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changed username to Erin rich-c: hello Rin, you're early Erin: hi Uncle Richard...yeah a bit rich-c: that's OK - better early than late
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changed username to BobS Erin: so might as well be early BobS: HI kids rich-c: having a busy week, are you? Erin: hi Bobs rich-c: greetings Roberto BobS: late night last night rin ????? BobS: got to pace yourself Erin: a bit of a busy week Bobs Erin: and I forgot how hard it is to wake up at 5AM rich-c: is the Legislature back in session? BobS: got a winter storm warning here richard.........headed your way too ai think Erin: nope not until Feb. 15th BobS: then WHAt is so busy ?????? BobS: tis VACATION time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 rich-c: yes, we're supposed to have fairly exstensive snow starting at midnight Erin: BSE rich-c: oh right, you've got another mad cow BobS: we don't have so much snow, jsut nasty wind and blowing....supposed to get 8-12" before it is done tomorrow night Erin: yep and the Americans have said they will open the border as planned on March 7th anyway...so it should be all right rich-c: anyway Bob our radar this afternoon showed a lot of nasty stuff south of us but it hasn't blown up here - yet
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changed username to Dr.D. BobS: oh richard, you stilll here???? rich-c: oh, maybe I'll get lucky and stay on tonight BobS: DOKTOR Dr.D.: Hi everyone. BobS: snowy ther eis it? rich-c: hello Rich Dr.D.: Very, Bob. Erin: hi Rich Dr.D.: It took me about 45 minutes to get home tonight. BobS: you can HAVE IT Dr.D.: It was only because of the dumb time I chose to come home. rich-c: this time it isn't lake effect, Rich, it's a soggy mess up from Texas
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changed username to Pamela BobS: Judy says...."sucks to be him" (dr d) Pamela: good heavens, everyone's early tonite Dr.D.: haha rich-c: hi daughter BobS: yup Erin: hi Pam Pamela: Hi everyone Dr.D.: Hi Pam. BobS: Pam !!!!!! rich-c: anyway maybe I can stay on tonight - I'm trying Firefox Pamela: let's hope, Dad Erin: would be nice for a change Dr.D.: One campus problem happened this week: a kinda critical bridge across the railroad tracks that separate south campus from the rest, was closed by the City of Cleveland -- PERMANENTLY. rich-c: I'm already finding parts of it I don't like Pamela: hey Dad, is Mom hanging around? Dr.D.: Bridge is ready to fall down...so it must be replaced. rich-c: yes she is Dr.D.: Of course, they won't begin that until May...and expected completion date isn't until July 2006. Pamela: with you now? rich-c: yes Dr.D.: It is a major artery into/out of campus...so with it closed...other routes are backed up. Pamela: Mom, thanks for teaching me to hemstitch rich-c: ? BobS: bummer rich Dr.D.: Add the snow tonight, and that is why my 45 minutes to get home. Pamela: I hemmed my black dress pants last night Dr.D.: I just put it in first gear and listened to the radio :-) Pamela: and it looks like a professional job rich-c: by hand or on the sewing machine? Dr.D.: Next time I will go a different way home. Pamela: by hand Pamela: and I just wanted to say thanks rich-c: that;s pretty neat rich-c: you're welcome Dr.D.: Sewing is a good skill, I'm glad the girls all have it. Dr.D.: I am limited to buttons, however. rich-c: your ma gets her sewing macine back from teh shop soon Pamela: well I'm no professional, but I know my way around a sewing machine, and do a fairly good job by hand too Dr.D.: It's broken, Richard? rich-c: they phoned today to say it was ready, but we do not plan to drive tomorrow rich-c: she has a collection, Rich, and this one was showing its age Pamela: I also mended three sweaters with holes in them rich-c: hey, way to go Pamela: also by following mom's advice rich-c: she's retreated to read her book now, but I'll tell her Pamela: I just wanted her to know that I do listen to her occasionally : ) Dr.D.: How old is this machine, Richard? Pamela: my age minus three years, Rich rich-c: two or three decades, Rich - not sure Pamela: which repair shop Dad? rich-c: she's had an Elna bought new since the year dot Dr.D.: Joan has her Grandma's 1950 centennial edition Singer. rich-c: and has been pleased enough with it to buy a couple of used "backups" Dr.D.: But she replaced it with an Elna. Dr.D.: Mostly because she was tired of doing buttonholes by hand, no buttonholer for the old Singer. rich-c: Frances would agree with that Dr.D.: Hmm, seems to me we had this discussion here some few years ago... Pamela: Erin, you didn't call me back on Monday rich-c: don't recall exactly, Pam, up above 7 on West Beaver Creek Road Pamela: Mom's original Elna is 36 years old, Rich Erin: nope 'cause I didn't get the message til Tuesday Pamela: oh, not the one at Dufferin and Wilson then Erin: sorry bout that rich-c: not quite as old as you are, Pam Pamela: LOL - what happened? Erin: didn't check my cell til I got to work Pamela: she bought it when I was three Erin: I was revelling in having the place to myself Pamela: Did Pat get off okay though? Dr.D.: Mom had a White and wore it out after 25 years. rich-c: I think Franceds' original sewing machine was a White Erin: yep actually Andre (from Sue's office) came over for a couple hours, we all had dinner and her drove her to the train station and me back to the apartment Pamela: wow, nice : ) Erin: yeah saved me some tokens and it was a nice visit Pamela: I really enjoyed having her here on Friday rich-c: Pam, going to nag you again - send me that BSOD message Pamela: I wish we could have spent more time with her Erin: it was a good visit Pamela: STOP NAGGING! I haven't forgotten Dr.D.: <meow> rich-c: huh! I think I'll get it around teh time my Adamcon shirt turns up Dr.D.: I presume it Pamela: btw Dad, have you sent the sculpture pictures yet? Dr.D.: Yes, I owe you that Richard. Dr.D.: It is still sitting right on top of my dresser. rich-c: what sculpture pictures? Dr.D.: Pristine and untouched. Pamela: of the kitty! rich-c: oh, I don't know if your mother has even downloded them yet Dr.D.: Wonder if I have any bubble mailers that are big enough for a shirt... Pamela: well don't wait too long, I want to send them to people Erin: of your gift from Catherine, Pam? rich-c: with my chat board off teh air I've been doing heavy maintenance on teh computer Pamela: yes, Rin Erin: hehe rich-c: and your mother has hardly got a look-in Erin: that thing is really cute Dr.D.: Your auto chat is down, Richard? Pamela: Bob, why are you so quiet? Dr.D.: watchin' TV I bet :-) rich-c: yes, and I am suffering severe deprivation BobS: just watching the jabber go bye Pamela: pooooor Daddy Dr.D.: What's wrong with the chat?
