Guy B.: HI Rich rich-c: well how aout that Guy B.: Dr. D is away, so he'll be back rich-c: two here already - more or less Guy B.: Dr. D was here first then me. rich-c: anyway hi Guy, I'll get rich later Guy B.: Did you get any rain by you?
Dr. D. <away> changed username to Dr. D. rich-c: guess that means he got home safely from Toronto then Dr. D.: Hi all. Guy B.: HI Dr D. rich-c: hi Rich, see your home safe Dr. D.: Yes I did get back from Toronto okay yesterday. Guy B.: How's everything? Dr. D.: We came back through Niagara Falls. Guy B.: I heard from Neil this week Dr. D.: I haven't been on the Peace Bridge since the return from ADAMcon 12 with Elanor. rich-c: anyway, Guy, we had desultory drizzle almost all day Dr. D.: I'd forgotten there was no toll. Dr. D.: Fortunately no border problems with Gretchen. rich-c: there isn't? Guy B.: We had a little heavy rain overnight, but it's nice out today. Dr. D.: At least not coming from Canada to US. Dr. D.: Might be like Ft. Erie, pay to get into Canada but not out. rich-c: well, you shouldn't have problems with Gretchen - she is provably your own daughter Dr. D.: Yes, but I am not the custodial parent. Fortunately I had a notarized permission letter from Joan. Dr. D.: I covered all contingencies... rich-c: there are a lot of those one-way bridges in the Niagara area rich-c: the one at Lewiston is not among them rich-c: as well you should, Rich - there is even more paranoia on that point than is justified, and a lot is justified
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changed username to BobS Guy B.: HI Bob Dr. D.: I didn't deploy the letter until the guard asked if my wife (in Toronto) was the mother of Gretchen, and I said no, but she has permission to be with me. rich-c: hello, minheer Slopsema Dr. D.: The letter had all the trip dates, gave all Joan's contact info but gave me permission to deal with emergencies on Gretchen's behalf until Joan could be reached. rich-c: yes, fundamentally a form letter, but vital Dr. D.: Two pages typewritten 12-point Times...better to have it than not. I made the same thing for the wedding last year when my Dad brought the girls to Windsor. Dr. D.: Christina is an adult with her own passport so I didn't have to worry about her.
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changed username to DougS Dr. D.: I just modified the wedding letter to fit this trip. Dr. D.: Hi Bob. rich-c: good clear type so the border guard can read it (if he can read) Dr. D.: And Doug! Dr. D.: She could. Guy B.: Doug, long time no see. How are you? rich-c: hello Doug, welcome aboard DougS: doing well i think. BobS: guards at ther vorder can READ ??????????????
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changed username to Meeka DougS: entering :) Guy B.: There she is. He Meeka Meeka: hello rich-c: hi Meeka Guy B.: HI Meeka, how are you? BobS: Judy will be here shortly, she is dinishing a test Meeka: doin ok i guess rich-c: Guy, you said you heard from Neil - what did he have to say?
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changed username to Guy F. Dr. D.: I hope Rin will be here, she was having some computer issues earlier. Guy B.: He's late getting everything for the con and frankly, I'm not surprised rich-c: if she needs some help, isn't that Dr. D's specialty she's working on? Guy F.: Hola. Dr. D.: I was already doing that by phone for an hour :-S BobS: well we ALL have comuter issues Rich Dr. D.: She has DSL issues with Bell. Guy F.: Except for the Mac users I suppose. Dr. D.: Meesa Mac :-) Guy B.: HI GuyF Dr. D.: I was trying to get the fallback to dialup working in time for the chat. Guy F.: Hi GuyB BobS: ahso JOe Dr. D.: Obviously, can't tell while talking to her on the phone, since it's dialup. rich-c: yes, Bell has been screwing up royally of late - I have been giving John (my ISP operator) a seriously bent ear BobS: hi GuyF, hows the family?????? BobS: you still IN CHARGE of diapers??????? Guy B.: He's suppose to have the names who is coming to the con by tomorrow and he hasn't gotten the registration form up at all. Dr. D.: She upgraded to a DSL-lite, but then they double-billed her for both dialup and DSL. Guy F.: BobS: Awesome, we moved a few days ago and are finally getting installed in the new place. rich-c: whoops! where did that other Guy sneak in? Dr. D.: Their "fix" was to nuke the DSL for a week...so while I was there, I had to reconfig her computer back to dialup and its ethernet port to share a net.connection with my laptop, as we used to do. Guy F.: I have a short name, it's easy to go by unnoticed.
