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changed username to BobS BobS: hello all
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changed username to Dr. D. BobS: hey doc BobS: how is??????? Dr. D.: cold Dr. D.: snowy Dr. D.: been shovelling 5 hours the last 2 days Dr. D.: about to fall asleep BobS: oh yuea. forgot aobout you and the Cleveland snow........ BobS: how much did you get so far? Dr. D.: about a foot BobS: ouch Dr. D.: I helped the girls shovel the drive at the house last night while Joan was at work. Dr. D.: I shovelled out my car on the street today. BobS: BUT last weekend...um....weekend before last, we had what they called th eblizzard of 2007
moved to room Meeting Place BobS: was not bad we didn't think, but had about a foot of lake effect, blowing and drifting, and cold BobS: need snowblower
changed username to Frances BobS: or......... Dr. D.: Hi Frances, an update on Richard? Dr. D.: Cynthia said he was ailing again :-( BobS: ailing GOOD. BobS: well bad...... BobS: you know what I mean Frances: Well, he's in the hospital with infections in both legs BobS: oh YUCK BobS: when did he go in? how long stay there? BobS: can you get up to hospital? Frances: Bear with me, this is complicated Frances: He has a compression fracture of a vertebra in the lumbar region Frances: He couldn't walk - too painful. Frances: Because of that he wasn't exercising his legs and they began to swell Frances: his doctor sent a homecare nurse to wrap them in tensor bandages to try to force out the excess fluid
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changed username to Judy Frances: She did this for 4 days, up to the weekend and used one that would supposedly last until Monday Judy: Hello, everyone Dr. D.: I guess they didn't give him a diuretic because of his heart problems? Dr. D.: Hi Judy Frances: Unfortunately, they became too painful and I removed them on Sunday Frances: On Monday morning, the nurse looked at the legs and said he should go to the hospital to treat them because they were beginning to weep and ooze Judy: tell him we are thinking of him Frances: So we sat in the ER for 7 hours while he got worse and worse Judy: that is awful!!!!! BobS: figures, that is what happens here also Frances: By the evening, he had a fever and was incoherent and one spot on his leg was obviously breaking down BobS: ER................."exagerated resistance" to teratment Frances: I was at the hospital yesterdAy and he is in isolation Judy: that sounds very serious Dr. D.: Any idea how long he will be in? Frances: He had been moved around a lot yesterday morning and was in a lot of pain Dr. D.: My next planned trip to Toronto isn't for 3 more weeks yet :-( Frances: So, the hospital is using a diuretic to move the water out Dr. D.: Sigh should have been first step Frances: Anyway, his legs look awful and even after the infection is controlled, it is going to take quite a while for them to heal Dr. D.: All the prednisone he has had, his connective tissue is very fragile, the leg squeezing bandages were bound to cause damage...and once infection started, impaired circulation from the pressure... Frances: Actually, Rich, he has been taking lasix for quite a while BobS: I believe that Frances...............I have an aunt who is dealing with that, and healing is not real fast Dr. D.: And it didn't work? BobS: but time will heal it Frances: No, it didn't work Dr. D.: That is very unusual, Lasix usually creates copious urine... Frances: But Rich you are right about the prednisone and all Dr. D.: very fast Dr. D.: I think I would have elevated his legs before wrapping them up Frances: Remember that he has been almost immobile for almost 2 weeks because of the fracture Dr. D.: But I am not an M.D. Dr. D.: What vertebra is it, and what part of the vertebra, do you know? Frances: Rich, he couldn't lie down Frances: It's in the lumbar region, don't know the number Dr. D.: So he sat upright or reclined in the chair, I guess. Frances: yes
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changed username to Roberto Frances: he slept in my folding garden chair in the living room
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Dr. D. confirmed ban Frances: And he got around on one of our wheeled office chairs Dr. D.: I was just curious what part of the vertebra it was, there are several sites for fractures possible. Frances: our house is too small for a wheel chair Dr. D.: Is he going to have to have surgery on his back? Frances: I don't know Dr. D.: He is a poor candidate with all the prednisone in him. Frances: I do know that he can't come home until he can walk and I don't know what the hospital will do about that Dr. D.: Healing anything is going to be very slow at this point. Dr. D.: sigh Frances: I know and I'm sort of hoping that the back will heal before the legs, if follow me Dr. D.: he may be looking at a long-term care facility. Frances: if you follow me Roberto: he is gonna be in hospital for awhile.....got to get the hosptial address and room to the adam mailing list so we can send him cards Dr. D.: Back may not heal without bracing...or spinal fusion, depends where it is in the vertebra. Frances: I didn't go to the hospital today because it snowed last night and this morning and I didn't think I could cope Roberto: good choice Frances......how much did you get???? Dr. D.: Is Pam there? has she been able to visit the hospital today? Roberto: we know the storm was headed your way Judy: did you get much snow? Dr. D.: Rin says about a foot, or more.