(BobS laughs heartily) rich-c: no, haven't turned on teh TV since teh Grey Cup Dr.D.: Do you guys have snow, Bob? rich-c: it got hacked over Christmas and Justin is having problems getting it back up Pamela: are you getting snow Rich? I missed that conversation Dr.D.: Any suspects? Dr.D.: Yes, we are getting snow and sleet. 45-minute drive home tonight, usually 7 minutes :-) Pamela: oh, lovely Dr.D.: Like I told Bob, I put 'er in 1st gear and listened to the radio. rich-c: no, it was collateral damage when teh business server got hacked Dr.D.: I am afraid I am limited in my ability to talk about cars, if you are suffering withdrawal. rich-c: I think he has to give priority to the company server Pamela: I never told you I got stuck on the ice on Friday, did I? rich-c: no, though I'm not surp[rised - we had a bit of a surplus Pamela: parked in the wrong spot down at the salon rich-c: Pam, did I send you a clip of Maukie? Pamela: yes Pamela: did you send it to Erin? BobS: Dr D....got about 3" last night and tofday and winter storm warning now......maybe 6-10 by tomorrow night rich-c: does it have teh full function (prr, meow, etc)? Dr.D.: I wouldn't be surprised if we got a big amount, Bob. Pamela: I don't know, I haven't tried it Dr.D.: <going to check current accumulation> BobS: probably......you are int he path rich-c: OK, if not I have an improved version Erin: what's Maukie? Pamela: he didn't send it to you? Pamela: for shame, Daddy rich-c: a very cute flash presentation for cat lovers Erin: not that I'm aware of rich-c: I don't think I even have Erin's email address Pamela: where should I send it Rin? Pamela: send it privately Erin: my hotmail would be best rich-c: better I should send it, Pam, so she has full function Dr.D.: Two inches deep...and heavy sleet falling. Pamela: oh, that one. Okay Erin: okay so here it is Uncle R Dr.D.: It is rain until it hits the ground, then it freezes. Dr.D.: I stood outside in it and got my hair all wet :-) rich-c: OK, have it copied rich-c: it's two files and unless you know how to edit html script must be put in a specific directory rich-c: you will also need Macromedia Flash player but you likely have that anyway Erin: hmmmm...'kay....wouldn't have a clue at editting the html script Erin: alright...I'll check it at work Dr.D.: What does this thing do, Richard? Pamela: I sent it to your hotmail Erin Erin: thx BobS: YUCK Dr D Pamela: I'll second that, Bob Dr.D.: It is pretty icky weather. Pamela: by the way, Happy New Year, everyone BobS: well KEEP it Rich Erin: oh right Dr.D.: Fun for snowball fight, though, it packs beautifully. Erin: that happened didn't it :-) Dr.D.: I'm not sending it to you, Bob. rich-c: it's a cat that behaves in a catlike way; you can use it as wallpaper in fact BobS: right pam.......but now.....you ya expect it to be better tahn last year?????? Erin: nifty Uncle R BobS: or worse??? Dr.D.: It's moving toward Cleveland from your direction, right? Pamela: it's an open book Bob Dr.D.: HNY Pam. BobS: yup.actually south of us Pamela: it will certainly be different rich-c: just looked at our radar - we are still on teh northern fringe but I can see you're getting it good, Rich BobS: we are going to catch the northern edge with the snow only Pamela: where's the weather witch when you need one BobS: up at the north pole partying with Santa !!!! rich-c: yes, it seems to be past you, sort of check-mark shape with teh check up Lake Huron and teh stroke along Lake Erir into NY state Pamela: is your place warmer Erin? Dr.D.: I still wore my Santa hat to work today. Erin: not really rich-c: see my keyboard has forgotten how to spell again Dr.D.: I got some catcalls...but I said hey, it's a warm hat. Erin: seems a lot chillier today Pamela: it's freezing in here, even with three layers and the heater running Pamela: are you running your heater? rich-c: sure you didn't leave a window open, Pam? BobS: make it a fad, Rich.....were it until summer !!!! Erin: you mean your heater :-) Pamela: definitely no windows open here rich-c: the wind should be on the offside of teh building for you Pamela: whatever : ) Erin: not yet...dunno why I don't it's chilly Pamela: unless it's coming from the southwest Dad, we're gonna get some wind from somewhere Dr.D.: Christmas in July :-) Dr.D.: The car salesmen do it. rich-c: the storm is from teh southwest, up from Texas Pamela: having windows on three sides is both a blessing and a curse BobS: winter makes it a curse BobS: course the summer......... rich-c: yes - I'm a bit chill even though I'm at teh computer which is usually enough to keep me quite toasty Pamela: well, it doesn't help that there are no curtains up in this room Pamela: in the winter, this room is the coldest. In the summer, it's the hottest rich-c: yes, they do help in damping drafts Erin: i have the heater on now Pam BobS: well then......put up some cheap horizontal blinds Pamela: good - run it at 500 or 1000w, to avoid blowing a circuit Erin: and how would I judge that? Pamela: there's a reason there are no curtains in this room Bob Pamela: first or second heat notch only, not all the way up to the third Erin: right like you told me the other night...I got it on II Pamela: good : ) rich-c: note this URL folks: http://www.broenink-art.nl/anneke/maukiehome/index.html BobS: and that is Pamela: and the reason would be because the curtain rod is currently residing on the floor where it fell down Dr.D.: <I am working on burning a DVD, BRB> rich-c: highlight it and hitcontrol-c, Erin rich-c: then open Notepad and under edit click paste BobS: WHY???? rich-c: that shoud give you a permanent record of where Maukie lives Pamela: this building is built of cement block under plaster. It's hard to drill into the ceiling, and harder still to get stuff to stay there Pamela: we put up the rod and it stayed for about two days before one of the plugs fell out Erin: got it, thanks Pamela: haven't had a chance to repair it BobS: what is this Maukie thing???? Pamela: it's a virtual cat Bob rich-c: might as well deownload from there, Erin; even if I send you the