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changed username to erin Dr. D.: She wanted to find out if the DSL was back on in time for the chat tonight, so we had to reconfigure by phone to that mode...it wasn't, so then we had to go back... Guy B.: HI Rin Guy F.: Allright, gotta go... bye all Meeka: hi erin Dr. D.: And I see Rin here, so I guess I backed out of it okay. Guy B.: Bye Guy, glad you stopped by. Guy F.: Sorry to leave so soon. Dr. D.: Bye GuyF erin: hi Guy erin: and bye Guy
Guy F. left chat session Dr. D.: Hi Sweetie Rin, glad the dialup at least is working. Guy B.: That's the other one, Rin rich-c: hello Rin, see you did make it on Dr. D.: Unless this is a different Erin, I see a lowercase BobS: WB RIN, heard that your 'man' got your computer all goofed up ??????????????????? BobS: :-) erin: oh I know - I said hi to you and bye to him Dr. D.: She got a nuked version of XP from her brother that is preventing a wipe/reinstall to clean it up :-S Guy B.: Anyway, Neil told me he has been busy and he was going to put something up on the list, but nothing at all.
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu erin: hi BobS Guy B.: HI Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir! Dr. D.: Hello Daniel BobS: good morning Daniel BobS: hows things? Dr. D.: I presume no problems with the dialup then Rin? rich-c: salut, Daniel erin: no problems Daniel Bienvenu: good evening Bob! :-) erin: hi Daniel Dr. D.: yay Daniel Bienvenu: hi Guy Daniel Bienvenu: hello Dr.D Daniel Bienvenu: salut, rich-c Guy B.: You missed Guy F, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: hi erin rich-c: GuyF was here but had to go change a diaper
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changed username to Pamela Dr. D.: Gretchen and I were in Toronto and Niagara Falls over the weekend. Guy B.: HI Pam Daniel Bienvenu: hi pam BobS: glad you are having all the fun with ATT this time Canadian buddies........now Richard can't blame me for using ATT dsl svc rich-c: hello daughter Daniel Bienvenu: hi meeka Meeka: hi Pam Daniel Bienvenu: hi doug Meeka: hello Daniel erin: hi Pam Pamela: greetings one and all BobS: SALUT Daniel Bienvenu: july already... adamcon soon... many things to do before that event... Pamela: Hi Doug, long time no see Dr. D.: SALYUT was a Soviet spacecraft :-) DougS: It's been a while. how is everyone doing?
