> chat > Wed 2004-12-08

Chat for Wed 2004-12-08 20:56:52

rich-c: hi jeff youre early
rich-c: that was saent as a private message so it will not be recorded in the log of the chat
jfcarbel left chat session
moved to room Meeting Place
changed username to jfcarbel
moved to room Meeting Place
changed username to Harvie
Harvie: Hello
rich-c: hi Harvie, you're not first on tonight
rich-c: that's unusual
Harvie: I found out that there is no prize
jfcarbel: hi rich, jeff here
rich-c: jeff btw seems to be away from his computer for now
jfcarbel: i'm back
rich-c: ah, you're here now jeff - hi
rich-c: did you record that PM I sent you?
Harvie: Hello Jeff
jfcarbel: PM?
jfcarbel: hello harvie
rich-c: private message
jfcarbel: you mean email you sent me
rich-c: or were you online then off for a bit?
Harvie: I'm getting about a 5 second lag from send to appear on screen
jfcarbel: okay got it now
rich-c: OK, private messaging is used to pass information one does not want recorded in the public record of the chat
jfcarbel: did you get my private msg?
rich-c: I don't mind the people on the chat knowing, but the whole thing is on Google sooner or later - usually sooner
rich-c: sorry Harvie, but I did have to pass the info on
Harvie: No problem
rich-c: jeff is looking for an Adam box and I think I may have a lead for him
jfcarbel: I can put a face with both of you from the AdamCon gallery, mine can be viewed at
rich-c: he tells me there was one on eBay but it was bid up to $260 US, plus shipping!
rich-c: OK, ugly old bunch, aren't we ;-)
jfcarbel: the one on ebay was actually also in the original brown cardboard coleco shipping box
rich-c: did it have the Adam still inside?
moved to room Meeting Place
changed username to james
jfcarbel: yes adam was still in plastic wrap and all manuals and software
rich-c: good morning, james, we have a new visitor from Chicago
james: hello
Harvie: Hi James
jfcarbel: BTW, the our new baby girls pics are on my site link also
rich-c: even so it would mean the box had been opened so there would be a tear somewhere
jfcarbel: Hi James
james: hello. so you're the proud owner of a new adam?
rich-c: james is in Japan, Jeff - hence the good morning
james: how have you been, rich?
jfcarbel: yes james, got it hooked up to a commodore 1702 color monitor and loving it
moved to room Meeting Place
james: wish i had one of those lying about
changed username to Pamela
rich-c: not new, james, we were discussing one offered on eBay - in the original palstic wrap, in teh original box, in the original shipping sleeve
Harvie: Hello Pam
Pamela: Hi everyone
james: ahh.. ebay
jfcarbel: Hi Pam
rich-c: hi daughter - jeff has joined us
Pamela: Greetings, Jeff
Pamela: Good morning, James
moved to room Meeting Place
changed username to Erin
jfcarbel: Rich, thanks for all your help answering my many questions
Harvie: Hello Erin
Pamela: Hi Rin
Erin: hi Harvie
Erin: hi Pammie
james: hi, pam
james: how are you?
Pamela: grrr
rich-c: hi Rin, how was the Legislature today?
jfcarbel: getting crowded in here :)
Pamela: pretty good, tired though
Pamela: it gets worse, Jeff : )
Erin: excellent.....we got the firt question in question period ...a first for Agriculture
Pamela: I spent most of my day folding Christmas cards and stuffing them into envelopes. My arms hurt. Last count, 819.
moved to room Meeting Place
changed username to rich.c
james: getting more crowded by the minute :D
Pamela: I wondered if you got dumped Dad
rich.c: sorry, got dumped early this time 8-(
Erin: did you see my response Uncle Richard?
Pamela: and did you get my question?
rich.c: no, Rin, I didn't - got the you've been dumped box instead
Erin: oh okay
moved to room Meeting Place
rich.c: depends on which, Pam
Erin: it was a great day....we got the first question of question period a first for Agriculture
changed username to BobS
Pamela: Hello Bob
Harvie: Hi Bob
BobS: go day mates
Erin: hi Bobs
BobS: got an FULL house almost eh?????
jfcarbel: Hi, Bob - finally made it on the chat
BobS: cool mon
rich.c: hey Robert, we have a new visitor, just around teh corner from you (Chicago)
BobS: didn't last week ?
BobS: in Guy's area huh ????
rich.c: welcome aboard, Roberto
jfcarbel: me and Bob have been chatting via email for some time, he has been a great help
BobS: si
jfcarbel: Bob, you speak spanish :)
rich.c: yes, he's been looking at all of us in Gale's Rogues Gallery :-)
BobS: NO
rich.c: now he's given us the URL for his baBY DAUGHTER
rich.c: see Bob you arent the only one who has accidents with caps lock
jfcarbel: my tired mug is up there too
BobS: I see Richard
james: i'll be back and forth. this room needs to be de-cased
(BobS quaffs a cold glass of fresh milk.)
Pamela: brb, gotta getta drink
jfcarbel: anyone keep in contact with Scott Gordon?
(BobS hands james a tissue.)
BobS: once in while Scott stops by, but not any time lately
jfcarbel: just wondering how his new site is coming along
moved to room Meeting Place
changed username to rich+c
BobS: rich, you having problems again huh ????
rich+c: dumped again!!!