Roberto changed username to BobS Frances: I spoke to his nurse who could only say that he thought Richard was a little more comfortable today Dr. D.: We got over a foot in Cleveland. BobS: we all know the feeling with that much snow....NONT GOOD Frances: but that wouldn't be hard - yesterday was a hard day
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changed username to Pamela Dr. D.: Bur driving between here and Toronto is pretty well impossible...2 feet in Ashtabula, Christina says Erie PA is buried, shudder to think what I-90 through NY and Buffalo are like. Frances: Yes, Pam went to the hospital on Monday evening Judy: we can't take much more snow around here the banks are getting to high Pamela: hi there BobS: hey Pammie Frances: We really don't have that much Frances: Pam said she had no real trouble but I'm too old to tackle snow storms Judy: we had some schools closed again today just south of us, it is where Sher lives Judy: hi Pam Pamela: actually, traffic was sparse today to begin with - I think the threat of snow scared many people into staying home Frances: Toronto is not usually a snowy city - n ot like Buffalo - or Cleveland BobS: a WISE decision Frances.......OR you can have the bed next to Richard......with a broken bone Pamela: and the roads weren't that bad for driving - it was slow, but not difficult Pamela: lord, don't even suggest it, Bob - one parent in the hospital is enough Frances: yah, one invalid around here is enough BobS: BUT not a place for anyone over 60yrs old to be sure Frances: he was still in the ER this afternoon but he will be moved as soon as there is an isolation room Judy: that is what Mom did when dad was in the hospital, the roads were so bad BobS: stay safe and stay home Frances BobS: let us yong un's lilke me and Pam drive BobS: we LOVE it Pamela: heck, I'm even playing taxi for others : ) BobS: right Pam?????????? right? righta? Frances: oh, I'm going tomorrow - roads have been plowed, my snow clearing fellow did is job, the sidewalks will be cleared overnight Pamela: by the way, Mom, I meant to ask you - does Clive shovel, snow blow or plow? Frances: snow blow and shovel Pamela: ah Judy: how do you get there, Francis? Frances: bus Dr. D.: Well I am going to turn in, a bit achey from the shovelling today...if you can get me Richard's address in hospital, I will write him. Frances: the hospital is relatively close but requires 2 buses Dr. D.: Assuming he will be there long enough for a letter from down here to get there. Pamela: Rich, you'll tell Erin? Dr. D.: I will. BobS: fer sure Dr D Pamela: thank you Judy: Night Dr D see you next week Frances: actually, I think Cynthia did Dr. D.: Good night all. Pamela: goodnight, and sleep well Rich Dr. D.: <poof> Frances: good night, Rich BobS: but we have FAST mail you know, it only took 8 days to get Judy's new computert here from California
Dr. D. left chat session BobS: ONLY 8 days......can you believe??????? Pamela: it's the overnights that get to me Frances: I am assuming that he will be in the hospital for quite a while BobS: would think os BobS: so Frances: when I know what's happening, I'll let you know Pamela: I don't know what they would make of mail for a patient at the hospital BobS: can't ship him to a long term healing facility until the back and leg wounds are healed Pamela: not sure it's been done : ) BobS: WHAT ??????? no mail in the hospital??????? you got to gwet modernized Pam Frances: offhand, I can't think where else he might go Judy: oh, I think they would know what to do with it BobS: Canada has to come out of the dark ages Pamela: if they could find him : ) BobS: well.........he might be hiding under the bed.......true Frances: in this case, agreed Bob Judy: don't they get moved to a rest home, that is what would happen here Frances: Judy, I'm not sure what the options are Pamela: I have no idea BobS: the hospital got a website???????? Pamela: BRB Frances: yes Frances: but it's no help BobS: and it would be??????.........or the hospital name????? Frances: hospital name? - it's Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre Frances: It's a big regional hospital with all the bells and whistles for urgent care but in Richard's case, I don't know
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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Greetings from snowy Chicago! Pamela: Hi, Guy Pamela: we seem to have lost Mom
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changed username to Frances Judy: Hi, Guy welcome Pamela: must have found Dad's magical button : ) Guy B.: HI Frances. How's Rich doing? Frances: Not well, Guy Guy B.: Oh boy. More problems with his back? Frances: He has a spinal compression fracture and infections in both legs Frances: He's in the hospital - since Monday Pamela: I'll be back shortly folks, gonna go say goodnight to my hubby Guy B.: Ok Pam. Judy: say bye for us Frances: was it only me that got dumped? Guy B.: What are the doctors going to try on him? Judy: yes, it was, weren't you lucky Frances: antibiotics, first of all Guy B.: Can he walk?