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changed username to Judy Daniel Bienvenu: hi judy Dr. D.: Soyuz was another. Guy B.: HI Judy Meeka: hi mom :) Judy: Hello everyone Pamela: Hi Judy Dr. D.: Our 1st anniversary is coming up on 5 August and she is still not able to move here :-( Dr. D.: Slow paperwork. rich-c: hello Judy BobS: any word on progress??????? Dr. D.: Otherwise everyone is well. Dr. D.: Nope Bob. Judy: that is a real bummer, DR D Dr. D.: Just waiting. erin: hi Judy Pamela: hurry up and wait Pamela: it's the worst Dr. D.: Well Rin got a raise at work so she can at least save us some more $$$ rich-c: likely the Post Office - I'm still waiting for Autoweek that was due June 25th Judy: congradulation on the raise erin: thanks rich-c: pity it won't be enough to send you to Adamcon Dr. D.: I am waiting on several government documents from various agencies...I'd be thrilled if it were the USPS that is the holdup but I doubt it. erin: yeah - too late for Adamcon Dr. D.: Frankly Richard I would not be too hopeful at this point... Guy B.: Bummer Dr. D.: ...of an ADAMcon that is. Dr. D.: 27 July is 3 weeks away. rich-c: well, I haven't given up hope, but I've put it in the unrealistic box Meeka: lol Judy: that is one way of putting it rich-c: so Rin, you're going to be tearing down and reinstalling XP on your computer, too? Dr. D.: She ought to, but that is not possible Richard. BobS: format thre hd, and start over mon Guy B.: I'm going to make my airline reservations this weekend and if Neil puts a registration form up before the weekend. Then I can get a bank check off to him. rich-c: I spent most of last night moving stuff I don't want to lose to my USB hard disc Dr. D.: One of her brothers "fixed" it. erin: nope I'm just leaving her be until I can get a new computer Judy: I got a new Word today, my computer man was over Dr. D.: I HATE NEW WORD it makes documents unreadable by any previous version BobS: new install of Office 2003, which dont' work any better tahn the odl version Dr. D.: FOR NO GOOD REASON OTHER THAN TO PUSH VISTA SALES rich-c: pity - I do have a copy of 98SE I'm not using, so it's legal Meeka: ya, doug said vista version changed the file format BobS: turns out, it may be the printer driver that is controlling the problem she was having Judy: this is Word 2003 that is what I am being tested on tomorrow Dr. D.: Good luck Judy Pamela: Erin, I obviously missed something - what happened to your computer? Dr. D.: DSL woes due to Bell Judy: thanks I think I know it Meeka: its buggred up lol Guy B.: The mail merge in Word 2003 is WAY different than in Office 2000. Pamela: I knew that much Dr. D.: We had to switch networking settings around to revert to dialup. Judy: I know how to mail merge Dr. D.: We switched them back to DSL tonight to see if DSL was back on, and it's not, so we had to revert to dialup again. Dr. D.: Tricky to dictate by phone. erin: what he said Pamela: ok : )
(Dr. D. hugs erin) Guy B.: I took an in-house course a couple of years ago when work decided to upgrade us to XP and Office 2003. Now, I've master the mail merge and it's not all that bad. Pamela: mushy stuff! Dr. D.: I just noticed that all the custom Actions are gone in the chat; Dale must have reset everything at some point. rich-c: fwiw Tamco buys its bandwidth from Bell, which is working today (mostly) erin: I'll try it again tomorrow - basically the main problem was that for some reason the CD to load the DSL said my computer didn't have a big enough processer Pamela: mail merge is easy now that I've been practicing for a while BobS: oh well erin: which is pathetic because it installed and had been working for a month already Dr. D.: If the Network Setup Wizard stuff works, you will not need the disk AFAIK. Guy B.: I'm taking an Excel course in August on data lookup functions. Pamela: way over my head, Guy