BobS: the man is triplets
Pamela: I'm seeing triple
BobS: you have GOT to pay that dsl fee mon
rich+c requested to ban rich-c
BobS confirmed ban
Pamela confirmed ban
Erin changed username to Rinious Rouge
Harvie confirmed ban
jfcarbel confirmed ban
rich+c requested to ban rich.c
Pamela confirmed ban
BobS confirmed ban
Harvie confirmed ban
jfcarbel confirmed ban
Pamela: ahhh, that's better
rich+c: there, nopw have we got things in order?
Pamela: but, did that dump him again???
BobS: yup
Pamela: apparently not
rich+c: so where was I, since I lost everything on the screen?
BobS: you except US to remember?
BobS: good LUCK
rich+c: well you at leasst have teh screen in front of you!
Rinious Rouge: hehe
BobS: heard from Dr d about being here tonight????
Pamela: 'twas something about de-casing the room, I believe
james confirmed ban
james confirmed ban
rich+c: no, though I didn't check my mail after 8.00 p.m.
rich+c: is there something there now, then?
Pamela: nothing there from Rich as of yet
james: people are out for a bit so i'm cleaning up my room
james: wrapping a couple o presents
rich+c: my, you're ambitious early
Pamela: are you ready for Christmas James?
james: no, but it'll come all the same
rich+c: I haven't even got my Christmas letter written yet, and my printer is acting up
james: i've decorated my classroom. mostly done
Pamela: good, I don't feel so bad
jfcarbel: just did my outside decorations today, but tree is going up tonite
rich+c: I'm low on yellow ink but the red won't print at all, even though it's there
Pamela: Erin, do you know when you're going home yet?
rich+c: we went and bought us a plastic tree for the porch - it's full of fibre optics
jfcarbel: don't tell me.. its an Epson printer
Pamela: you're ambitious too, Jeff
Rinious Rouge: I will be leaving on the 23rd
moved to room Meeting Place
rich+c: no, it's a Canon S400
Pamela: and coming home when?
changed username to Judy
Rinious Rouge: the 30th
moved to room Meeting Place
Pamela: Hello Judy
Rinious Rouge: hi Judy
changed username to Roberto
Judy: Hi, Pam
jfcarbel: Pam, my wife made me do it :)
Harvie: Hello Judy
rich+c: hello Judy, old man dragged you in, did he?
Pamela: the result is the same, Jeff : )
Judy: Hi, Erin and Rich
Roberto requested to ban BobS
rich+c confirmed ban
james confirmed ban
jfcarbel: where'd Bob go?
Judy: Hi, Harvie
Roberto changed username to BobS
james: what's wrong with your printer, rich?
rich+c: he's now Roberto - you can change your name with the edit menu
BobS: back Jeff
BobS: bot dumped
BobS: got
james: pam, they don't make those "to: from:" xmas labels here so i made my own
moved to room Meeting Place
changed username to Guy B.
Rinious Rouge: brb...gotta go look something up for the boss
BobS: anyway, will check the stuff maybe tomorrow eve jeff and get back at ya
james: and i could kick martha stewart's ass :P
Pamela: really? How strange. We'll have to export some for you !
rich+c: oh, that must have been Judy coming in - new ones in seem to lead to others being dumped - usually me 8-(
Pamela: You go, boy
Guy B.: Greetings!!! I'm using Mozilla Firefox and it works with the chat.
Judy: you can't buy labels?
Pamela: hi, Guy - I got your e-mail
james: i've got some nice ones. just did them up in corel and printed them to an a4 size label
Judy: I would go nuts
Judy: be back in a minute, Doug and Meeka are leaving have to say bye
Pamela: say hi for us
rich+c: hi Guy, you have a neighbikur here - meet Jeff from Chicago
Judy: will do
Harvie: Hi Guy, I've been using Firefox for a couple of months now
Pamela: thank you
jfcarbel: Hi Guy
rich+c: all the techie newsletters I get are very high on Firefox
james: i've been using it for quite awhile now, i really like it
Guy B.: I finally installed it and deleted Firebird whicj never worked with the chat. This is the first time I'm using Firefox with the chat.
Guy B.: Hi Jeff
jfcarbel: good to see some FireFox users out there
james: i've almost never used ie
Rinious Rouge: back
Guy B.: Hi Erin
Rinious Rouge: hi Guy
rich+c: are you using teh full Mozilla 1.0 or only the browser component?
jfcarbel: I though there is just the browser and thats it
james: just the browser component
Guy B.: I took part one of Advanced Excel at work today. Learned about database functions, vlookup and pivot Tables. Tomorrow is part 2.
james: i use thunderbird and another proggy for email and news
moved to room Meeting Place
changed username to Rich
Guy B.: Just thr browser. I'm not using Thunderbird for the e-mail.
Pamela: Greetings, Doc
rich+c: that Dr. D among us?
Harvie: Thunderbird is the e-mail component
Guy B.: Hi Dr. D.
Rich: Hi everyone, sorry I am late.
Rinious Rouge: hi Rich
Rich: Joan and I were out.
Pamela: better late than never
rich+c: we were wondering where you were
Harvie: Hi Doc
jfcarbel: Hi Dr. D
Pamela: brb
Rich: Hi all.
rich+c: can tell you're late, I've been dumped twice already
Rich: Had some meetings to go to, then went by GE Neela Park light plant to see the huge Christmas light displays.
Guy B.: Can anyone tell me how to extract the Jungle.bmp for Windows 98?
BobS: ok got a problem.......Doc...need diagnosis
Rich: uh-oh
Rich: Go on, Bob.
jfcarbel: jungle.bmp?
rich+c: what is jungle.bmp? wallpaper?