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changed username to Ron Frances: Evening, Ron Ron: Hello all! Ron: Hows Rich? Guy B.: I bet he is feeling very frustrated Frances: WE got the storm this time Guy B.: Ah, the Vista man Guy B.: We got hit with 9 inches of snow. Ron: Vista's to the left of me, Vista's to the right of me, but this is a Mac Frances: Actually, Guy, he is too doped up to feel anything Guy B.: Ah, you're right at home now. Ron: yup Frances: Hamilton, just to west of us got a foot of snow Ron: winter is only about 3 months late Frances: and the south sore of both Erie and Ontario are buried Judy: Hi, Ron Guy B.: The rest will help him right now and I hope he will get better soon. We are all concerned about him. BobS: we skinned out of this one also kids......about 2 inches and some drifting BobS: you got some winter also Ron? Guy B.: You want our snow? You can have all you want of it. BobS: got too much already Guy Frances: I was looking at NOAA's Buffalo site today and they say that the cold weather is going to recede nxt week Guy B.: Well, this is the payback we get for having a mild December and January. But, warmer weather is coming by the weekend and 30's next week. Frances: Bob, for once you were on the good side for lake effect snow Ron: no, not here.... just fog and rain (the usual stuff) but it's bitter out there today. Frances: It was -13C yesterday but I had on so many clothes that I was fine Guy B.: Annie just loves romping in the snow. She and her girlfriend Urlacher. Were playing in the snow by Jeanene's apartment. Pamela: Hi, Ron Ron: Hi Pamela. How are ya? Pamela: Russell has headed out Guy B.: Urlacher is a German Sheperd mix and similar to Annie. Pamela: It's been a rough few weeks Ron Ron: Yes it has BobS: yes, Frances..........this time Frances: just looked at the thermometer - it is -16C - almost 0 F Pamela: I missed last week's chat by the way, because I fell asleep on the sofa at 9:30 Guy B.: This has been a real cold and snowy month so far for me. Pamela: at 10:15 I said this is ridiculous and went to bed Pamela: this has been our first real, stick the the ground snowfall Frances: no, it's our first substantial snow BobS: then you are due Pam........tis about our twelfth BobS: sick of it we are......... Pamela: I think everyone panicked this morning - the roads were empty Judy: are snow banks are getting way to high Pamela: they were plowing the compound lot when I got to work this morning - looks like they're building us our own little toboggan hill : ) BobS: so Ron....did you get the skinny on Richard ?????? BobS: or not Ron: No I did not BobS: readers digest version BobS: in hopsital, ope leg sores, bad back, stayin awhile Frances: Richard has a compression fracture of a vertebra BobS: SICK Ron: doesn't sound good Frances: and open, infected sores on his legs Pamela: heck, that's not the readers digest version, that's the text message version : ) Frances: he's in Sunnybrook since Monday BobS: ok smart aleck Judy: it works BobS: I was gettin carpel tunnel Pamela: whoops, lost mom again Pamela: and Guy
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changed username to Frances BobS: jump back in Frances BobS: WB Ron: I'm runing two chats here simultaneously. Will probably self destruct at any moment Judy: that was a quick trip Frances: I'm here but I lose all the messages BobS: must be the street they live on, Richard is alwasy having that trouble too Pamela: you didn't miss anything, Mom Ron: we were quiet Pamela: I think you've found Dad's magic poof button, Mom
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changed username to Annie Frances: the computer has it in for me BobS: HA guy's back
Annie changed username to Guy B. BobS: no tis your street Frances Pamela: I have this picture, Ron, of you self destructing like Squishem Sam - lots of shivers and confetti : ))) Guy B.: Ok, I'm back. System unexpectly rebooted on me. Frances: going to make you all jealous and get some chocolate - I think I deserve it Ron: Tried phoning Neil Wick again today. No ans. Left a message on his machine Ron: Yeah, Pam that's about it BobS: YOU DO BobS: Squish em........SAM Pamela: Mom, remind me - I have some chocolate for you in my purse and it's divine Guy B.: Yeah, I hope he knows the dates soon. Got to apply for a passport soon. Ron: Right brain = North Island Linux User group, left brain = Adam Chat Ron: Mac will run two screens at once BobS: apply NOW Pamela: do it now, Guy - don't wait BobS: dont' need travel dates Ron: yes, I suggest pasport app should go right away Pamela: wait times on this side of the border are six - eight weeks BobS: OR yesterday Pamela: and that's if you apply in person BobS: about a month to 6 weeks here Pamela: glad we're staying in Canada this year Frances: we got ours in JUne '05 and it took 5 days! Pamela: but yes, I'd like dates for the con too - I'm supposed to have my vacation schedule in by the end of