Dr. D.: Hi Richard rich-c: hi to you - how's things in Cleveland? Dr. D.: Cold, bit of snow, frozen rain from a few days ago makes my car door frozen shut sometimes.
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changed username to BobS Dr. D.: I am on the phone with Rin, she says hi. Dr. D.: Hi Bob. BobS: HELLO PRESTIGEOUS FELLOWS Dr. D.: Rin says hi to you too Bob. rich-c: yes, we had jammed locks too, even though I used de-icer and WD40 BobS: kinda lonely here tonight yes?????? rich-c: hello Roberto Dr. D.: I was just popping in for a bit, I am kinda beat. BobS: ice storm? rich-c: hardly, it's only seven minutes in BobS: we just kinda missed it all Dr. D.: Glad that Frances liked the flowers Rin sent. Dr. D.: She sent us a nice E-mail. rich-c: yes, seh was quite taken with them Dr. D.: Good for you Bob, we seem to have too, mostly. rich-c: she is having sleep problems and is quite depressed - the flowers were welcome BobS: we had about an inch and ahlaf of snow Mon am and Tues am, but that is about all Dr. D.: It was sunny some today, above freezing for a while. Dr. D.: Us too Bob. BobS: cold here, but sunny Dr. D.: Ground is still muddy and wet.
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changed username to Pamela Dr. D.: Hi Pam BobS: problems with Frances Richard??????? BobS: HI PAM rich-c: hi daughter BobS: he yells at the top of his lungs Pamela: Hi there Dr. D.: No problems Bob BobS: good Dr. D.: It was her birthday Saturday BobS: HAPPY BDAY FRANCES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rich-c: problems for her - she may have "caught" my sleep apnea Pamela: I don't think it's communicable, Dad : ) Dr. D.: Cultural transmission. BobS: Judy says [about sleep]...."welcome to my world".....good news you still live....... rich-c: it's making her quite miserable, but she has two doctor appointments in teh next seven days Dr. D.: In any case, I am on the phone with Rin, she says hi Pam, and I am going to turn in early. BobS: she takes a generic Restoral........and it works great.......and is inexpensive Pamela: tell her hi, Rich, and I'll talk to her over the weekend, and goodnight to you BobS: GOOD they should fix her up like new then Dr. D.: Nite all rich-c: tell Rin she should come on line and join us Dr. D.: Sorry I am a party pooper, but I am pooped, day started at 6 AM... BobS: HI RIN....hope she hears that.......and be good Richard BobS: nad get some sleep Dr. D.: She sounds more more pooped than me. rich-c: nite Rich BobS: thats Dr D............. Dr. D.: Nite all. Dr. D.: <poof>
Dr. D. left chat session BobS: uh uh,,,,,,,,he blew himself up BobS: our out rich-c: details don't matter, but Frances had a very bad night for sleeping last night, so has been miserable all day today Pamela: poor Mama BobS: bummer, BobS: need rest rich-c: it doesn't help that either the sleep doctor she has been talking to, nor the sleep clinic she is interested in, have been very fast to respond to her inquiries rich-c: the clinic is in the process of moving to new premises, but they still should answer Pamela: I gathe the Doc has to refer her to the sleep clinic Pamela: gather rich-c: but then so should the doctor rich-c: yes, for a sleep study you must be referred BobS: the wheels of medicine work WAY to slowly when you need them rich-c: that does seem to be a fairly universal truth BobS: sure seems to be that way when you need immediate or almost immediate relief Pamela: I wish I had some comforting words, Dad rich-c: well, you won't die of sleep apnea, but it can make your life miserable rich-c: worse, you often don't even realize what's wrong Pamela: btw Dad, what's the humidity like in the house? rich-c: oh, the humidity is fine - I'm getting "rainout" in my mask a couple of times a night BobS: :-) rich-c: even after turning the humidity control down from 4.0 to 2.5 Pamela: in the house Dad, not in the mask. I came home yesterday afternoon to an apartment that was 23 degrees and humidity of 21% - we were striking sparks off everything rich-c: get up with my face soaking - in fact I am going to have to take a break in a minute to wash my mask Pamela: when the weather gets cold, teh humidity drops like a stone rich-c: not if you have electric heat, Pam BobS: 23 DEGREES!!!!!! rich-c: you may have been too young to remember, but when we went from oil to gas the humidifier became surplus and got given away BobS: uh F or C ? Pamela: celcius, Bob BobS: thats better, had me worried for aminute rich-c: 23C is a little on teh warm side - our house is kept at 21 Pamela: it's even comfortable in the computer room this year - a nice change. We froze in here last year Pamela: remember, we have no control over our heat Dad Pamela: it's still better than the 28 we had at the old place Pamela: mid winter