files as an attachment they will still download at the same speed BobS: ahso Erin: alrighty Pamela: Erin, you still have my little white ladder, right? rich-c: make sure you get teh instruction sheet on how to make it work Erin: yepper, used it to change the kitchen bulb rich-c: Rich or Bob, either of you running Firefox? Erin: with your bulb I might add Pamela: okay, perhaps I can get it back from you this weekend and get your assistance with the curtain rod? Erin: okay BobS: nope, jsut win98 Pamela: great. Thank you. Pamela: <note to self: find the floor in the computer room> Erin: good notes are the key to success Erin: :-) Pamela: LOL rich-c: Firefox runs under Win98 just like IE does BobS: so why use it????? rich-c: it is alleged to be far less vulnerable to web nasties, for one thing rich-c: it has some features like tabbed browsing some folks like Pamela: I want some thing sweet. Anyone got any chocolate? rich-c: sorry, daughter. I could muster and apple or a clementine Pamela: hmm, clementine - there's an idea Pamela: brb rich-c: now we've got two of them gone BobS: kinda small tonight, eh ? BobS: maybe everyone thinks the weather in the midwest is stopping the chat rich-c: Erin, did you notice teh report in the paper today that BSE may be a random mutation and not hereditary? Erin: hehe Bobs rich-c: well, Guy and on are always late, and with James one nevr knows Erin: the was CJD was it not Uncle R? Pamela: don't worry, I didn't go far rich-c: Daniel may have gotten preoccupied with something Pamela: only problem with this is sticky computer keys rich-c: the two seem to have a similar way of doing their damage, Rin Erin: yes they are both brain wasting diseases rich-c: but whether there is an established relationship between BSE and CJD is pretty iffy still BobS: Pam...QUIT eating over the keybaord !!!! rich-c: yeah, you're only supposed to drink over it Erin: from what I understood from the article was that CJD was seemingly random rich-c: Bob, I lost track (again) - are you still on Coumadin? Pamela: how am I supposed to defend my self with sticky fingers? rich-c: lick 'em off ;-) Pamela: <gulp> very juicy clementine rich-c: we got one box that was small and bitter, but all teh others have been very nice Pamela: second box went mouldy on us before we could finish it, and I found one with seeds. Otherwise, they've been great Pamela: bleah, sticky puds rich-c: we've been going through about a box and a half a week rich-c: and yes, we did have a few that wre very seedy Pamela: 0ujjj rich-c: anyway Rin, back to your problem - yes, and they're now suggesting BSE may be random too - an infrequent chance mutation Erin: I don't think that would be too surprising, then Pamela: oops, sorry - cleaning the keyboard rich-c: if so that means no one (and no nation) can afford to get righteous about it Erin: but that would be hard to explain in the UK rich-c: take it in and run it under teh shower, Pam Erin: I mean 12 a month was not exactly random Erin: or rather infrequent rich-c: it does seem to be communicable and that happened through feed, I believe Pamela: not till I'm done with it Dad - I don't want to get electrocuted : ) rich-c: changing the regulations on feed seem to have cleared things up Erin: that's the understanding yes...the Specified Risk Materials in animal feed Erin: seems to have yes....and this most recent animal was born prior to the feed bans
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changed username to james rich-c: yes, it's what, eight years old? james: good afternoon rich-c: good morning, james - rich-c: go ahead and gloat about your weather in Japan Erin: yep....it was born in '96 and the ban came into effect in '97 Pamela: there was a PBS program on BSE and CJD a couple of weeks ago that seems to confirm that specified risk materials in the feed are the reason for contamination Erin: hello James Dr.D.: I'm back. Dr.D.: Hi James. Pamela: good morning James Dr.D.: My DVD is now burning...should take about an hour. Dr.D.: So I am now free while I wait. james: how is everyone? welcome to the year 19105 BobS: hiya james Pamela: a "cheery little blaze"? rich-c: you must have an awfully slow burner - and enough to fill the whole DVD Dr.D.: It has to encode the video... Dr.D.: It's not just writing a file...it's doing the authoring. This is a video DVD. rich-c: no way to encode teh video file onto your hard drive, then burn it from there? Dr.D.: That is what it is doing, Richard. Dr.D.: Video into iMovie for editing...iMovie project into iDVD for DVD layout...and then burning. rich-c: if it's just a file transfer, then, that seems awfully long Dr.D.: Ron would understand :-) It's how he made his ADAMcon presentation. Dr.D.: Speaking of whom...anybody heard anything from him lately? BobS: nope rich-c: when I back up my hard disc I pretty well fill teh DVD but it doesn't take any hour to do it Dr.D.: The transfer part is not slow, it is the squeezing down of 25 GB of video data into 4.5 GB of DVD. rich-c: and it's being compressed on the fly Dr.D.: Writing file data is different than encoding video for a DVD. rich-c: yes. if you're getting a 5:1 compression ratio, that figures rich-c: anyway, Rich, are you using IE or Firefox? BobS: BRB Dr.D.: As a web browser under MacOS X? james: test rich-c: oh right - you'd be using Safari Dr.D.: This is Exploder...Safari locks up after a while with the chat...or at least it used to. Pamela: you're here James Dr.D.: I haven't tried it for a few MacOS upgrade versions. james: odd.. nothing else comes up.. wonder if some dns server got knocked out somewhere rich-c: you're with us, james, the server just has occasional slow periods tonight rich-c: I don't know, the web has been noticably slow teh lst two days james: just tried a bunch of sites but they didn't come up] Pamela: the scroll is slow tonite Dr.D.: I haven't noticed any bad performance. Dr.D.: There goes Richard... Pamela: whoops, we just lost Dad Dr.D.: I think it is his firewall software... Dr.D.: I asked him to turn it off and give a trial to see if that stopped the drops.