the month Pamela: as always Mom, your timing is impeccable Guy B.: I'll get it done next month. My old expired back in the 80's when I went to Europe. Pamela: Guy, be careful with taking Annie out in this weather - not more than ten minutes BobS: hope you stillhave it Guy........OR don't tell them you had one at all Frances: We expected a lot longer but they were very efficient - then Ron: (phone rings-somebody looking for charitable donation) BobS: they get really hostile if you tell them you threw it away Guy B.: She wears a jacket before we go out. Judy: Bob has some news, you should ask him Pamela: (Ron ignores phone) Ron: ya Pamela: Bob??? BobS: TIS I BobS: or me......... Pamela: what news?? Guy B.: It's been more than 15 years and I still have it. But, I cannot renew it. So, I have to appy for a new one. BobS: got a part time afternoon job at a retiremtne village Ron: ALL RIGHT!! Pamela: is this the one you wanted to hear back from? Ron: super news Bob Judy: he will be starting Monday Guy B.: Alright Bob. Doing what? Frances: That's good, Bob BobS: right Guy, but it is easier to renew when you send in the old aone with the new app and maybe cheaper BobS: maintenance Ron: brb Pamela: it's great news BobS: 23 hours per week Guy B.: I downloade the form, so I'll print it out and see what is needed. Judy: we think so, too Pamela: (Ron's brain short circuits) BobS: will fill in the void left when unemployment ran out last week Pamela: I'm so glad to hear that Frances: why not full time? Judy: and may turn to full time BobS: and how hard can the work be???????? [hope not too hard, I am old] Guy B.: It's a start. BobS: only authorized for apart time hours right now, hope it can turn into full time though Judy: now I need on e I am going to go nuts being all alone all day Frances: I don't know, Bob. My parents lived in a retirement residence and the maintenance guys did everything Guy B.: Close to your house? Frances: And they were good, too Pamela: keep looking Judy, something will come along Judy: this is a fairly new building only about 5 years old BobS: about a mile away, five year old complex........... Pamela: what are your hours going to be Bob? Judy: and it is only about 2 miles from home Guy B.: That's good. You will do fine BobS: nice people running it, and the company has about 6 other complex's not too far away Frances: One of them even climbed a ladder to go in a window to move someone who had fallen against the door to the room BobS: so maybe I can work into something else....or the full time guy will go somewhere else and I can have his job Judy: don't think he could do that, Frances: Do they only have one person? BobS: this is strictly independent living at this facility Pamela: it sounds great, Bob Pamela: hours? Frances: At CPL, there were 3 maintenance men BobS: noon to 5 every day Judy: ;one full time and one part time there Pamela: so you can sleep in : ) BobS: as long as I can hold onto my current part time job, the 2 will be good BobS: no sleeping in.......got to shovel snow at the other part time job Judy: no he is keeping his other 8 hour job so he will do that in the morning Pamela: I have a job interview tomorrow for a position I'm not sure I want Pamela: how's that for ironic? BobS: for waht, and with same company????? Judy: I have to call back tomorrow on the one I would like Ron: Sounds like a foot in the door Bob Pamela: insurance assistant with Marsh Canada - large corporate insurance broker Pamela: same department as my old boss from Speedy BobS: is that the company you work for? Pamela: nope Judy: and I am still going after the possiblity of going for some certifications Pamela: working for a leasing company right now BobS: well take care of Pam first, and look ahead Frances: What are you after, Judy Pamela: can't hurt, Judy Frances: Certification for what, Judy Judy: receptinist, part time office Judy: in "Excell and Word and maybe Power Point Frances: Have you worked since you got married, Judy? Judy: not a lot Pamela: even one-day courses would help with the computer stuff, Judy - go for it Frances: Did you work before? I know you were very young when you married Judy: but have been working on Antique business, I do the books for that Ron: Work outside the home? Certainly lots of work inside the home I'd suspect Judy: yes, was in a one person office Judy: did all they had to do, course they didn'
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changed username to Guy B. Frances: No one cares about work at home, Ron. Judy: t have computers back then
Guy B. changed username to Annie Frances: Unfortunately
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BobS confirmed ban Ron: sad comment on society
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Annie changed username to Guy B. BobS: no computers, no fax machines, no calculators.........just adding machines, cash payroll.......... Guy B.: Ok, I closed my tab in Firefox and quit the chat.