and we were sitting around in shorts and t-shirts rich-c: I know, and you have a spendthrift landlord - he could save a mint with a few energy conservation investments BobS: true true Richard Pamela: problem is, he'd have to spend a mint first rich-c: just storm windows, new refrigerators (and maybe stoves) would have an incredibly low payback time rich-c: I mean, those old windows are going to rust away very soon anyway Pamela: think about how much it would cost to replace all the windows in this joint Dad, and how difficult it would be to replace those on the upper floors BobS: tis true what you say sir.......but they are so busy sucking the life out of the property, they won't put any money into it BobS: got bosses just like that here rich-c: and the fridges are far past the MTBI for that type of appliance Pamela: our landlord is actually very good, Bob - complaints get addressed fairly quickly and things get fixed right away, or replaced rich-c: think about the BTUs of heat blasting out of them every second - BTUs he's paying for rich-c: he's practically accomplishing global warming on his own! BobS: that is GREAT, but he does need to think about capital improvements which would save alot of money in operating costs BobS: or he SHPULD rich-c: yes, that's why I can't understand why he won't protect and enhance his investment rich-c: he seems to be absolutely incredibly dumb on the subject Pamela: it's a big layout, Dad, there are 41 apartments in this building. Priced windows for the house recently? rich-c: anyway, can you two hold your own chat for about five minutes while I go rinse my machine? Pamela: understand, I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying - there are a lot of things he could be doing Pamela: however, I also understand his side of things rich-c: ever seen an energy audit on windows, Pam? rich-c: he is throwing big bills out of them in a constant stream rich-c: anyway, brb Pamela: shades of conversations past : ) BobS: ya mon Pamela: seems to me we used to have conversations like this when I was a teenager Pamela: some things never change. Did you have conversations like this with your kids, Bob? BobS: and it serves even true...er today Pam. A schrewd owner would surely be looking at the cost savings....IF he wants to make money Pamela: I'm not arguing the fact, but if you were to price out the cost of replacing the windows around here, I'm sure it would come to more than what he takes in in rent in a year. BobS: sometimes [most times] the best investment is to keep the property tip top and the rent and upkeep costs will reflect the quality and up the profits Pamela: I'm pretty sure that's not how much he's losing in energy costs BobS: he has to see the big picture and bite the bullet BobS: or he loses BobS: might be surprised what goes out in heat cost in a couple of years Pamela: it's an old building - built in the early 60's Pamela: plaster over concrete block and single glazed windows Pamela: outdated wiring
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changed username to Judy Judy: hi, everyone Pamela: but it's one of the most spacious places we've ever seen, and we have a good supply of hot water, heat and light BobS: OUCH sigle glazed windows BobS: THAT really hurts Pamela: Hi Judy - Dad's off doing something Judy: is it really cold up by your? Pamela: the floors are in excellent shape, and the landlord does repairs as soon as advised that there's a problem Pamela: our washers and dryers always work Pamela: we never get locked out of the garage Judy: that is something Pamela: we don't pay for heat, hot water or electricity Pamela: it's a pretty good deal Pamela: for $980 a month Judy: do you have A/c? Pamela: on the flip side, we don't have central air and are not allowed dishwashers, washers and/or dryers, or barbeques Judy: that is the pits. BobS: no dishwashers......... Pamela: we use window air conditioners Judy, two of them BobS: WHY NOT?????? Pamela: one in the bedroom and one in the living room Pamela: why not which, Bob? rich-c: baqck Judy: that does help BobS: the dishwahser Judy: hi, Rich BobS: ya know aht i mean rich-c: hi Judy, welcome aboard Pamela: the pipes won't take the extra load either drawing to fill, or draining Judy: thank you kind sir rich-c: we had Dr. D here earlier but he had to leave BobS: ok Pamela: I do sometimes have dreams of home ownership with all the amenities, but then I remember I'd have to cut my own grass and shovel my own snow Pamela: repair the roof Pamela: the furnace Judy: we are watching Deal or No Deal, do you have it there? Pamela: the a/c Pamela: yes, but are not watchers, Judy rich-c: and buy your own new roof whe it needs it, and be ready for other BIG unforseen expenses Judy: it is one of my favorite programs. rich-c: I have suspended my satellite service for Dec/Jan rich-c: see no point in wasting $90 on a tv I won't turn on Judy: it is on regular TN Judy: that is TV Pamela: sounds like Russell is watching Futurama rich-c: oh, antenna television? yes, we hae about 14 stations we can get that way, not all that good, though rich-c: but I only ever watch "real" football and motor racing, and Frances watches nothing Pamela: there is painting in my future - no TV for me this weekend Pamela: I really must get the bathroom finished BobS: you got tO EXPAND your horizons Richard BobS: did you get the floor fixed Pam ? rich-c: wonder where everyone is tonight? no francophones, no Ron or Harvie, no Guy... Pamela: not yet, we're waiting till Inky goes before we attempt that, Bob Pamela: and that's outside the bathroom BobS: ok rich-c: why? I have two newspapers and the internet for - well, just about everything Pamela: inside, after the last flood, the landlord came in right away and fixed all the plaster in the bathroom (see?) and primed it for us. rich-c: I have too much to do to spend my time watching tv BobS: why won't he paint the thign too ? Pamela: he offered, we turned him down Pamela: we wanted to take our time and pick a nice colour other than white Pamela: it's taken us a while to find the right colour Judy: Bob thinks that is the only color, well, off white rich-c: what shade do you have in mind, Pam? BobS: YES BobS: matches EVERYTHING rich-c: and flatters nothing ; - ) Judy: I agree!!!! Pamela: we have to contend with bathroom tiles that are "mocha" to use my sister-in-law's description. Not much goes with them. Oh, and the bullnose tiles are black BobS: yo got to have ACCENT stuff set around Pamela: my description? Dried mud brown. Pamela: so we picked a colour called "sunlit coral" rich-c: I know I'll be seeing it - but maybe I should wait Pamela: it was too pale, so we went back and had the paint guy tint it twice - same shade, just more intense. That should do the trick. Judy: sounds cool Pamela: in fact it was so pale, it looked white on teh wall unless you looked really closely BobS: oh......dark pink Pamela: nope, it's not pink rich-c: which direction did you tint it, Pam - yellow? orange? Pamela: coral Pamela: think of the inside of a conch shell Pamela: but really pale rich-c: uh - they tend to have a pink tinge, Pam Pamela: wait, you'll see Dad rich-c: that a promise or a threat? ; - ) Pamela: threat : ) Pamela: anyway, it's a colour which is flattering to all skin types, and one of the few that will go with teh tile rich-c: thought so ,| : - )) BobS: COOL conch !!!!! Pamela: BTW we replaced our shower curtain recently, Judy -went from dark forest green to a clear, translucent curtain with a green leaf print rich-c: oh - I am back on the desktop computer, have it running well enough for this purpose Pamela: amazing how much brighter it is in there now Judy: I bet it does rich-c: yes, inside bathrooms can get AWFULLY dark, especially at this time of year Pamela: i can actually see in the shower now! : ) BobS: I would think so Pamela: I do not like showering in the dark BobS: AH HA watch that Russell guy huh ???? ;-) Judy: sometimes you have turn on a light rich-c: not necessarily, Bob, there's no window and it's down a hall BobS: oh well Pamela: there's a window in the bathroom Dad - it's over the shower Judy: not a good place for a window rich-c: really? I never noticed it was there rich-c: but then I don't go into bathrooms to inspect the showers - except my own Judy: because you don' t take showers there Pamela: actually it's not too bad, Judy - it's only in really cold weather that it gets chilly in there. During the summer it's great - it's high up on the wall, above my head rich-c: never noticed any light coming in through it, that's for sure Pamela: that might have something to do with the fact that you're usually here in the evening, in the winter, Dad rich-c: the thught had occurred to me, as it happens ;-)
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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Greetings!!!! Pamela: hello, Guy rich-c: hello Guy, Chicago thawed out yet? Judy: hi, Guy BobS: yi Guy Guy B.: Freezing right now. We missed the big snow over the weekend. Got less than an inch. BobS: yo Guy......that better BobS: get any ice ? BobS: we had a lttle bit, but south of us they got about a half inch rich-c: yes, wse just got the edge of the storm too, about four inches total but crisped right down Pamela: we got the ice, Bob - had to chip my way into the car on Monday afternoon rich-c: snow cover but driving and walking wre easy Guy B.: Had some sleet on Saturday night, but we missed the ice. rich-c: toook me over half an hour to de-ice teh van - forget I had a deicer spray in it!