Guy B.: Yes, it's part of the Jungle theme
Rich: The startup display is hiddenly named as LOGO.SYS
Guy B.: Wallpaper, RIch
BobS: Doug & Meeka cannot ge tonline to chat from home.......only thing that has happened is that after convention doug paid telephone company to give him 5 permanent static IP addresses
rich+c: don't know if you can separate it from teh theme - what have you in mind?
Rich: I made a replacement one for my Win98 box that is a ColecoVision startup screen.
BobS: now when he tries to get online to chat, the applet never loads
jfcarbel: did you try a search on jungle.*
BobS: ideas???
Rich: Probably a router block on the port used by the chat app.
Rich: Which is 4321 IIRC.
Guy B.: The wallpaper which has a panther on it, doesn't appear on Jeanene's new computer that I'm working on.
Rich: I would have to look at the docs for the chat client.
BobS: and this would be on doug's end or Dale's ??????
Rich: I can look when I get to the robot lab next time to look at the coleco server that has the backup chat on it.
Rich: Doug's end.
jfcarbel: I wonder if theme files are just glorified cab or zip files
Guy B.: I know it's on the Win98 disk, I don't which cab file it is on.
Judy: I am back and they say hi back
jfcarbel: I'm behind a router, but no firewall
rich+c: oh dear, how come not?
rich+c: or is it a hardware firewall in the router?
Pamela: I'm back - went out to say goodbye to Russell - he sends greetings to all
Rich: Hi Russell.
rich+c: on midnights this week?
Pamela: too late, he's gone
Rich: Re: chat client port, my pal in Finland uses his cheap college alumni dialup ISP service.
Pamela: yes, Dad
Rich: It blocks everything except ports 80 and 8080.
Judy: Meeka says hi back, Pam
Rich: So he can't do *ANYTHING* but look at a webpage...unless the server redirects the service to one of those 2 ports.
BobS: BYE RUSSELL !!!!!!
BobS: think he heard that ????
Pamela: maybe, Bob
(Guy B. gives Pamela a can of Diet Coke.)
Pamela: thanks, Judy
jfcarbel: I did nothing special with my router
rich+c: it was kinda loud ;-)
Rich: So I have a version of the chat server for him that runs on a machine with a free port 8080.
Rich: And he can use it.
rich+c: no, but some I gather behave as hardxware firewalls anyway
Rich: I don't have that server running now...but I could put it up for test purposes if someone wanted to try it...
Rich: Or I could change the port that the backup coleco server runs on.
Pamela: if you change it will the rest of us still be able to use it Rich?
Rich: Yes.
jfcarbel: you can always open up a port on a router using port forwarding
rich+c: anyway, jeff, why no firewall, especially when teh best ones are free?
Pamela: Rin, is your mom coming by?
Rich: Like I said, I think the port used by Spaniel Chat is 4321.
Rinious Rouge: no she said she was tired but said to say hi
Pamela: ah, okay
jfcarbel: soon, looking at outpost or that other popular one
rich+c: I have been using Zone Alarm for some time but they seem to be edging away from teh freebie edition
jfcarbel: ZA thats the one
rich+c: I'm hearing good things about Sygate (?) firewall
jfcarbel: outpost looks very user friendly, anyone using it?
Guy B.: That's the firewall I use.
rich+c: jeff, go to
jfcarbel: Dr. D before I forget can you add me to the mailing list
Rich: I just noticed Rinious Rouge, very silly, Rin.
Guy B.: I have outpost on my notebook, but I plan to change to Sygate later on.
rich+c: there you will find teh current top choices of real software mavens for best freeware in many categories
Rinious Rouge: hehe
jfcarbel: guy, you mean outpost or sygate?
Rich: Sure, what E-mail address would you like?
Rich: You can E-mail it to me,
Rich: So you don't have to have it public here.
BobS: heck guys, if you ues Win3.1 you don't get viruses
Rich: Mine is already way public :-)
Guy B.: Sygate I have on my desktop computers and Outpost on my notebook. I prefer Sygate as I like it much better.
jfcarbel: Dr. D you should have it, I emailed you about getting some N&B editions
Rich: Not sure if you wanted that one or not.
Rich: I have Richard's box of N&Bs, but I won't be able to get to the scanning until the end of exams here.
rich+c: btw Doc, when do I get my Adamcon t-shirt?
Rich: I have to finish writing an exam to give tomorrow night, then a robot contest for a course I teach is this weekend, then 2 anatomy exams and a stack of lab notebooks...all to be graded by next Thursday.
jfcarbel: Rich+C, here is a good site too -
Pamela: wow, they don't believe in sleep at CWRU do they?
Rich: When I mail it Richard, which means when I get to a post office, which means not until I no longer have daytime university stuff to do, there is no post office for packages on campus any more.
rich+c: I have a long list, jeff - because I like lots of options so I'll check that out gladly
james: no fair rich, you get to have all the fun :P
Rich: I have not sold your shirt on E-bay, Richard, nor are the girls using it to cut Barbie clothes out of...
Rich: Fun, ai.
moved to room Meeting Place
Harvie: Use Linux, no firewall needed
Pamela: wow, full house tonite
changed username to BobBACKagain
Rich: Then I have to start writing lectures for a new Human Physiology class that debuts in January.