Ron confirmed ban Judy: the computer work at home does count for something BobS: but you arte still here Guy Judy: it does give me the experience that most don't have Ron: Wonder if it would help to put on the resume: "Can disassemble and reassemble an Adam computer in 2 minutes flat Frances: it's all the same work but now we do it on computers Pamela: I can't imagine working without computers today - when the system goes down at work I can't do anything Guy B.: I'm here now. Ron: Because I've seen Judy do that Judy: I have just turned all the sales and inventory over to Excel from AdamCalc Frances: Wow! Ron: Hey well there ya go Pamela: that's good practice : ) Frances: I'm doing it on my Amiga
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changed username to Daniel Guy B.: HI Daniel Pamela: allo, Daniel Daniel: bonsoir BobS: hiya Daniel Ron: yup... hey, ya gotta include everything Daniel: snow snow snow Ron: salut Monsieur Daniel Frances: Good evening, Daniel. Comment ca va? Judy: we did it and we did payroll in cash, can you believe that Ron: ca va? Daniel: je vais bien! Daniel: I'm fine! Ron: parfait Judy: hi, Daniel Pamela: I can believe it Judy, it just must have taken forever to do it by hand BobS: workng late Daniel ?????? Frances: Didn't use checks? BobS: working Judy: no Daniel: no, I'm at home tonite BobS: this was 38-40 yrs ago Frances BobS: should have used checks, don't know why not Judy: was a chain store, Woolworths Frances: Well, Bob, more than 40 years agoI was paid by check Pamela: dime paycheques? : ) Frances: only we call them cheques Ron: FW Woolworth and Co. the good ol' 5 and dime Pamela: check still looks wrong to me BobS: that's the one Ron Frances: me too Judy: that is the one Pamela: although I know it's used everywhere Frances: Woolworths and Kresges Ron: in ottawa it became Kresge, thence Woolco, and now Mal Wart
BobS left chat session Frances: like Simpsons and Eatons Judy: the bigger stores were Woolco around here Pamela: only cheaper
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changed username to BobS Frances: I was just thinking in terms of what went together Pamela: well then, Simpsons and Eatons and The Bay : ) Frances: not in Ottawa and not in TO Frances: The Bay was big out west Pamela: and up north, I imagine Ron: Yup... Wippeneg west Judy: the store is now split in three now were there Monday is a shoe store Frances: well, in Winnipeg, it was The Bay Pamela: geez, Ron, I have enough trouble spelling Winnipeg - don't do that! Ron: Canada's oldest living corp, the Bay Frances: in Montreal, it was Morgans Judy: sorry we were there Monday Ron: but was bought out recently Frances: In Ottawa, it was - what was the name, Ron? BobS: BEST BUY !!!!! ;-) Judy: doesn't look good on my resume three of the places that I worked in have all closed Ron: well I recall there was a Metropolitan store right across from Hudson's Bay BobS: Tim HOrton's ?????? Pamela: why do I want to say Stedmans? Frances: Ron, there was a big dept. store, an independent Ron: that wasn't your fault Judy Ron: AJ Freeman Pamela: just look at mine, Judy - I keep getting laid off Ron: the Bay bought him Frances: no, Stedman's was a chain of smalltown dept. stores Judy: it was after I left them, does that say something, they needed me Pamela: obviously : ) BobS: Frances, where is Ricahrd ????????? in the sunnybrook campus on Bayview ???????? Judy: that is the way now days, Ron: tomorrow I'm in a position where I as a volunteer have to lay somebody off. Not looking forward to it Frances: I'm sure you're rightRon but that name doesn't strike home Pamela: yes, Bob Frances: Yes BobS: lay off a volunteer ???????? tha would be wierd Ron: AJ Freemans were on Rideau street right across from what is now the Rideau centre Judy: that is the pits, Ron Frances: But we don't know yet where he's going - but out of the ER Ron: No, I'm having to lay off a paid staffer. I'm the volunteer Ron: sure is BobS: how's come yo get the stinky job?????? Ron: because I'm the President Frances: Right, Ron Daniel: Tonight, I tried a strange software that suppose to experiment artificial life based genetic mutatioWed Feb 14 22:21:32 GMT-05:00 2007: Ron : Ron: (<evil grin>) Frances: Why do you have to do it? BobS: that is what you get for being BOSS Ron: I have said I will sit in with our Executive Director while she does all the talking BobS: YUCK Daniel Ron: opened my big mouth. Think Bev is looking for some support Pamela: President of what? Ron: Comox Valley Community Info Systems Society Ron: (say that 10 times real fast) Pamela: ah BobS: president of volunteers Ron: like a freenet Pamela: that, that, that Daniel: framsticks is the