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changed username to rich-1 rich-1: was I the only one who got botted or did we all? Dr.D.: We are all here, Richard. Pamela: just you Dad rich-1: OK, I suddenly got a popup for no visible reason Pamela: and maybe James : ) rich-1: that's a shame, here I ws doing so well tonight Dr.D.: What did the popup say? Pamela: boo Pamela: : ) rich-1: maybe I need a beer to cry into ;-) Dr.D.: ha
(Pamela gives rich-1 a nice tall frosty Guinness)
(rich-1 gives rich-1 a nice tall frosty Guinness) Dr.D.: to both Dad and Daughter Erin: I've thought about it and no I don' think so Pamela: 'kay Pamela: you certainly have enough furniture Pamela: especially for someone who a year ago didn't have any Erin: yeah just something else for more clutter Dr.D.: Clutter is good, it's filth that's bad. Dr.D.: I am the king of clutter. Dr.D.: But it is clean clutter. Pamela: heck, I'm the empress rich-1: then I'm the emporer rich-1: I was doing some de-clettering this week Dr.D.: The Kingdom of Klutter. Pamela: what can I say, I learned from the best rich-1: (dull thud as Pamela faints onto floor) Dr.D.: I defer to Richard; he is the most senior of us, he can be the King. Pamela: so what did you throw out Dad? Pamela: LOL Erin: hehe rich-1: paper long in need of retirement primarily Dr.D.: Does Pam need CPR now? Pamela: (Lindsay comes rushing upstairs to see what made all the noise) rich-1: I did note throw out teh TTC tackets I found Pamela: !?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!?!? Dr.D.: I guess dial 9-1-1 or Canadian equivalent. rich-1: won't say they were old, but the value on teh back was 25/c
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changed username to Late Ronald Dr.D.: What is TTC? rich-1: mooooo Erin: RON!!!! Pamela: Toronto Transit Commission rich-1: Toronto Transit Commission Dr.D.: Hello Ron, Happy New Year and all that jazz. Late Ronald: hey! Pamela: greetings and Happy New Year Ron rich-1: hey, it's Ron - thought it was James coming back Late Ronald: and likewise to ya'all Pamela: bus fare when I was about 2 rich-1: anyway Ron, a happy new year to you too Dr.D.: The buses here in Cleveland were still 50 cents when I was a freshman in Fall 1980. Dr.D.: The trains, too. Pamela: so where did you find the tickets, Dad? rich-1: well, I think this would pre-date that Pamela: was that student fare or adult, Rich? rich-1: oh, one of thpose things stuck in a drawer somewhre rich-1: I even found my ATL card from University (Admit To Lectures) Pamela: okay, even I have cleaned my drawers more recently than that Late Ronald: they still got streetcars in Toronto? Pamela: yes Ron Dr.D.: I found a CTS transfer ticket from 1975 in a library book here once (Cleveland Transit System). Pamela: on King, Queen and College Streets Late Ronald: ah Pamela: sorry, Dundas, not College rich-1: not to mention Spadina and part of Bathurst Pamela: oh yes Erin: College has a Street car rich-1: and yes, the College cars are back running now the track's been rebuilt Erin: and St. Clair Late Ronald: in the fourteen years I lived in Ottawa, the price o f a monthly OTC pass increased from $26. to $63. Pamela: shows you how often I ride anything but the subway anymore : ) Dr.D.: No streetcars here since a long time ago. rich-1: anyway Pam, the 25˘ was teh adult fare Late Ronald: Vancouver still has trolley-busses
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changed username to BobS da 2nd Pamela: we retired ours - too much traffic Late Ronald: just about ran into one before Xmas
BobS da 2nd requested to ban BobS
Late Ronald confirmed ban
rich-1 confirmed ban
Dr.D. confirmed ban
Pamela confirmed ban Pamela: didn't they retire the Bay street trolleys finally?
BobS da 2nd changed username to BobS Late Ronald: forgot about Vancouver bus drivers.... when want out and you're in the lane left of em.... well Late Ronald: watch out rich-1: oh yes, not long after teh subway opened BobS: Ronald, how are doing????? Pamela: how do you miss a trolley bus??? Dr.D.: Bus beats car BobS: sneaked in whilst I was gone Late Ronald: well enough Bob, thanks Dr.D.: Like rock-paper-scissors Late Ronald: up to my butt in probate papers Late Ronald: ya Dr.D.: Sigh Ron rich-1: in Ontario know when a bus signals you MUST yioeld way - a new law BobS: probably and now, jsut try and read those papers rich-1: no way to get around probate in BC, Ron? Pamela: and speaking of which, would you please change your handle from "late" to "tardy"? Late Ronald: been that way unofficially for some years in Vancouver BobS: abd yubderstabd them BobS: ]and understand them BobS: farn dingers Late Ronald: for estates, over 10 Gs...no Dr.D.: Bob is speaking Dutch tonight.