Guy B.: Your back Bob
Pamela: oh
rich+c: anyway, jeff, I have found pricelessware particularly good and strongly recommend it for your firewall
BobBACKagain requested to ban BobS
james confirmed ban
Pamela confirmed ban
Harvie confirmed ban
rich+c confirmed ban
Rich confirmed ban
james: uhh.. i wouldn't go so far as to say you don't need a firewall just because you're using linux
james: you're still going to want to make sure you've got unneeded ports closed and some kind of monitoring system running
Guy B. confirmed ban
Harvie: If you use Linux properly a firewall is redundant
BobBACKagain: don't need on 'cause if someone gets you just wack the hd and start over !!!!!!
rich+c: your turn to get bounced tonight, Bob?
Rich: So what is new, Pam?
BobBACKagain: think it is my isp.....about every 15-20 minutes
Rich: Got your Xmas tree up yet?
Pamela: not much Rich
Pamela: no, that's happening this weekend
BobBACKagain: gonna have to call and complain maybe
Rich: The girls insisted on Saturday, so that was when it went up.
james: heh heh
rich+c: found teh net very slow and ineffective this afternoon - lots of 404s
Pamela: Russell is off Fri-Monday then not again till New Year's Eve, so it's Saturday or never
Rich: They did most of the work, I just hung a very few ornaments and took photos.
BobBACKagain changed username to BobS
BobS: Judy says "goodnight all"
Rich: We've been there before...tree up 23 December then not down until Groundhog Day.
Rich: Good night Judy.
BobS requested to ban Judy
rich+c confirmed ban
Rich confirmed ban
james confirmed ban
Guy B. confirmed ban
jfcarbel confirmed ban
rich+c: night, Judy
Rinious Rouge: nite Judy
Guy B.: Bye Judy
Pamela: bye Judy
BobS: goodnite David, goodnite Chet, goodnite Mrs Callabash, goodnite Gracey
james: i had a valentine's day tree in the clasroom last year
rich+c: well, I've had our lights strung since Nov. 30th - says he with conscious virtue
jfcarbel: anyone have a saved snapshot of his Scott's adamresource website or did it never quite get completed?
Pamela: pppppbbbbbttttt (she says with daughterly love)
rich+c: he said he expected to have it back up soon
Rich: Better than a V-J Day tree, James <runs>
rich+c: depends on which side you're on, Rich
Rich: Don't spit in the chat, Pam!
Pamela: sorry
Rich: With an atom as the star...
jfcarbel: great, I found an archive of Scott's site and it looked like a wealth of information, but all links were dead
rich+c: so jeff, you did get a 1702 and got it running
james: lol. that would go over so well with the older crowd
jfcarbel: yes, just need to figure out what cable I need from RadioShack for the audio hookup
rich+c: I suspect there's little on Scott's site that isn't in Rich's archives
james: though i take the whole hiroshima thing with a big grain of salt
Rich: Put Gojira on the tree.
james: the japanese like to play the victim but have done very little in the way of redress for their own horrific war-time atrocities
rich+c: it's 5-pin DIN on one end sprouting four colour-coded RCA sockets on the other
Rich: Flaming Gojira for the star.
james: lol. mothra candle holders
Guy B.: I know he changed sites recently. I have to check, but it's the same. He hasn't updated it much.
rich+c: I believe teh audio comes oput teh white cable, but just cut and try ;-)
Rich: Gamera glass balls.
jfcarbel: thanks rich I'll give that cable a try
jfcarbel: how do I get to Rich's archives, is this a website
rich+c: used to have teh part # but it's likely hopelessly outdated anyway
Rich: My archives?
jfcarbel: i'll find it
Rich: I have no index.html that accesses everything I have ever put up for people to download.
james: @jeff, i wouldn't bother with a cable from radioshack for the audio hookup
jfcarbel: Rich, do you have an ftp directory
Guy B.: Sometime next month. I'll be making a decision for Adamcon 18.
james: i assume you want to go from the 5-port din thingy to the "audio in" on your 1702, right?
Rich: But you can find some stuff at
Pamela: is that the technical term James?
Rich: I think...
james: very much so
james: :P
jfcarbel: james, correct, thought that what RichC suggested
Pamela: just checking
Rich: Thingy...
james: ok, i migh thave missed part of the conversation
Rich: I thought you Canadians used "dealy".
Rinious Rouge: LOL
Pamela: no, that's Erin's deal
james: all i've done here is taken a standard rca cable, lopped off one end and put the signal wire to the audio out port on the din connector
Rinious Rouge: the Rin Right Dictionary
rich+c: comes from associating with too many politicians
Rich: Thingamabob
Rich: Dingus
james: whatchamadoinkle
Rich: She should look up Ambrose Bierce's "Devil's Dictionary" then.
Pamela: btw, Erin, did you see that Great Big Sea is playing Massey Hall on Dec. 20?
jfcarbel: whatamacallit
(rich+c gives rich+c a nice tall frosty Guinness)
Rinious Rouge: it was a good day in politics and so will be tomorrow
Rich: What, BSE is eradicated now, Rin?
jfcarbel: Rich, that link does not work
moved to room Meeting Place
Rinious Rouge: tomorrow is the inaugural Premier's Agri-food Summit
Rich: Bush was arrested for war crimes while in Canada?
changed username to BOB
jfcarbel: but this one does -
Rich: Ahhh
Pamela: no such luck, Rich
Rich: I knew I misremembered it.
rich+c: no, he has diplomatic immunity
Rinious Rouge: unfortunately not Rich but today in the House we got first question....a first for Agriculture (in our time anyway) usually it always goes to the big 4 first
Rich: it used to be as I gave it before, then I did some reorg a few years ago when my ISP discontinued anonymnous FTP access.