software... exists since years '90s Ron: PAMELA!! Frances: What is the software, Daniel and what are you doing with it Pamela: sorry, had to be done : ) Ron: I know BobS: yes, Danile WHY are you watching snaky thingys Frances: daughter, you have seven to go Ron: So Frances, I'd like to send Rich a card... where do I send it Daniel: I was curious to see "evolution" in the artificial life world. Ron: ?? Pamela: that, that, that, that, that, that, that Pamela: happy? Frances: Done Ron: oh sheesh! Frances: Ron, send it here and I'll take it with me Ron: ok... will do Pamela: she encourages me, Ron - what can I say Ron: the devil made you do it Pamela: oh no, my mother made me do it : ) Frances: Daniel, we're not being very attentive - what are you doing with the software Judy: or something Pamela: an obedient child (for the most part) Frances: Um Pamela: LOL Pamela: why do I have the feeling there's a "no comment" coming? : ) Frances: Nope - I'm trying to pay attention to Daniel Daniel: I was impress to see artificial life learning by themself to run, jump, fly, swim, etc... I wanted to try Pamela: where did you get the software, Daniel? Daniel: err.. try google : framsticks Frances: That sounds interesting Daniel Frances: I've read about such software but I'm not skilled enough to program such a thing Daniel: there are other software in the net, but it's the one I'm trying Frances: So when it has learned these things, what does it do? Daniel: In theory, framstick need only to set the Simulation parametters and start it. the simple sticks appear on screen then mutant sticks, then moving sticks, etc... Frances: Does it turn into something not yet seen, so to speak? Daniel: the concept is based on genetic mutations Daniel: a mutations may be benific and then keeped for the next generation Frances: has it mutated into something unusual? Frances: Sorry, Daniel, - Ron, it was Freimans wasn't it? Daniel: you may reach huge monsters without enough brain connection to do something, or a simple structure that run pretty fast... anything between is possible Frances: How long does it run? Seconds, minutes, hours?
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changed username to Neil Guy B.: HI Neil Neil: Hi Pamela: NEIL! Hi! Judy: hi, Neil Pamela: glad to see you Daniel: the simulation time can be long or short before seeing real progress. Ron: Mr. Neil..... Frances: Good evening, Neil. What do you know about framsticks? Ron: must be tired of me phoning Neil: My internet is now working at home finally (and, yes, I did get a phone message from Ron, but I figured he'd be here) Frances: Daniel is trying to tell us about it BobS: and he IS Neil: Never heard of framsticks Ron: yup....ya got that right my son Frances: okay, that settles that Daniel: After 5 hours, I have a bunch of snakes. I specified the goal of distance so they (the sticks) started to move after a couple of minutes and now they move like crazy... and never straight line Neil: Where did you meet up with "framsticks"? Ron: framsticks are the basis wimblespidgets Frances: It's a piece of software Ron: must have at least 3 in a group, but you can only see two at any given time Ron: please don't take me seriously Pamela: sorry to jump all over you Neil, but inquiring minds would like to know - any progress on convention dates? Judy: we won't, Ron BobS: and they resemble the wasy Vista works on your new computer ????????????????????? Daniel: framsticks is a shareware, only the 3d opengl viewer is blocked. Pamela: widgets for short, I assume : ) Ron: Bob... yes, exactly Frances: Ron, while I've got you here - was it Freimans? Ron: think you're right Frances.... yes..(sorry I saw that above, but was unable to answer....the phone rang again) Neil: Yes, time is going on regrading dates. I was worried that I might be away part of this summer, but I no longer think that is a concern. Ron: good Neil: Does anyone know when James will be in Canada. I haven't got around to asking him. Neil: [regrading -> regarding] Daniel: this is the "genes" of one snake I'm watching generated by time, each X represent a stick. Daniel: m(FEEfffSSLlErrrLLLLLLLCfELFEEfSSIISSLlELFfELFEEfflELFEEFEEfSSIISSLlELFEEffEEffffrLLLLLLLCfELFEEfflELFEEFEEfSSIISSLlELFEEffffrLLLLLLLCfELFEEfffffmlEEX[G][|=:3.615, 0:3.767]X[S]FLLLFFFFMMMMMMX[@1:-10,fo:0.04][|=:3.615, 0:1.439]) Ron: Don't think he'll be over Neil. A few chats back, I think he said that much as he'd like to come, cost was prohibitive Pamela: May I suggest, NOT the weekend of July 13, 14, 15th Daniel: all the other symbols and letters have significations like captors and neurons. Neil: July 13th is my birthday, so I'm just as happy to avoid it. I always seem to end up "missing" my birthday, in a sense. Pamela: woo hoo, a Cancer like me : ) Pamela: and, it's a Friday this year Daniel: me... 18th June ... 