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changed username to Neil Daniel Bienvenu: hi Neil Neil: Hi Judy: I am finished with Excel that is the next exam i will be taking Meeka: hi neil Dr. D.: I hear fireworks now, it is dark enough here. Guy B.: Well, it might be helpful with me, since I use Excel 80% of the time. Pamela: I've also noticed that certain ways of doing things with data source make merges much easier rich-c: well, hello Neil. Where have you been? Pamela: Hi, Neil BobS: just getting dark here Dr d Neil: Where haven't I been. Guy B.: HI Neil, what's the word on the con? Dr. D.: You are further west Bob :-) BobS: a littler Judy: Hi, Neil BobS: got firecrackers and all going off Guy B.: Same here, but's finally stopped. Startled Annie, but she's Ok Neil: I handed in my major paper (finally) yesterday morning and was in Montreal all days yesterday watching 2 of the U-20 World Cup games. Dr. D.: Rin shot nice movies of the Canada Day fireworks we saw in Weston on Sunday evening. Neil: I finally have the registration form ready and will e-mail it momentarily. rich-c: so that's what you twp were up to - which display did you go to? Guy B.: Fantastic Daniel Bienvenu: great erin: the ones at Lions Park Dr. D.: The one at Lion's Park, Richard, easy walk. Neil: The hotel is holding 10 rooms until tomorrow, so I have to have names and arrival and departure dates from all of you who are coming by noon tomorrow. rich-c: oh - don't know where that is Dr. D.: We ate carny food and played carny games (Rin and Gretchen each won stuffed pandas) then sat on the hillside facing the river and watched the fireworks. Dr. D.: Weston Rd. and Lawrence Ave. W., right Rin? Guy B.: I'll be arriving on the 26th and leaving on the 30th. rich-c: OK, over by the Humber - didn't even know there was a park there - in the ravine? Dr. D.: Yes. Pamela: Just south of Lawrence Dad, in the ravine Dr. D.: Tennis courts, outdoor pool, ice rink, soccer field, baseball diamonds. Dr. D.: Playground with water spouts. rich-c: for Frances and I, the firm part is the Thursday through Sunday - but we will likely book to arrive earlier and maybe leave later Pamela: I thought the spouts were in Cruickshank Park, farther north Dr. D.: The carny stuff was on the soccer field. Dr. D.: No, Cruickshank is right down the stairs from Church Street, no water stuff there. Pamela: good to know for future reference : ) rich-c: OK, you can't really see down from a car on the bridge there - or on St. Phillips, for that matter Dr. D.: No, St. Phillips is too far away to see any of it. rich-c: anyway, Neil, will the convention get credit for any extra days we book? Pamela: Neil, do we have to print this off, complete it and fax it back? Dr. D.: Re: ADAMcon, Erin and I won't be able to make it this year, Neil :-( :-( :-( Neil: You should be able to fill in the form using Acrobat or Adobe Reader, save it, and e-mail it back. Pamela: ok Neil: That's too bad, Dr. D.
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Bob changed username to BobS Dr. D.: We would like to buy T-shirts though Neil. Dr. D.: So let us know pricing and we can order some, or Rin can, more easily, in $CDN Pamela: Neil, are we better to book thru the hotel for extra days, or as part of the con group? Neil: Rich, I told the hotel guy we would have various arrival and departure dates, so we should be able to book various dates under the convention. rich-c: Since pricing is dependent on room-days, Neil, I'm concerned Adamcon get credited with all we use, is all Neil: I set up the form so you can fill in the number of days you want. (We are getting a special group rate, so I think it's best to book through me.) Pamela: the only thing that might change that is a CAA or AAA membership - Best Western offers a discount for members rich-c: my other concern is getting a rooom with basic handicap facilities- I still need to use my walker for any distance BobS: and on that note Richard, how you doing??????? rich-c: and I need information on accessible parking - do they honour an Ontario permit? Neil: Dr. D.: We have set a price of $12 for shirts. Let me know what you want and sizes. Pamela: you might have to call the hotel for that Dad BobS: handicapped is handicapped mon rich-c: with my walker and a rest on the way, I can make it to the plaza and back, Bob Neil: Rich: I will ask about handicapped. I don't see that an Ontario permit would be any problem. I can't remember what the parking lot situation was for handicapped spaces. rich-c: I will want an Adamcon t-shirt for myself, but Frances says she will pass Neil: They are renovating the underground parking, so they only have outdoor