Rich: What is First Question?
moved to room Meeting Place
Rinious Rouge: the first question of Question period
moved to room Meeting Place
left chat session
moved to room Meeting Place
Rinious Rouge: usually the hot issue of the day
left chat session
Rich: So food stuff was the most pressing issue of the day?
BOB requested to ban BobS
Guy B. confirmed ban
Rich confirmed ban
rich+c confirmed ban
Pamela confirmed ban
Rinious Rouge: no sh*t was
Harvie confirmed ban
moved to room Meeting Place
left chat session
Rinious Rouge: and by that I mean Nutrient Management
rich+c: although BSE is a federal problem pretty well
Guy B.: Is everyone crashing?
jfcarbel: anyone have an ADAM Survival Guide?
Pamela: nope, just Bob it appears
rich+c: here they're mad about not being able to sell reserved farmland to developers
Rich: Since when is ____ Nutrient Management?
Harvie: Not me
Rinious Rouge: mainly, yes Uncle Richard
Rich: Don't want those nutrients...
Rich: I have 2 of them :-)
Rich: Re: ASG.
Rinious Rouge: it's about source water protection
rich+c: yes, I think I still have some of teh ANN stock available
Rinious Rouge: can't have another Walkerton
Rich: Or BobS does.
BOB: si senor
Rich: Dunno what Walkerton is/was. Poor dumb Yank here.
james confirmed ban
Rinious Rouge: sorry
jfcarbel: Is this a good doc, that is ASG?
Rinious Rouge: in the town nutrients got into the water system
Rinious Rouge: 7 people died
rich+c: it's what comes from having the Tories running the province 8-(
Rinious Rouge: and many are suffering very badly from it still
Pamela: of e.coli infections
Rich: Very helpful for basic and intermediate ADAM users, a great snapshot from early 1990s ADAM community.
rich+c: it's very much outdated, jeff, but some of teh stuff remains highly useful
james: yeah, the lie-berals are doing so much better a job
Rich: E. coli is not a nutrient.
Rich: Meow...
jfcarbel: Is there an online version of ASG?
Rich: "Jane, you ignorant slut..."
Pamela: it's not???? I knew I was doing something wrong
Rich: Alas no.
rich+c: well I regret to say we have a major betrayal in progress in Queens Park - I am bitterly disappointed
james: e. coli.. definitely not on my daily requirements menu
Rich: Not unless someone has scanned it.
moved to room Meeting Place
Rinious Rouge: you're disappointed because change doesn't happen overnight
changed username to Daniel Bienvenu
james: well rich, having been born the day nixon resigned, i can't say i've ever been in a climate where politicians were liked, let alone trusted and respected
rich+c: I sent teh masters to Scott but he never got them scanned an put up
Rich: And it would be a hard one to scan, since it was already mostly printed Elite daisywheel pages cut and pasted into newspaper columns and then photocopied.
Harvie: Hi Daniel
Pamela: hi Daniel
Rich: I wonder if the camera-original artwork for the Xerox run exists any more.
Rich: Who would have that, Barry Wilson?
rich+c: no, Rin, I am disapp[ointed because they have sold out to the pressure groups
Daniel Bienvenu: hello Harvie, Pamela, james, Rich, Guy, Bob, Erin!
moved to room Meeting Place
moved to room Meeting Place
Guy B.: Hi Daniel
Rinious Rouge: hi Daniel
moved to room Meeting Place
left chat session
moved to room Meeting Place
rich+c: they no onger do their duty to the people, just what's pleasing to cranks like the Sierra Club
left chat session
Pamela: it looks like Bob is still having problems
Rich: what is with all the coming and going here?!?
moved to room Meeting Place
Rich: Sierra Club is no cranks IMHO...
changed username to MeekaS
Guy B.: That's what I'm wondering myself?
Rich: No John Muir, no redwoods left in California...
rich+c: bienvenue, Daniel, didn't see you come in
Harvie: They are around here Doc
MeekaS: I made it! :)
Rich: Holla Meeka!
rich+c: Rich, Scott has teh masters
Daniel Bienvenu: Sorry to be late
MeekaS: hello
Rich: That is good to hear that the masters still exist.
Daniel Bienvenu: I tried to help a friend of mine with a SQL query problem
rich+c: they are hered, Rich, and dangerous and destructive ones
james: i'm ignorant, so someone fill me in, what's the sierra club?
Rinious Rouge: we are making a difference -- it's not reported that way and we are making long term changes not band aid solutions -- course I know you will think it is just rhetoric
Pamela: hey Meeka
Guy B.: HI Meeka. I tried sending you my photos from the con. The e-mail bounced back to me saying server not found.
jfcarbel: someone said Scott's new site will be up soon, hopefully that will be on there
Rinious Rouge: hi Meeka
Daniel Bienvenu: hi Meeka!
moved to room Meeting Place
changed username to DougS
MeekaS: hmmm, dont know what to tell ya guy, all the junk mail still makes it :P
Pamela: and Doug! Hi!
Daniel Bienvenu: Doug!
rich+c: the Sierra Club is a once hugely respected conservationist group founded by John Muir
DougS: hello all.
jfcarbel: BTW, I am thinking of doing an Coleco ADAM tribute site, any suggestions
rich+c: they were instrumental in saving teh gerat redwood forests of California
Rinious Rouge: hey Doug!
rich+c: they also led great defences of teh national parks
james: are they no longer respected?
james: phone
Pamela: wow, we have a huge turnout tonite
Guy B.: Maybe that's why. The files are on the Dell and I have temporaily disconnect it. I'm working on Jeanene's new computer I bought for her for Christmas.