32yrs Neil: Ron, I wondered about that. If he was coming to Canada, I wanted to make maximum effort to have the dates coincide. Neil: That was decided back in Comox. Frances: a birthday at an Adamcon seems like a good idea Ron: Well sure. Might want to e-mail him Neil: It seems like a good idea, but it seems to just get ignored. Pamela: I think he's decided that he can't manage both the trip and the opening of the new branch of his school Frances: Daniel, that is very interesting but I think it's over my head Neil: I'll have to e-mail him. Ron: Any time in July works for me Neil. August I have family stuff happenin Pamela: Neil, your birthday was during the con in Chicago but you never said a word : ) Guy B.: July is good with me too. After the middle, that's when I start overtime again. Neil: Ron, you're out this way at some point for family stuff? Ron: Will be in Ottawa week May 4 thru 10 for a 50th anniversary reunion of my old Rideau High Ron: but that's a separate trip Daniel: I first wanted to see genetic algorithm in action and framsticks web site have some movie sample. Neil: Yeah, May 4-10 is probably too early for me. I'm probably into dealines and marking around then. Ron: yes thought so. But that's ok... we'll have to get together sometime whilst I'm there Neil: Absoluteloy. Ron: contemplating driving across, going to PEI first, then coming back in time for the Con Ron: dunno yet Neil: Wow, that's a big drive (but spaced out I suppose). Daniel: but, at the begginning I just wanted to see a variante of the Canway's Life algo... and I saw a link to genetic algo by mistake... and then I'm tyring framsticks just for fun. Ron: well, part of me thinks I'm up to it, but we'll se Daniel: Conway's Life something.... Pamela: your car or a rental, Ron? Frances: Wait as long as possible, Neil and give Richard a chance to heal Ron: would probably leave here at the beginning of June Neil: Frances, how long do you think it will take? Daniel: anyway, there is a big probability for me to be at the adamcon this year. BobS: Ron, fly ovewr to Toronto, long term rental/lease and then turn it back in and fly home.....tht is a LONG wasy from BC to Toronto Frances: Neil, I wish I knew Pamela: that's great, Daniel Ron: I know Bob, that's also an option Neil: [Conway's Game of Life] (previously discussed at AdamCon, I think in my talk mayb e) Frances: Ron, where's Rideau High? Frances: or was Neil: Frances, yeah, it's impossible to predict these things. Daniel: I remember seeing a variante of this game of life .... but I njever find it. Ron: on St. Laurent Blvd before you get to St.Laurent shopping centre Neil: Daniel, I certainly hope you'd be able to come. Frances: okay, not my part of town Ron: yes Daniel... that would be great Ron: Neil, I also had an exchange of e-mail about 3 weeks ago with Tony Morehen Frances: I know the Glebe district and uptown Ron: he's planning on moving back to Ottawa, and says he hopes to make the convention Daniel: of course I want to come to the adamcon. just need to plan how to go there... Guy B.: Well folks. I'm going to go here. See you all next week. Let us know when the dates are Neil. Pamela: g'nite Guy Frances: what did he say, Ron? Ron: further east Frances Frances: Goodnight, Guy Pamela: (PRIVATE) hugs to you and keep both your feet and Annie's warm Judy: night, Guy Neil: Ottawa hotels are horribly expensive, especially in the summer, but it would be so nice to be downtown. I'm going to check if there's any availability at uOttawa residences. Pamela: start saving now, Daniel Guy B.: (PRIVATE) That we are, Pam Ron: gather he's retiring (G'nite Guy) from his Alberta Treasury post sometime in the summer. They've already bought a house In Ottawa Guy B.: Poof
Guy B. left chat session Neil: So Tony's moving to Ottawa this summer? Frances: He really wants to go back to Ottawa? Ron: Neil, there's Cartier Towers on Cooper street..... also the Chimo Inn on the east side of town Ron: yes apparently Ron: summer or fall Neil...not exactly certain Frances: Bob and Judy, there's an excellent municipal campground in Ottawa Pamela: we don't need a lot of fancy stuff, Neil - just decent beds, a spacious convention room, and crispy bacon Daniel: ho Neil, do you think you can do something about a Adam computer transformed into a PC mid-tour? I have this machine since last year after I bought a Adam lot from someone refered by Rich. I got a lot of things I have no idea like documentation and many tapes and floppies... and this Adam working in a PC mid-tour. Neil: Ron, that's