parking. BobS: thta is GOOD Richard Neil: With Frances in mind, we made the shirt optional. Pamela: and for this they're charging $8 a day?? rich-c: someone told me Quebec was its usual nasty self about honouring out of province handicap documents Neil: There are not many smoking rooms. If you're not in a smoking room, you may have one with a balcony where you can smoke. Dr. D.: Okay Neil I will send you an E-mail to confirm the order, an L for me and I guess an L for Rin too. erin: yes rich-c: I quit smoking several years ago - it isn't an issue for me Dr. D.: AFAIK there are no smokers in the current group now. Pamela: I think I'm the only smoker, Neil Dr. D.: Except Pam :-( Neil: Pam, would you be looking for a smoking room? Pamela: yes rich-c: what I need is a ground floor or elevator that can accommodate my walker, and above all quiet rich-c: assist grips and traction strips in the bathroom are a big help too BobS: and WHAT are you going to do in the bathtub with traction strips?????? run a race????? Neil: I will ask tomorrow about the handicapped facilities and permits. rich-c: soapy bottoms get slippy, Bob, and with a broken back you can't balance properly BobS: oh OK BobS: Judy just killed herself off
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changed username to JudyS rich-c: see, told you so Neil: Yes, they have to charge for parking ($7 + tax). Most parking in downtown is more than that. They have fairly limited amount of surface parking, but the underground parking was dropping nasty liquids on cars, so they have to leave everyone outside. erin: (PRIVATE) so do you want to go Friday? JudyS: I am back, hit the x one time to many Pamela: (PRIVATE) unless I'm too tired to cope, I'd like to go. I'm done at 5:00 Neil: I'm sure the elevator will have no problems with the walker. BobS: YUCK BobS: who wants goopy stuff all over their car Pamela: (PRIVATE) be right back, checking something rich-c: well, I am very suspicious of the parking charge and rationale for it - no other motel charges Guy B.: If anyone could pick me up from the airport and take me there, I could avoid renting a car. Dr. D.: The better to support the automobile repainting industry, Bob :-) erin: (PRIVATE) sounds good to me - we'll play it by ear BobS: true doc Neil: It's not really a "motel". I don't know of any other downtown hotel that has free parking. rich-c: any idea when you will be coming in and leaving, Guy? Guy B.: I'll have to look at the flight schedules. BobS: depends on what time the passenger pigeon comes in Richard BobS: AND if he has to leave inthe light or the drak BobS: dark Guy B.: It will be on Thursday, the 26th and leaving Monday the 30th. rich-c: let's say that in all my years of travelling I have never encountered a hotel/motel that charges guests for parking Neil: When I take my car, I usually park at the Quality Hotel on the Ottawa side. It $7.50 for the whole day which is very cheap, but hotel guests have to pay $11 or $11.50 to park overnight. Guy B.: That's first for even me. Dr. D.: If it is a city ordinance Richard not much can be done. Dr. D.: Parking in cities exists to make $$$ Guy B.: Exactly Neil: The Holiday Inn, the other option I had, charges $10 for parking (+ tax, I assume). Dr. D.: Maybe you should just take a train in Richard and avoid the driving issue entirely. Dr. D.: Rin and I would like an excuse someday to take a train together :-) rich-c: no, especially with my baggage that would involve far too many complications BobS: I can see that Richard BobS: would work ONLY IF the train left your block and stpped AT the hotel rich-c: the train involves a change in Kingston, I believe, and runs to outer Ottawa, a long way from Gatineau erin: all right folks - I'm heading out - morning comes early rich-c: and then we'd have no transport for our extra days Guy B.: Night Erin erin: nite all! BobS: be good Erin, have FUN, get yoru dsl working and.........WORK HARD Dr. D.: Nite Sweetie, I should follow soon too. rich-c: gotta earn that extra pay, Rin - ; - ) erin: exactly "-)