Rich: Maybe I should stay away until 9:40 PM every night :-)
rich+c: hi Doug, it's been a while
Rich: This is almost like an ADAMcon Saturday night chat.
Guy B.: Hi Dug
james: wish i could make it to those
Guy B.: Doug. Boy, my typing is slipping.
james: but sunday at 4 a.m. and me don't mix
Rich: haha not dedicated enough
james: slacker that i am
Rich: But don't the kids get you up Sundays at 4:00 AM?
rich+c: no, they got taken over by a bunch of ecofreak extremists; now they're selling national franchises
DougS: Dr. D, is there any good reason why I had to change the java permissions in IE down to low security in order to get the spaniel chat applets to register?
james: @rich, so basically like greenpeace
Rinious Rouge: hey Meeka......
MeekaS: yes
Harvie: Right on James
Rinious Rouge: do you have your pics up yet? <sweet smile>
Harvie: Same idiots
(Guy B. gives Rinious Rouge a can of Diet Coke.)
rich+c: yes, and at least exqually dishonest and extreme
Rinious Rouge: hehe thanks Guy
(A dog howls in the distance)
james: there are donuts calling me downstairs. brb
Pamela: want some ketchup on that Erin?
(Rich gives Rinious Rouge some poutine.)
MeekaS: lol, no. I really need to work on them , I have been slacking on that stuff lately
Rinious Rouge: haha
rich+c: as one of their own people described them :dogmatic tree-huggers in Birkenstocks"
Rinious Rouge: thanks Rich
Guy B.: Donuts!!! Hmmmm.
(Rich gives Pamela a glass of cranberry juice.)
Pamela: thanks Rich
Daniel Bienvenu: Can I have some poutine too?
(Rich gives Daniel Bienvenu some poutine.)
Daniel Bienvenu: :-)
(Rich gives Daniel Bienvenu some poutine.)
moved to room Meeting Place
jfcarbel: Hey I'm thristy too :O
Guy B.: I made a strawberry milkshake. Lowfat version.
Rich: Growing boy needs 2 servings.
changed username to back afain
Rinious Rouge: alrighty Meeka, just checkin' :-)
Daniel Bienvenu: thank you Rich :-)
Rich: I am hungry but not sure for what...
Rich: ...or what is in the fridge.
(Pamela flings quantities of Diet Coke across the Rockies)
back afain changed username to back again bob
Guy B.: Thanks Pam
back again bob: damn phone system somewhere.......
Daniel Bienvenu: yeah!
Rich: That's a new one!
Pamela: I just wanted to know what it was!
back again bob: see the D&M got on tomnight
Rich: Which one is it, Pam?
rich+c: not necessarily, Bob, the 'net has been a mess today
Pamela: "diet"
Rich: Ah.
Pamela: under subject actions
Pamela: I think Ron created it
back again bob: 'so maybe not just me eh????
jfcarbel: BRB, ordering dinner
Rich: Hehe, he is the only one not here tonight.
back again bob requested to ban BOB
rich+c confirmed ban
Rich confirmed ban
Guy B. confirmed ban
rich+c: on my bbs group, most of the links in teh postings 404s
Pamela confirmed ban
Harvie confirmed ban
jfcarbel confirmed ban
moved to room Meeting Place
Rich: I just killed "BOB"!
moved to room Meeting Place
changed username to Meeka
rich+c: and any pictures posted offsite we little red Xs
back again bob changed username to BobS
changed username to DougS
jfcarbel: yikes and I agreed by accident, peer pressure!
Guy B.: Boy, Bob is having all sorts of trouble tonight.
Harvie: "They just killed Kenny"
Rich: haha
Meeka: see what you started dad :)
jfcarbel: hahah
Rich: "Looks like we need a new Timmy!"
BobS: not my fault, the phone lines were squirely when you guys were here
Guy B.: Well, what's going on there?
james confirmed ban
Rich: NSA is bugging BobS.
jfcarbel: Bob, sure someones not trying to tap your phone :)
DougS: We both got a javascript error and got booted.
BobS: our own phone company !!!!!!!!!
jfcarbel: Rich, beat me to it
Rich: All that traffic in ADAM swag looks like terrorist activity to the spooks.
rich+c: don't know, Guy, perhaps a worm, perhaps a mechanical fault (some contractor broke a cable), perhaps a DOS
jfcarbel: Patriot act
Rinious Rouge: watch out for the chili peppers in the suitcase!
BobS: Jeff, THAT is probably closer to the truth
Guy B.: Could be anything. Even noise in the line could be the culprit.
Pamela: speaking of which, I need to get Mom and Dad's to them - I still have them <blush>
Rich: Must be that article floating around the net now, "Build a SCUD missile guidance computer out of spare ADAM motherboards".
james: just blame canada
rich+c: well if anyone wants to blame Carnivore, I'll buy that
rich+c: especially since they're said to be testing a more voracious edition
Guy B.: Rich, seems you haven't crashed tonight or did you?
BobS: fer cryiin' out loud girl
Rich: Rich D. has not crashed.
Guy B.: Not you Dr. D. Rich C.
Pamela: I know, I know. I put them in a drawer during cleanup and forgot about them
Rich: hehe me and my nice stable 17" Powerbook :-)
BobS: well give them to the folks for xmas gift
Meeka: sure ya did ;)
rich+c: yes, I took teh early shift, then bob took over ; - )
Guy B.: And I'm on the desktop using the DSL.
jfcarbel: BRB
Pamela: now *there's* an idea
Rinious Rouge: I haven't been kicked off........yet....remains to be seen
Pamela: neither have I
Guy B.: Me neither.