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Pamela: or his fingers have a bad head cold : ) Daniel Bienvenu: happy new year again folks! Late Ronald: you guys stop pushing the cold air west please rich-1: bonjour, Daniel - joyeux annee Late Ronald: we not supposed to be this cold Erin: happy new year Daniel BobS: happy one too Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: Hello 'rin, Ron, Bob, Dr.D, Pam and Rich! =) Dr.D.: Hi Daniel, Happy New Year. Pamela: hi Daniel - HNY Late Ronald: A self-respecting Tsunami would freeze before it hit the coast Dr.D.: <however that goes in French> BobS: misery LOVES company Ron Late Ronald: :( Pamela: and we were taught to share : ) Late Ronald: oh rich-1: would you like some of our so far dry air - at -6 and sinking? Late Ronald: snow in the forecast for tomorrow Dr.D.: We have heavy sleet here in Cleveland, Ron. Pamela: 10 cmsupposed to be coming our way Dr.D.: 45 minutes to get home tonight...usually 7 minutes. Late Ronald: sleet? yikes! rich-1: yesm here too - 8-12 CM they think rich-1: don't ask what Rich is getting in Cleveland Dr.D.: Snow day for the kids if it keeps up :-) rich-1: and this one is from the southwest, not lake effect! BobS: Judy says "HI" Dr.D.: I wanno go outside and have a snowball fight. Late Ronald: Hi Judy Dr.D.: It is perfect packing snow. Erin: hi Judy Pamela: where is she Bob? rich-1: hek,lo Judy BobS: sitting here with her feet up
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changed username to jamesII Pamela: yay, it's James jamesII: i'll be back and forth. i have to call and bitch at my isp Late Ronald: Hi James Pamela: go for it James : ) jamesII: hey ron. i'll be back shortly rich-1: gee, we wre beginning to wonder if someone had amputated your head... Dr.D.: Or Japanese equivalent, probably much politer. jamesII: had this problem before where i was online but getting no dns resolution Daniel Bienvenu: hello james rich-1: there's been a lot of that going around jamesII: worked fine the night before, get on in the morning and stuff doesn't work, isp can't find problem and insists it's my router Pamela: I notice that the scroll is moving much faster now Dr.D.: This machine multi-tasks for Dale, I bet. jamesII: i insist it's not and that it's a problem connecting to their dns server Dr.D.: Maybe he is using it for something. Late Ronald: well of course James. Customer is always wrong eh? rich-1: maybe Dale was doing some work and has finished now Pamela: maybe it just needs to warm up : ) jamesII: but didn't have any way of proving it. now i do. Late Ronald: good jamesII: going to reconfigure my router to their dns server to see if the problems come back and then again to my friends to see if they go away rich-1: what are you doing to prove it, james?
Late Ronald changed username to Ronald jamesII: now that i have a server that i know works, i can tell them as much and get them to stop blaming my router Dr.D.: Don't forget to mix the matter and antimatter with your bare hands, James. jamesII: lol Dr.D.: But keep the door closed, or you'll flood the whole compartment. Erin: well folks, I'm going to call it a night Erin: gotta be up too early jamesII: i told them i had a hard time believing that everything on my router but dns would work Ronald: what else would you call it Erin? jamesII: heh heh. bbs Pamela: nite, Rin BobS: ik rin.....sleep well Dr.D.: Nite Ms. Rin, HNY. rich-1: right Rin, happy 5 a.m. awakening (uggggh) Ronald: nite love Dr.D.: blech Erin: a nuit Ron :-) jamesII: *kill.this()*
jamesII left chat session Pamela: insert bleep here Dr.D.: You killed Rin, James! Dr.D.: :-) Erin: thanks all...have a good night and week :-) Erin: lol Pamela: ttyl Erin: bye bye Erin: <kablooie>
Erin left chat session BobS: hope THAT doesn't leave a mark on rin Pamela: James blowed up real good Ronald: my sister and her hubby are headed for Bali next Tues Ronald: I dunno....wrong part of the world for me Dr.D.: Bali? Pamela: where is Bali, Ron? Dr.D.: warm and tropical Ronald: just east of the bad area Pamela: I KNOW that Ronald: travel agent assures them there's no damage
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changed username to rich-2 Ronald: one of the 13000 or so Islands that make up that chain you see on the map extending south and east from Thailand rich-2: OK, well now we know it isn't my browser is the problem Pamela: it's the comings and goings that are doing you in Dad Dr.D.: Safest place to be on the planet now, won't be another tsunami like that for a few centuries. Dr.D.: In that part of the world, anyway. Ronald: suppose that's true Dr. D Dr.D.: LA and Seattle, take note. Pamela: unless they have another killer earthquake Dr.D.: That is what will happen when the San Andreas fault goes... Pamela: never say never rich-2: yeah, teh next big one wil be offshore from Vancouver Ronald: yup BobS: and the island will break off into the sea and float around like a cruise shi[ Dr.D.: haha BobS: ship rich-2: there is much concern about teh Cascadia rift Ronald: Vancouver Island returns to the seabed, and the west coast moves inland 70 miles Dr.D.: Was it Rin who was saying that Sumatra moved 6 meters from where it was? BobS: oh. not good mon Ronald: we have been warned Pamela: 30 metres, Rich Pamela: 90 feet rich-2: it wasn't six meters, Rich, it was 30!!!!! Dr.D.: I couldn't remember the number. Pamela: it was a lot, regardless Ronald: big Dr.D.: Bad memory here, Richard, mea culpa rich-2: compared to even the biggest California quakes, that's many tikes the earth shift Ronald: last Tsunami hit Port Alberni in 1958 Ronald: Port Alberni is at the head of an inlet 60 miles long BobS: aw CRAP, then my maps of the world are all wrong???????? Ronald: not sure of year, was either 1958 or 1964 rich-2: yes, that was a harmonic from one based in Alaska Ronald: yup Pamela: knowledge test here foks - Russell was saying that the earthquake was a 9 on the earthquake scale, but that only California uses the Richter scale and that this one was not equivalent. Any knowledge / opinions? Ronald: narrow space, too much water rich-2: only earthquake measurement I've ever heard of is the Richter scale Ronald: me too Dr.D.: What is, "I don't know, Alex"? Ronald: Richter got up one morning and said, "Ya know, what this world needs is a scale" rich-2: I believe theree is another measuring tool but it is rarely used Dr.D.: Equivalent kilotons of TNT? rich-2: folks don't like Richter because it is logarithmic not straight arithmetical Pamela: I've never heard of this and I don't know where he got his information. Dr.D.: Ask him :-) Ronald: Who, Richter? Pamela: no, Russell Ronald: oh rich-2: no Rich, this one was measured in nuclear bomb equivalents Pamela: ahhh, my fingers are finally warm Daniel Bienvenu: I know Richter, 6 is 10 times