluctantly, yes Dr.D.: All right, 2 to 1, I am voted off the chat :-) Dr.D.: I will go to bed...sigh, morning will be here soon. Pam: yes, but for your own good Pam: good call. Dr.D.: Good night to you both, thanks for your time. Pam: we'll see you next week? Dr.D.: You ought to...unless I am grading LEGO lab design notebooks. Dr.D.: Egg Hunt is this Sunday. Dr.D.: Everything is turned in for grading Wednesday IIRC. Pam: oh, fun! I'd forgotten. Good luck with that. Dr.D.: Final grades due next Friday. Dr.D.: I will need a break, so I will be here at least a while. Pam: well, at least we know you can take a break and chat from the lab if necessary Dr.D.: And I won't let George get to me. Pam: cool. Dr.D.: Yes, that's true. Pam: next time we'll just kick his ass Dr.D.: Don't break your foot.. 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