BobS: on dialup now....IF I get lost this time I won't be back gang
james: let's push him out :P
Rich: BRB, cops in front of our house! NSA is listening to me.
Pamela: James!
BobS: oh oh
james: heh heh
james: "did i do that? oopsy!"
(Pamela reboots james's computer remotely.)
Daniel Bienvenu: Yesturday, I downloaded a funny cartoon in 3d, available freely to download. I'm looking for more humoristic 3d cartoon like that.
james: lol
Daniel Bienvenu:
Guy B.: I might be a little late next week. My mom's retirement home is throwing a Christmas Party for all the residents and families. My sister and I will be going there.
Pamela: sounds like fun, Guy
Daniel Bienvenu: I'm planning to burn a DVD with some cartoons like that to see them with my family during chirstmas
rich+c: well, not fun, but tolerable, one of teh easier duties
Guy B.: I brought a small Christmas tree over to her that I had. Got some lights and ornaments too. Still have to decorate it.
rich+c: ah, you're talking films, Daniel, not static drawings
jfcarbel: I noticed on one of ADAMCon galleries a shot of a Coleco ADAM commercial, who had that?
Daniel Bienvenu: yeah, film
rich+c: was there ever a commercial for Adam? I've never seen or heard of one
Guy B.: Bob was that you who had that?
jfcarbel: It was on a TV screen some took a pic of
BobS: not me but YES there was commercial
Harvie: Alan Alda did a TV commercial for ADAM
BobS: and might have it here, was on Good Mornign America one day I think
Guy B.: We saw it a couple of years back at the con.
rich+c: after all these years, we still learn new things!
jfcarbel: would like to convert it to DVD and also put up a divx video on my site
rich+c: it won'
rich+c: t fit on a CD?
Rich: Back, 3 cops stopped some car.
Rich: DUnno what he did...
jfcarbel: just bought a new toy from canopus, an ADVC300 that does a great job of restoring old VHS tapes
Rinious Rouge: wow
rich+c: it's mistaken identity, Rich, he's FBI with an acoutic snoop on your hose
rich+c: cops didnt realize who the prowler was
Rich: let 'em come get me... "BUSH IS A FINK!"
Daniel Bienvenu: ho! I find another (film) cartoon in 3d.
rich+c: he wil later translate to sound of your keystrokes into a text
jfcarbel: Dr. D get me on the mailing list and I will query for who has that ADAM TV commercial
Rich: Will do Re: mailing list.
Daniel Bienvenu: This one looks like WORMS but agains a poor bunny.
jfcarbel: sure I could out it on a CD as a MPEG2 file
rich+c: a.s.a.p Rich, the list is active at the moment
rich+c: has anyone solved Joe Blenkle's problems?
james: which ones?
jfcarbel: What was Joe's problem?
rich+c: the latest was printer ribbons which I hope I dealt with
Rich: I am trying to add it now, Richard.
rich+c: good show, rich
Guy B.: He's looking for Diablo Hytype I ribbons for the Adam printer.
jfcarbel: BRB
rich+c: I emailed him back, told him no problem, I have lots
rich+c: surprised I haven't had an order from him; he has bought from me before
Pamela: he probably forgot, Dad
rich+c: seems unlikely; Joe just has his own strange ways
Daniel Bienvenu: hahaha! I find a cartoon based on what some guys looks like in front of their computer when bidding on ebay auctions.
Harvie: Didn't he say someone on e-bay had a bargain available?
Rich: Krud, the mail server in EECS is down right now, don't seem to be able to login to my CWRU E-mail, "NFS server reducto not responding still trying"
Daniel Bienvenu:
rich+c: yes - on Hytype IIs which are useless for Adam
Daniel Bienvenu: mmm... the last one is in quicktime format. I can't use it.
BobS: unless you could transfer the ribbon itwelf ???????
rich+c: why don't you just download teh quicktime viewer, Daniel? It's free
rich+c: well, you can take out the ribbon and put it in a Hytype I cartridge, yes
rich+c: but any ribbon pancake will do (I have lots) it's teh cartridge that counts\
rich+c: Bob, is Doug still on or is his sign-in a relic?
BobS: I have had trouble with the printer cover using after markets.....on some printers only
Daniel Bienvenu: Well Rich, the problem is transform the movie into mpeg-2 format for DVD.
BobS: think it is a relic
Harvie: I don't think he was looking for a cartridge, just wantef to know if the hytype 11's were worth buying
Daniel Bienvenu: My computer is unstable and the tool to do that crash when trying to create the output file.
Guy B.: Well folks, I brused my arm earlier this week and I want to try putting an icepack on it. So, I'll see you all next week or Saturday if I'm not out shopping.
rich+c: do you have any "universal" viewers like Irfanview or Slowview that can convert formats?
rich+c: OK, Guy, see you whenever - take care
Daniel Bienvenu: commercial tools like videowave crash right now on my PC.
BobS: bye Guy
Harvie: Goodnight Guy
rich+c: oh, Guy, before you go
Rich: Bye Guy.
Daniel Bienvenu: my computer is unstable
rich+c: why don't you send jeff a provate message with your phone number?
Daniel Bienvenu: the only video-capture tool that works for me is VirtualDub... it's the only one.
Harvie: My computers "user" is unstable :)
rich+c: any idea why it's unstable, Guy?
rich+c: sorry, Daniel
DougS: i still here
Guy B.: My computer is not unstable. Daniel's is.