more powerfull than 5, yeah that's logarithmic. Pamela: <she says, parenthetically> Ronald: Meanwhile, the officials in Sri Lanka are saying they'll have to find something for the Canadian DARTS team to do rich-2: yeah, if you put your heater in your lap long enough, that happens Ronald: like decibels Pamela: I think the top 5 feet of the room have finally warmed up rich-2: right Daniel, so don't even think about a 9 Dr.D.: Biological sensors are logarithmic...nothing wrong with log scales...pH is a log scale. rich-2: yes, sound is on a log scale too Daniel Bienvenu: 9 is supposed to be the maximum? Pamela: there is no maximum Dr.D.: Even Star Trek warp factors are logarithmic :-) rich-2: there is no maximum, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: if i remember well, I only experienced a 5 Ronald: somebody else in Edmonton was trying to tell me there rich-2: just that there hassn't been a 9 or higher more than about twice since they started measuring Ronald: There's no such thing as >9 Ronald: first I'd heard of that Daniel Bienvenu: it shaked like if we are in an old train running fast. Pamela: if I remember correctly the Frisco quake in '06 was an 8.6 Ronald: lets hear it for tectonic plates rich-2: no, like any log scale it in open ended, at least till edefined by the Apocolypse ;-) Pamela: fascinating stuff Dr.D.: God may not play dice, but he knows how to interpolate in log tables :-) rich-2: actually 8.4 I think but I'm not positive enough to argue Ronald: Repent, repent, I say! The Kingdom is at hand Daniel Bienvenu: @ Dr.D : are you sure God doesn't place dice? Daniel Bienvenu: err.. play Dr.D.: Repaint, repaint, the kingdom of Glidden is at hand! Ronald: :) Pamela: naw, I'd rather use Benjamin Moore rich-2: interesting question, Daniel, but I don't think we're going to go there Ronald: there was a story out here about 2 young Dudes from Williams Lake (interior of BC) who slept in the day of the Tsunami, and therefore did not go to the beach as planned rich-2: too easy to generate too many hurt feelings
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changed username to jamesIII Ronald: picked the right day to sleep in jamesIII: well now my isp's dns is working all of a sudden rich-2: james, were you in and out agasin? Dr.D.: <Rich rolls d20, makes saving throw against uncertainty> jamesIII: yup jamesIII: lol Ronald: quick, James - talk Ronald: no saving throws - I cancelled them all rich-2: I think he's contesting my title as most booted on the board Pamela: yeah but he's booting himself Ronald: his isp rich-2: right, flipping between two ISPs Pamela: well James, much as I hate to love ya and leave ya, I think it's time I went to bed jamesIII: anyway, i'm here to stay for a bit Ronald: good James Dr.D.: I probably ought to go to. Dr.D.: I only have to get up at 6:30 AM, though. jamesIII: off the phone with tech support. they're going to check things on their end (or not since they got me off the phone) Pamela: and I don't have to be up till 6:45 rich-2: there is an article in Consumer Reports this month praising the Japanese decision to allow competition in phone service BobS: oh man.......you gotta take a npa early so you can stay late Pamela: positively uncivilized Ronald: I don't have to get up at all jamesIII: 6.30? gack. even my kids don't get up that early Dr.D.: I didn't get home until 7:15 PM tonight, Bob. Pamela: consider yourself raspberried, Ron Daniel Bienvenu: I prefer think that the nature is ruled by precarious stability generated by chaos, the butterfly effect. So God had nothing to do with what appends. Dr.D.: Ron is the lucky one. Ronald: I know, I know Pamela: I didn't want to spit on the keyboard jamesIII: hi dan! Daniel Bienvenu: hello again james rich-2: well, Pam and Rich, good night, sleep tight, and drive very cautiously in the morning Ronald: but in actual fact, I've been waking up around 7 am Pamela: yes Daddy jamesIII: anyway, call me stubborn and cranky but i don't like being told a problem is on my end when it isn't Daniel Bienvenu: you are leaving, rich? Ronald: don't blame you James rich-2: you're a chaos theorist, are you, Daniel? BobS: nite kids Pamela: g'nite everyone - until next week jamesIII: bye to whomever is leaving! Ronald: Nite Pamela.... be good Pamela: I will Ron rich-2: no, Pan and Dr. D. are leaving Pamela: I'm outta here Pamela: kerpoof! jamesIII: bye pan! jamesIII: heh heh Dr.D.: Bye all until next Wednesday...when classes will have resumed. Ronald: west coast is still here Pamela: : ) jamesIII: for now, eh ron? :P
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Dr.D. left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: Well, I think that some things can't be avoid, and some things can be. Ronald: and the list dwindles rich-2: "a Chinaman sneezing in Shanghai can set men to shovelling snow in New York" - quote from 1939 book Daniel Bienvenu: the nature acts as it supposed to act, no matter what I drink during dinner. Ronald: probably just as well Daniel rich-2: first statemnt of chaos theory (or alusion to it) I ever saw jamesIII: well i think there are all kinds of little things that have a cumulative effect and this can influence nature rich-2: anyone like to guess author and title? jamesIII: "Rich Clee - Observations of an Old Man"? heh heh rich-2: (a sudden silence descends) jamesIII: just teasing you rich Ronald: Aldous Huxley? rich-2: it was a bestseller and even a Readers Digest condensed book (but despite that very good) jamesIII: guess i could cheat and google for it jamesIII: but that's no fun Ronald: ya got me curious now rich-2: go for it james, be interesting to see what you get rich-2: I'll let james sweat a while, then offer more hints jamesIII: sec jamesIII: browser seems to have crashed Ronald: you're still there rich-2: hey, that's not fair! Ronald: I'm here because I'm not all there rich-2: oh he's there, just Google isnt, right? Ronald: aha rich-2: anyway I couldn' rich-2: t get on to eBay last night, and had problems with eBay.ca jamesIII: hmm jamesIII: not getting much actually rich-2: and got an extraordinary number of 404s Ronald: what are you searching for, "Chaos theory" ?? jamesIII: no, i'm searching on the quote directly rich-2: basically he has to be looking for a novel that contains that quotation Ronald: the positive achievements of a public servant will be inversely proportional to the quality of supervision given rich-2: yes, I'd say that is an immutable law of nature, Ron Ronald: :) jamesIII: my dad was here and was helping me sweep the driveway Daniel Bienvenu: I have to admit that I didn't find yet jamesIII: the only broom i had was really small. *really* small compared tot he driveway jamesIII: he asked if it was provided by public works Ronald: work..... that's a 4 letter word rich-2: OK james, the only word I'm not sure on (it WAS 60 years ago) is the city name jamesIII: only thing i get is "Monkey Due" but i don't think that's it Ronald: nope rich-2: it was by a California professor also known for his history of teh Donner party Ronald: brb rich-2: I guess Ron is busy Googling on the new clue Daniel Bienvenu: He wrote, "It may happen that small differences in the initial positions may lead to enormous differences in the final phenomena. Prediction becomes impossible." This is the statement which gives Poincare the claim to the title "Father of Chaos Theory." This is the first known published statement of the property now known as "sensitivity to initial conditions", which is one of the defining properties of a chaotic dynamical system. rich-2: neat pickup, Daniel - can you give us a date for that? jamesIII: so what happens if i sneeze? you all get to shovel your driveways? heh heh Daniel Bienvenu: French mathematician of the 19th century named Henri Poincaré rich-2: you got it, james - the currently popular paraphrase has to do with butterfly wings in teh Amazon Ronald: no, Diet Coke Time..... must resolve to keep my Diet coke and my computing devices on the same floor jamesIII: do like i did ron - get a little fridge rich-2: yes, that makes sense, Ron jamesIII: i have one in my study room BobS: time to go guys.....have to get up early in the am to shovel this "stuff" Ronald: yes jamesIII: not that much studying gets done here Ronald: good idea jamesIII: sorry bob, i sneezed too much BobS: yub, am felling zick Ronald: nite Bob.... say G'nite to Judy Daniel Bienvenu: It was natural for anyone with an inquiring mind to wonder what would happen if three or more bodies were allowed in the model. In fact, the question became so famous that a prize was offered for its solution and it was given a name -- "The Three Body Problem." Poincaré, being one of the preemminent mathematicians of the time, tried his hand at solving the Three Body Problem. Ironically, he ended up winning the prize by writing a paper showing that he could not solve it. BobS: :-) BobS: nite all jamesIII: granted, i'm not chinese, but i don't think the theory covers that :P
BobS left chat session jamesIII: so who was it, rich? rich-2: OK, take it easy, Bob; eldering gentlemen with heart problems are discouraged from snow shovelling for good reason Ronald: are we into the a"Game of Life"?? rich-2: clue three: he also wrote a famous book on popular anthropology, a history if US geographic naming jamesIII: totally off topic but i was watching discovery channel Ronald: and? rich-2: not to meniton an enduring science fiction classic, the history of a transcontinental highway, and other works jamesIII: and they said the tortoise that charles darwin encountered on the galapagos island jamesIII: is still alive Ronald: interesting rich-2: (whic is not beyond the bounds of possibility) jamesIII: when he encountered it, it was 5 years old and the year was 1835 jamesIII: said tortoise is now older than even rich jamesIII: by a good century, at that rich-2: but just barely!!! ;-) jamesIII: can you imagine living 175 years? Ronald: no jamesIII: wish i could. think of all the stuff you could see rich-2: well, tortoises are not noted for their speed at doing anything - even aging jamesIII: i'm going to have to cheat and find someway of using relativity rich-2: too high a risk of living in an interesting period of history jamesIII: my students never believe me when i tell them someday i could be younger than they are, though the odds aren't in my favour jamesIII: so who was it rich? i give up rich-2: George Rippey StewArt - book title "Storm" Ronald: in a parallel universe you are younger rich-2: and btw it was in print for ages so there are lots of copies still lying around cheap rich-2: good enough it's worht pursuing with abebooks or maybe Powell's jamesIII: ron, can i add "unmarried and having fun" to that? Ronald: yes jamesIII: score! rich-2: if you like science fiction his "Earth abides" is a classic Ronald: in a parallel universe I am a drummer Ronald: making money at it rich-2: only book I ever encountered that was reissued in hardcover after full saless in paperback rich-2: it was drawing over $25 US on the antiquarian market back when that was serious money Daniel Bienvenu: do you heard about the mutliverse theory? To resume this theory, our universe is probably a bubble in a set of bubbles. jamesIII: bubbles are fun rich-2: there are a lot of variations on that, Daniel, I believe jamesIII: i know,i sound so erudite when i say things like that Daniel Bienvenu: and because the bubbles are all together, all the bubbles are not round. Ronald: quantum physics vs unified field Ronald: string theory rich-2: just as we know that all we can sense are three dimensions but it takes several multiples of that to construct a universe like ours jamesIII: any of which make more sense than women Ronald: rotfl rich-2: ;-) Ronald: you cannot make sense of women Daniel Bienvenu: :-) Ronald: I gave it up as a bad job Daniel Bienvenu: do you think someone we know will read this discussion in the futur? Ronald: (Pam - READ THIS PART OF THE TRANSCRIPT) Ronald: yep jamesIII: well i might look it over next week, dan Ronald: Pam or Erin
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changed username to Harvie Daniel Bienvenu: harvie? Ronald: Hey Harvie. jamesIII: i'm coming back as ... jamesIII: hmm.. Harvie: Howdy all jamesIII: gotta think about that one jamesIII: maybe i'll come back as my own great-grandson jamesIII: and leave all my stuff i have now to me Ronald: oh oh.... a bend in the space-time continuum jamesIII: i just think i was born 100 years too early Ronald: no changing history now Ronald: I was born 25 years too late rich-2: hi Harvie, I was just offline sending a joke to Ron Ronald: good rich-2: it should be in his inbox any minute (hour? day?) Ronald: I like jokes Ronald: at some of them I even laugh Harvie: I had trouble earlier, the java applett wouldn't load jamesIII: i fixed a squeaky door today. wonder if i should get off my butt and do anything else before i teach rich-2: give this one a ty, then Ronald: This is a pentium 166.... give it an extra half hour rich-2: you'll note I've only been tossed twice tonight, Hrvie jamesIII: that's a real speed demon there Ronald: that's enough for one day James jamesIII: good. i don't want to raise people's expectations of me rich-2: I'm trying out Firefox jamesIII: firefox is nice Ronald: must do that. Hear good things about it Daniel Bienvenu: I'm using Firefox too. jamesIII: they have a japanse version Harvie: rich, are you still trying to get rid of the snow thrower? rich-2: let's say its different, but I've already discovered features I don't like jamesIII: i've been recommending it to clients