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changed username to Daniel B Daniel B: bonsoir Daniel B: sorry to be late tonight Pamela: hi Daniel Guy B.: Hi Daniel rich-c: bonsoir, Daniel - comment ca va? Daniel B: ca va bien Judy: hi, Daniel BobS: Hiya Daniel rich-c: what's going on at the job these days? BobS: and you should be SORRY mon BobS: we were all lonesome for you BobS: we were about the start wiping our eyes and crying !!! <grin> Pamela: your nose is growing, Slopsema Pamela: : ) Judy: I had my first interview today Pamela: tell all, Judy rich-c: ah - what sort of job, Judy? Daniel B: Actually, it's not a rush, and I'm still at work tonight rich-c: you are sure putting in an awful lot of overtime, Daniel Judy: have to go for a second interview, I guess Pamela: that's good! rich-c: well, if you made it through teh first screening, that in itself is a good sign Pamela: what job, and with whom, etc. ? Judy: don't know if I even want the job, part time, 9-2 Mon- Fri Judy: receptionist, Sec for a landscaper in Jenison BobS: ON the opposite side of town rich-c: having the afternoon free can be enticing, I would think - though part work means part pay of course Pamela: sounds interesting Pamela: PT all the time, or only in the winter? BobS: might just be BobS: or summer........... Judy: all the time Daniel B: I have so many things in my planning for my hobby (coleco programming) but I feel it's better for me to stop programming after work. rich-c: I'd expect a landscape outfit to need full time in the summer Judy: not in the office, BobS: you'd logically think it would be asummer type job only rich-c: well, it's really a different kind of programming, Daniel rich-c: sort of like a truck driver rallying his own car in his time off Daniel B: do you think I lost interrest in Coleco programming or it's normal to just want to relax after work? Judy: they have the books done for them Pamela: what's not in the office Judy - the job? rich-c: you can only do the same kind of work for so long - depends on how similar the two are Pamela: I'm confused Judy: would be for invoices and answering the phone but some of the time would be on the road with the boss rich-c: and you do need some variety in your life, Daniel - read a book, go to a movie, hit the pub... Pamela: even more interesting Judy: making bids on future jobs Judy: have to work on excell before the next interview rich-c: have you used it before, Judy? if so, much? Judy: Bob did get an offer this week Judy: not at all Pamela: and how do they want you to use it? I'm assuming for things other than actual accounting rich-c: hey, neat - was it worth looking at? Judy: making the bids rich-c: any experience with other spreadsheets? Judy: right in the truck with a laptop Daniel B: my life in front of the computer... 22 years in front of my computer at home and at work... I think I need a break. BobS: one not so good,l the other what I want......but not offered yet....wait till next week Judy: yes, adamcalc Pamela: what are your offers, Bob? Pamela: Judy, get a good book on Excel, like the Dummies series, and practice the basics. Daniel B: When can I excepted more details about the Adamcon this year? rich-c: Daniel, go to carnuts.us (you do not have to sign in) and look at the avatar I am using in my postings - you will like it Pamela: and ask Meeka, she probably has some experience with it Judy: Meeka gave me the cd on it Pamela: good BobS: maintenance at an apt project, but for 20% less than i really want and what was initially offered......the other a maintenance supervisor job at a retirement home WANT THAT but not offered...yet rich-c: going by Frances' expereince, if you've used Adamcalc the learning curve for any otehrs is no longer that steep Pamela: that's great news, Bob Judy: she doesn't use it much so don't know how much help she will be rich-c: either way you are qualified and should be able to do the job well - good to hear you did get something going BobS: apt job was offered, then they called back and said....oops we goofed and we can offer you only 20% LESS BobS: bad vibes man rich-c: they try to make them intuitive, Judy - but that's a rather elastic term... Pamela: hit the bookstore, Judy - the Dummies books are very useful BobS: and how do I rationalize the lower offer, regardless if the 1st one was wrong Judy: have been using AdamCalc for years on our antique business rich-c: yes, that does not suggest teh best karma, Bob Pamela: did you ask for an