a good idea. Neil: Hmm, crispy bacon is one of those tough commodities. Ron: probably won't be eating bacon this time round. Depends on how much weight I want to keep off Frances: Okay, we go out to the campground and build a fire Pamela: now there's an idea Ron: hey! there ya go Neil: We had a professor job candidate visiting our department last week from England and he had trouble finding a breakfast restaurant. He ended up having breakfast in "pseudo-Scottish" pub! Pamela: (now where did I put that tent?) Judy: we don't know if we will be able to be away this year, depends on the job, you know Ron: yes Judy, we don't like it, but we can certainly understand that Frances: yes, of course - but if you can come, there's a campground for your motor home Neil: "mid-tour"? "tower"? Daniel: yes, in frenglish Frances: I gather he didn't like McDonalds for breakfast? Pamela: not having you there would stink, Judy Pamela: but, we understand Ron: There are 12 Weight Watchers points in an Egg McMuffin -- almost half a day's intake Neil: There *is* a nearby McDonald's, but maybe he didn't find it. BobS: well kids.....tis time to go here in Michigan.......... BobS: will see you next week, yes?????? Pamela: point him to the nearest Tim Hortons - their breakfast sandwiches are very good BobS: and say HI to Richard Neil: He thought it was funny that the waitresses all had kilts with sporans. Pamela: yes, Bob Ron: good luck Bob with the new job.... and keep hunting Judy Frances: good night, Slopsemas BobS: will have to mail a card Pamela: good night to you both and good hunting BobS: si
BobS left chat session Frances: send it here - I'm sure the p.o.can find our house Neil: Apparently Tim Horton's quadrupled their profit in the last quarter with the new breakfast sandwiches. Judy: yes, morning comes way to soon and we have Ryan all day he doesn't have school tomorrow or Fri, so need to get some rest, night all Frances: daughter, what is a breakfast sandwich? Pamela: not surprised, Neil Daniel: the Adam PC works, but have a tape drive or cartridge slot... should be interresting to modify it
Judy left chat session Daniel: er... errata Pamela: scrambled egg, cheese, bacon / sausage on a tea biscuit, I believe - they're good Daniel: doesn't have a tape drive Neil: Good night Michiganders. Daniel: doesn't have a cartridge slot Neil: I haven't tried one from Tim's yet. Frances: That sounds like a day's intake all at once Pamela: they're not for every day, but they make good weekend brekkies Frances: I've stayed longer than I should have and it's time for me to go too. You too, daughter! Pamela: yes, mother : ) Frances: Um! Neil: The "day's intake at once" is a big problems these days. Frances: Indeed it is, Neil Frances: Anyway, good night all! Pamela: night Mom, see you tomorrow Neil: Daniel, so it's an Adam in a PC case?
Frances left chat session Pamela: much as I hate to admit it, she's right Daniel: yes Daniel: and working Pamela: tomorrow will be a long day Ron: Anyway people, my other chat just got active. Neil, keep us posted eh? Ron: I'm gonna hafta sign off Pamela: goodnight, Ron Pamela: I'm going to have to go and get organized, and get some decent sleep Neil: I think you have to gave a tape drive. Ron: Nite all. don't do anything I wouldn't do Daniel: bonne nuit Ron Pamela: so, as long as I'm awake, see you all next week. Goodnight!
Ron left chat session Neil: Dale has his Adam in a PC tower, but I can't remember what he did about the tape drive. Pamela: kerpoof!
Pamela left chat session Daniel: I have a tape drive part but I honnestly I don't want to modify this mutant Adam PC myself. Daniel: do you think it's a good idea to bring it to the adamcon? Neil: Well, it's already mutated part-way. It suppose you can get anything on disks anyway. Neil: Yeah, I think anone at an Adamcon would like to see it. Daniel: not sure, but I think it's a 3"1/2 drive on it... I have to check this to be sure. Neil: [anone -> anyone] Neil: 3 1/2s are probably good. Blank 5 1/4 are hard to find new these days (though not impossible). Daniel: I still have some blank 5"1/4 floppy disks... and I saw also one place who still sale them. Neil: I'm sure you can get them if you know where to look. I think I have one un-opened package from several years ago. Neil: Well, I should sign off for now. Daniel: I hope someone will be interrested enough to take the Adam PC, it's cool but I have no idea how to modify it to make it even better. Daniel: bonne nuit Neil... keep us informed about the Adamcon. Neil: I'm sure you'd get plenty of advice on modifying. Daniel: take care! Neil: Bonne nuit. I'll let you know.
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