Guy B.: Ok, gang. I'
Daniel Bienvenu: I think it's a video card drivers problem
Pamela: go take care of the arm Guy. We'll see you next week.
Guy B.: See you all later.
rich+c: Doug, do you still have any copies of Win98SE for sale?
Rinious Rouge: bye Guy
Guy B. left chat session
DougS: not right now rich
rich+c: that implies that you may in teh not too distant future
Pamela: that's what I was going to ask
DougS: if i go looking for them.
Pamela: how much?
rich+c: should you do any finding, I would appreciate being told about it
Pamela: still here, Bob?
moved to room Meeting Place
rich+c: we are vaguely eyeing a new laptop and I would like a different serial number
changed username to Dr.D.
Dr.D.: Not sure what happened there.
Daniel Bienvenu: hello again Dr.D
rich+c: most come with WinXP but there are parts of it I don't trust
BobS: yes dear
Dr.D.: Got a javascript error.
Pamela: it's Rich we lost this time
rich+c: well Bob threatened to go off in a sulk if he got hit again so now the server is picking on Rich
Dr.D.: Vortex claimed me.
rich+c: that's what he gets for coming on as Rich instead of Dr.D
Pamela: at least now we know threats work
Daniel Bienvenu: Well Rich, I think a friend of mine has a copy of a Win98SE in english... but you know, it's a copy not an original so I think you don't want it
Dr.D.: :-)
Dr.D.: I think I'm going to take it as a sign that I ought to go to bed...
BobS: chicken
rich+c: I have a number of valid Win95 numbers and a Win98 upgrade disc so I'm not too pressed
Pamela: LOL
Dr.D.: <cluck cluck>
Dr.D.: <lays egg>
Rinious Rouge: hehe
Daniel Bienvenu: I have two windows 98 manuals with a key unmber of it.
jfcarbel: Dan, send me a PM with your phone or email, we can chat
Dr.D.: So I am off to bed...another late night tomorrow, will be gone until after 9 PM.
rich+c: I just don't like the inconvenience XP imposes, especially if you have a hard disc crash or do an upgrade
jfcarbel: I use Adobe Premiere for all my captures
Daniel Bienvenu: Me?
Rinious Rouge: good night Rich
Pamela: Goodnight, Rich
Dr.D.: Good night, all, and I'll add you to the mailing list tomorrow jfcarbel.
Dr.D.: <poof>
Dr.D. left chat session
BobS: nite Rich
Daniel Bienvenu: Bye
Harvie: Goodnight Doc
jfcarbel: I capture from either my Matrox RTX.100 card or the Canopus ADVC
rich+c: nite Rich
DougS left chat session
rich+c: Daniel, drop me a line on email about teh Win98
Pamela: I'm thinking it would be a good idea to follow Rich's lead. I'm pooped.
jfcarbel: yes Dan about the video capture if you want to chat
Rinious Rouge: wow Pam same wave length
Daniel Bienvenu: My computer is a pentium II 400Mhz and I use an ATI RADEON.
rich+c: OK daughter, go get your shuteye - see you Sunday if not befoe
Pamela: I keep telling you, two heads, one brain
Rinious Rouge: hehe
Rinious Rouge: well good night all see you next week
rich+c: jeff, Daniel can meet you here on chat - we have out times, but teh chat is really up 24/7
Pamela: and the brain is saying sleep!
Daniel Bienvenu: well, jeff... it's jeff? my email is newcoleco AT yahoo DOT fr
rich+c: so if two folks get together, nothing to stop them from using it
Pamela: gnite everyone
Rinious Rouge left chat session
james: good night pam!
BobS: nite Pam
jfcarbel: yes Jeff, I'll send you an email later
jfcarbel: bye all
rich+c: nite Pam
Daniel Bienvenu: bye
BobS: nite ALL, gonna hit the sack too
rich+c: nite Roberto
Daniel Bienvenu: Well, me too... bonne nuit!
Pamela: kerpoof
BobS: next week all
Pamela left chat session
BobS left chat session
jfcarbel left chat session
rich+c: OK Daniel - bonsoir
Daniel Bienvenu: it's cleaning up the list of users.... and rich still there, he was not kicked by the software.
rich+c: wow, that thinned out the group in a hurry
rich+c: yes, I'm still here, it was Dr.D. who got booted
Daniel Bienvenu: *poof*
Daniel Bienvenu left chat session
rich+c: Meeka, you still with us?
Meeka: yup
rich+c: guess not - just Harvie and james
Meeka: headin out soon though
rich+c: ah, OK, you've been so quiet
Harvie: I guess I'll make it thinner, goodnight
Meeka: lol
rich+c: OK Harive, see you next week
Meeka: been watchin the conversation
Harvie left chat session
rich+c: it got pretty hot and heavy tonigfht
Meeka: I have been catchin up on e-mails too
rich+c: good crowd, lots of acticity
Meeka: ya, that happens from timer to time :)
Meeka: yup
rich+c: gets a little tough keeping all the threads straight, but lots going on
Meeka: k, well hopefully since Doug got chat workin agian I will be back next week
rich+c: right, we will look forward to you two joining us, then
Meeka left chat session
rich+c: so looks like it's time to say goodnight, james
rich+c: nice to have a new user with us; hope he will be back
rich+c: anyway, must go, see you next week
rich+c left chat session
james left chat session > chat > Wed 2004-12-08
Send comments to the feedback page. I am Dale Wick