explanation of the reduction, Bob? rich-c: sounds like they are games players - shake hands, but count your fingers... Judy: I will look into that Pam, thanks BobS: I am countering by putting tegether a package of pics showing my work and license, along with a letter explaining WHY I am worth more and giving them ano offer $1 less that the first one they sthrew out rich-c: wonder if they have a little management conflict - person you first dealt with got overruled? BobS: I will deliver it tomorrow, tell them I will call them late next week.......that gives me the option to wait for the job I want BobS: GOOD point Richard Pamela: most spreadsheets are basically the same Judy, so you should be able to transfer your experience over without too much difficulty rich-c: Daniel, last we heard your company was moving to Montreal - what is going on now? Daniel B: I'm trying to find your avatar rich... I'm not a good detective Pamela: Guy, do you use Excel and have any words of wisdom for Judy? rich-c: go to open discussion, item o transience of power - that has it Daniel B: no news about that. all I know it's march the deadline for the location of the space here. Judy: we were thinking of doing that anyway so maybe I will do that sooner rather than later Guy B.: Use Excel 2003 at work. Pamela: I use it every day Judy, but not for it's intended purpose for the most part Guy B.: But, I use OpenOffice Calc on all my PC's here. rich-c: are they now considering new space in Quebec City, or will they consolidate in Montreal? Pamela: I use it more for making lists Judy: we will be going to the bookstore tomorrow rich-c: yes, a good spreadsheet also makes a pretty functinal database for many purposes Guy B.: It's good to use as a database. I use it to keep track of what semi annual reports I have discrepancies on. Daniel B: we are waiting after a decision from Montreal. it's a big stress for me to not know what is the final plan for Quebec BobS: so it kinda like a marriage of ADAM Calc and SmartFiler ????? rich-c: in its time, Adamcalc was an award winner - Frances says desevedly so Pamela: anyway, it's a continuous learning curve Judy - been using Excel and before that Lotus 1-2-3 for years, and I'm still discovering new things every day rich-c: yes, because you also have to see if they would pay you enough to make a move to Montreal viable Daniel B: Well, I think you, satelite from space, have a nice avatar ;-) BobS: We love it for what it is.....it has drawbacks, like importing and exporting.......or we haven't really tried maybe....... Judy: will try it out Guy B.: 123 is still around, but part of the Lotus Suite. I don't think IBM is selling that anymore. rich-c: trust you noticed the location and signiture line too... I thought them kind of funny Pamela: and that's too bad - Lotus is the better product, IMHO Daniel B: I may finish like the man in the picture BobS: got Lotus 123 in the basement BobS: never looked inside the case though BobS: picked it up at the office one time Pamela: what release, Bob? rich-c: with all my crashes of late (see Broken Windows in Computers) so do I - in sapdes! BobS: who knows.......do yo REALLY want to know????? BobS: I can check if important Pamela: just mildly curious rich-c: yes, I have the Lotus suite - fairly recent - kicking about somewhere Pamela: no big Judy: maybe I will have to learn both rich-c: time for me to go fetch my beer - brb Judy: Bob went down to check it out Pamela: he didn't have to do that : ) Pamela: I was just curious Judy: needed the exercise Daniel B: what is Redmond ? Pamela: well, then : ) Judy: don't tell him I said that!!!! Pamela: LOL - I won't Judy: he has 1.1 and 2.2 Pamela: oh wow, those are old Pamela: probably won't do you much good rich-c: that is where the head office of Microsoft is located - Redmond, Washington state, up by Seattle Daniel B: Redmond Rhythm? ... is it a reference to Redmond (Washington) where Microsoft is? BobS: the original is for XT Daniel B: ok, I have my answer BobS: should throw them away or sell on Ebay as collector items ?? Pamela: the latter, I think Bob : ) Pamela: I think those actually pre-date WYSIWIG menus rich-c: ah, considering teh age of the computers you use, it's still likely current for them ; - ) Guy B.: Sell it Bob BobS: might try that......got 1 different WordPerfect boxes dow there too BobS: yo got that Richard Judy: he is getting a new one soon BobS: and wht is wrong with broken in computers ?????? rich-c: right now Frances is