that were buggered by spyware rich-2: yes Harvie jamesIII: really? what rich? Daniel Bienvenu: The only bug I experiment is when running flash applications, crash occurs. Ronald: Just removed Windoze XP from duron, and put on Fedora Linux Core 3 Ronald: my first Windoze Free box Daniel Bienvenu: I suspect an optimisation problem with macromedia plugin. rich-2: odd; the first download Mozilla recommends for it is Macromedia Flash plugin rich-2: have you seen opencd.sunsite.dk, Ron? Daniel Bienvenu: I sent two "bug report" to firefox. jamesIII: i might buy a mac next year Ronald: No Rich, have not been there rich-2: nice thing about open source; they want the challenge Ronald: will check it out jamesIII: this year i get daddy-in-law, the school and my car paid off. financial freedom is barely a year away Ronald: Can Gibsons be far behind? rich-2: by all means do, could deal with your software needs real quickly jamesIII: gotta save up for a few years before i make a downpayment on a house Daniel Bienvenu: I really like firefox. it's fast and need less memory. rich-2: Harvie, do you know someone who wants a snowblower? jamesIII: i'm looking to purchase in 2008 jamesIII: @rich, i bet bob does Harvie: Yes, my brother-in-law Ronald: not far away James rich-2: I'd be happier if I could synchronize the bookmarks with IE rich-2: and I don't like their scheme for editing bookmarks, either jamesIII: why use ie at all though? jamesIII: i haven't touched it, except when absolutely necessary, in years Daniel Bienvenu: I use IE only because WindowsUpdate works only with EI. jamesIII: @ron, not far away at all rich-2: Frances likes it better - she is used to it Harvie: rich, I'll call you tomorrow jamesIII: looking forward to getting through this year though. being in the black again will be nice rich-2: So where is your bro-in-law, Harvie? Harvie: Bolton Ronald: It's an achievement James rich-2: do so, Harvie, just not too early (as, before 11 am), OK? Harvie: Definitly not early :) jamesIII: my sister-in-law to be just bought an imac g5 jamesIII: very nice looking machine Ronald: they are indeed
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<undefined> changed username to rich-3 Ronald: most of us underlings are still G4 Daniel Bienvenu: hello "rich the third" jamesIII: if i do buy it though, i'll probably pull out all the stops and get the 20" model jamesIII: rich is catching up to me in incarnations Ronald: understand James rich-3: I am eyeing laptops right now jamesIII: i really think they should be teaching fiscal management in elementary school jamesIII: give the kids some play money, teach them about interest and how buying stuff on credit costs more in the long run Ronald: Richard the 2nd - off with his head rich-3: getting close to 15" screens and DVD burner for $1000 Ronald: good lesson James Ronald: only took me 55 years to learn it jamesIII: crts are facing extinction soon rich-3: but I will have fusses about the OS and ports too Harvie: I must go, just popped in to see if the applett would load, bye all, Happy New Year jamesIII: i have to admit, some of that has been the asian influence Ronald: be well Harvie jamesIII: unfortunately, credit is taking off here in a big way rich-3: happy new year, Harvie, hear from you tomorrow!
Harvie left chat session jamesIII: happy new year, harvie jamesIII: and you wouldn'T believe the interest rates Ronald: level of personal debt rising here to unprecedented jamesIII: 28%.. in a country where banks pay you literally 0.01% jamesIII: yeah, the problem needs to be addressed at a young age Ronald: exactly jamesIII: i never learned fiscal management in school. my wife apparently did rich-3: here most interest rates are very low - I think prme may be under 5% Ronald: GIC's get between 2 and 3.5 Ronald: whoopee jamesIII: i'm moving my stuff to medium volatility mutual funds rich-3: mind you, the credit card issuers do know how to charge (16% +) Ronald: yup jamesIII: risk is low and i get close to 6%. i'm young and earning well so i can afford some moderate risk Ronald: mutuals are a better bet Ronald: it there is anything that is a better bet Ronald: which I doubt jamesIII: could go as high as 9% but basially if it matches close to real estate appreciation in ottawa, i'll be happy knowing that rich-3: yes, we have a very diversified portfolio - no great amount in it, but risk well spread jamesIII: $250k worth of house dollars invested will buy $250k worth of house when i'm ready jamesIII: not that i have $250k! Ronald: our real-estate is doing better than that here Ronald: last year this house was assessed at 147500. This year it's 198300 rich-3: hell, our little bungalow would sell for almost twice that jamesIII: what isn't so good is that i've found out (too late) that real estate in japan isn'T liquid at all Ronald: well, this is Comox now jamesIII: wow Ronald: assessed value is always under market value jamesIII: so the school i have is mine forever. probably couldn't sell it if i wanted to and even then, i wouldn't get face value for it rich-3: they're calling the cross street "millionaire's row" because that's what it costs to buy in rich-3: the builders start by paying over 400K for a house to tear down jamesIII: a million isn't what it used to be, eh Ronald: nope Ronald: I'd want at least 10 million now - maybe 25 Ronald: to feel rich Daniel Bienvenu: I will have to say goodnight soon. Midnight is coming. jamesIII: you'd need that much to be considered so Ronald: nite Daniel.... jamesIII: dan, any new projects for this year?
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changed username to rich-4 Ronald: Richard the 4th Daniel Bienvenu: I'm planing to release a special 5th anniversary edition of dacman : my first coleco game released in cartridges. Ronald: did Shakespeare write that? rich-4: bounced again is it trying to tell me something?
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jamesIII confirmed ban Ronald: Kill Richard jamesIII: dan, are you going to expand on your mountain mining game.. forget what it's called Daniel Bienvenu: I received requests for dacman, a game I did during summer 2000. rich-4: maybe I should quite while I'm ahead - it's late in the Eastern time zone Daniel Bienvenu: John Dondzila released it during the CGE2K. Ronald: yess sir.... I will not feel slighted.... rich-4: think I will knock it off, folks - Ron, enjoy the joke Ronald: will go there now Ronald: I'mm away too guys... see ya's next week rich-4: james, do look at tht book - I suspect you might like it Ronald: ok Daniel Bienvenu: And also planing to finish the new coleco programming document with the bios source code. rich-4: Daniel, bonsoir Ronald: nite all Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit!
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