playing Jezzball - part of a game set we had on the origina 386-16 under Win3.1 Pamela: absolutely nothing (she says, from her very broken (in) computer) BobS: BUT asm going to upgrade soon....WAY UP.....1 gig machine w/ XP BobS: only reason is to get aclimated to the new systems as I possible venture into computer use full time rich-c: you should read my carnuts threadd that Daniel is looking at now - you might want to rethink BobS: new job description Daniel B: Do you know where I may find video of Bits & Byte? in french it was Octo-Puce http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopuce rich-c: and for heaven's sake don't even LOOK at Vista BobS: Vista still in test stage I understand form Doug BobS: but it will come whether we like it or not rich-c: it will be out retail on Jan. 30th Daniel B: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bits_and_Bytes rich-c: I get a tech newslatter and man, are they down on it - rally appalled Pamela: Hub gave it a rather good review if I remember correctly Dad BobS: kids are pushing me to go computer.......took test online for certification and passed w/ flying colors Pamela: surprise, surprise BobS: BUT I feel that I need some classes before I get the certification, jsut so I feel I know what I need to know Judy: that is what I have been telling him rich-c: did I send you the clip of the newsletter, Pam? rich-c: what sort of certification would you be going for, Bob? BobS: CompTIA A+ BobS: baseline for hardware and software BobS: and possible networking rich-c: got an English translation of that? Pamela: Dad, I think you did but I also think it got deleted - can you send it again? BobS: see above 10 lines rich-c: yes, though it may take me a bit, it's in my webmail at canada.com Pamela: did you send it to Tamco or my g-mail account? Daniel B: how many of you are using a notebook computer? rich-c: likely to Tamco BobS: me Pamela: not here yet, Daniel - although we have plans BobS: Judy Judy: me Pamela: darn rich-c: I have an Acer AMD Sempron 2800 BobS: Pam not I assume from that remark Pamela: no, to Dad, Bob BobS: laptop or desktop tower Daniel B: During the Adamcon, I had the feeling to be the only one without a notebook computer. rich-c: why do you ask? BobS: AHSO Pamela: re: deleted article Pamela: re: laptop, we plan to get one soon BobS: ah older laptops are cheap Daniel and quite funtional Judy: we have several Pamela: be right back folks BobS: Judy and I are using P2 266mhz now, but have P1 166mhz which do just fine using the DSL we have rich-c: here used laptops are a bad buy - very overpriced, very deficient in capabilities BobS: Ebay mon BobS: find on in Canada so the shipping is cheaper and no border hassles rich-c: that has problems for Canadians, Bob - damn Yanks won't sell to anyone outside the lower 48 Daniel B: I have one now, it's a Toshiba Satellite : Intel Celeron M, with Windows Media Center. Daniel B: well, I have it since november last year rich-c: still haven't figured out that VISA is VISA no matter where you're using it from BobS: Doug is buying 1.8ghz machines w/ 1 gig ram and Xp for like...........$385 US shipped to his door......on Ebay rich-c: the Celeron is not the top chip, but for what you're doing you still likely have far more computer than you need, Daniel rich-c: fine - try to get teh same thing shipped to Toronto and see how far you get BobS: Doug swears by Toshiba, that is all we have, save for a free P1 133mhz laptop we have Guy B.: My Dell has a Celeron M processor. Daniel B: my notebook is running on Windows... and yours? BobS: so what Doug says.....we do BobS: Win 98SE BobS: is there anything better ??????? BobS: probably not Judy: he is the computer MAN BobS: it gets us from ....here.....to......there rich-c: here the competitive new ones are HP/Compaq, Acer, Toshiba, MDG (Local, but best selling), Dell trying to keep up rich-c: mine is on XP - you know my feeling on that, but it came installed (and is still showing bit rot, I suspect) Daniel B: any ibook? mac notebook? Pamela: our ancient laptop is a P1 rich-c: no, that's Dr. D's department, and Ron's BobS: works fine Pam as long as it works Pamela: Russell uses it to play very old games and it's held together with duct tape BobS: now that sounds like Dale Pamela: the screen is going - top third has lines through it rich-c: trade it in on a P2, Pam - see what's on offer on craigslist BobS: on the WAY out my dear Daniel B: err... off topic... what is the name of Dale's brother? I forgot... rich-c: Neil Pamela: no thanks, I'm going with new as soon as I can Pamela: desktop first, then laptop BobS: keep about 2-3 years behind new Pam, and you will be fairly current and a lot cheaper rich-c: right now the new sellers are pushing top of the line - nothing under a kilobuck advertised of late Daniel B: ok, Neil is the one I need to contact for possible picture of the CES and/or Coleco Industries, and also the one who manage for the Adamcon this year... BobS: waht we paid $225 for about 4 yrs ago is worth about $35 today BobS: but they still cruise the net fine and work great rich-c: don't think that's too good advice in today's market, Bon - too many new technologies BobS: and you can't hurt them anymore, even the grandkids rich-c: the flip side is you buy Blu-Ray and USB 2,0 and PCI-e and stuff and by March it's obsolete - useless technology Judy: depends on what you are going to do with it Daniel B: what is the tendency about the price (rate?) for a stay during the Adamcon meeting? Pamela: usually about $350 american, Daniel Daniel B: that is for one room, for one person? Pamela: no, double occupancy Pamela: ie two people in a room rich-c: Gatineau shouldn't be too pricey, Daniel, and I suspect Neil knows it well enough to find a good deal Daniel B: 2 people in a room, ok Pamela: so that's about $400 canadian rich-c: maybe Guy Foster will be willing to share with you - doubt his wife will be coming Pamela: at today's rates of .85 on the dollar rich-c: might be room rates will be a little better, Pam rich-c: American tourist trade may drop sharply with teh new passport rules Daniel B: I may convince more persons to be there also... depending on the final price. rich-c: the hotels and motels might find themselves geting kinda hungry Pamela: well, Canadian hotel rates seem to be a bit higher than US and with the exchange, I figure that's a good guess rich-c: rates vary regionally, and with demand, but yes, here they do tend to be higher even allowing for exchange rich-c: and our food proces tend to run higher, too Daniel B: Do you think we can talk again about the Adamcon meeting next time? or it's too soon? rich-c: still, when a hotelier is hungry, he wil negotiate Pamela: what else do you want to know, Daniel? rich-c: we can talk about anything Adam anytime here, Daniel - but information can be not yet avaialble sometimes Daniel B: a possible starting date, at least the month, and also where. Pamela: Probably in July or August, and somewhere in Gatineau / Hull, because Neil is running it this year rich-c: assume July, likely middle, likely nominally Ottawa, actually Gatieau Pamela: it will not be over the August civic holiday weekend Pamela: and not Pamela: Canada Day weekend either Daniel B: so, july-august, ottawa-hull... and about 400$ per room for two people... well, that's enough info for now. rich-c: likely, it will be the same week as the Molson Indy here {{ : - 0 Pamela: the convention rate usually covers Thursday - Sunday hotel plus breakfast and the banquet, Daniel rich-c: that's per person, double occupancy, Daniel Pamela: we will have to buy lunch and dinners ourselves rich-c: well, lunch can be a variable - depends on the organizers Daniel B: I think I remember this part of the Adamcon ;-) Guy B.: Neil hasn't mentioned anything yet on the dates for AC19 rich-c: Dale and Neil have had some organizing experience, though they are not strong on some aspects still Pamela: still, those are a good bet for dates, Guy - mostly to work around those who have kids Pamela: and those who are teaching, such as Dr. D rich-c: he's made general remarks, but nothing specific - has to hear from Dr. D. and Ron, amlng other things Daniel B: well, it's time to say "bonsoir"... I have to go back home and it's very cold outside tonight. Guy B.: Ok, I won't be setting my dates until May, so I hope he will have some dates by then. Pamela: okay, safe trip home, Daniel. Stay warm! rich-c: yes, it's really icy here too, Daniel - bonne nuit, et a la prochaine Pamela: I hope we get info before then, Guy - I have to set mine by the end of March Guy B.: Ok, folks. I'm going to go. See you all next week. Pamela: goodnight Guy! rich-c: night, Guy - see you then BobS: goodnight Daniel........STAY warm Daniel B: bonne nuit Guy Pamela: (PRIVATE) hugs to you Daniel B: bonne nuit à tous! Daniel B: * p o o f * Guy B.: (PRIVATE) Me too and one critter does to Guy B.: Poof
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