erin left chat session Pamela: nite Rin Dr. D.: She is working very hard, she is the only one to get her ministry to meet a certain internal deadline that no other ministry has yet met, and she was done 2 weeks early. Dr. D.: She is running the joint, she can be Steve's running mate in an election some day. rich-c: good on her - or is that also telling us something about the other ministries? Dr. D.: Both. Pamela: Rich, will you tell her that I'll try to call her tomorrow - our Recreation Day is tomorrow and I'll be gone much of the day, but will try Dr. D.: She anticipated certain stuff over a year ago and has been working on it steadily in anticipation of being asked for it. BobS: ooooooooooh, a femal politican, are they allowed to lie liek the boys? Dr. D.: haha Pamela: not only are they allowed, they do it better : ) Dr. D.: Okay Pam. Pamela: thanks Rich Dr. D.: All right, I am closing hailing frequencies for the night. Dr. D.: <boom> go the fireworks here Dr. D.: <poof>
Dr. D. left chat session BobS: so same goes for you Dr D.......be good, blah blah blah Guy B.: Bye Dr. D Pamela: night Rich Pamela: man everyone is poofing in a hurry BobS: no lie rich-c: The bunch Rin works for are hopeless - their only salvation is that the Opposition is, incredibly, worse Guy B.: That for sure BobS: so which political group is worse........the BIG QUESTION Neil: There are 3 trains a day to Ottawa from Toronto with no change required at Kingston. The train station is actually not that far away (about 4 km I think). The airport is much farther. rich-c: actually while the train ride is nice it isn't a viable option for us, Neil Pamela: Guy to answer your question, one way or the other we'll get you from the airport to the hotel Pamela: Just let us know when your flight is Guy B.: Ok, I have your e-mail address. So, I'll let you know then. rich-c: the only question is whether you get to ride in a Safari or an Escape Neil: I know it's not a viable option. I was just filling you in on what that option involves for anyone who might be interested. rich-c: and make sure I get a copy, Guy Guy B.: Will do Rich Pamela: it will be one of us, whether a Clee, a Vilneff, or a Wick Pamela: and I'm sure the hotel probably runs a shuttle, Guy Pamela: which may be a better bet for your return flight Guy B.: I didn't see one on their website. rich-c: yes, that depends on how early it is in the morning Neil: The airport is not actually as far away as the hotel says it is, but it's at least a 20-minute drive + traffic jams. It's most practical to have someone drive you, but several people have cars. Guy B.: I'm going to try to arrive by dinner time and hopefully take off on Monday morning. rich-c: all depends on when he's leaving - Frances does not do mornings very well Pamela: what do you have planned for the field trip Neil? Neil: I don't know that they have a shuttle. It's actualyl not terribly easy to get from the airport to downtown, except by private car or taxi. Pamela: and here's another question for you - what's the best way to the hotel from the 417 eastbound? Neil: I think the Museum of Civilization is the best option for the field trip. Some may have seen it, but there are always new things, and it is Canada's most popular museum. rich-c: if we had enopiugh Americans I'd recommend Parliament Hill, but too many of us have done that BobS: probalby go north or south ON a road Pam Pamela: gee thanks Bob : ) Meeka: in your car BobS: no problem hon, that is WHAT I am here for Neil: There's a combo ticket for Civilization and the War Museum also available. JudyS: he is full of it isn't he? rich-c: the Museum of Civilization has a special exhibit on China right now that's getting very good reviews Pamela: full of smart parts, Judy : ) JudyS: I live will that daily Meeka: just be glad you dont live with them parts rich-c: and I hear the War Museum (which was always good) has just been massively upgraded Pamela: that's okay Judy, I do too BobS: nostly the back side about halfway down????????????????? Meeka: his son is not much better :P Pamela: when I ask Russell what we should do about dinner he says "I think we should have some" BobS: MY KIND OF MAN Meeka: doug would juswt say i dont know, ehat do you want rich-c: well, there's a St. Hubert's nearby, but I think we may want better Guy B.: Hope they have good restaurants in the area BobS: speaking of Russell, did he find anything to occupy his free time yet???? Pamela: not yet Pamela: soon, I hope JudyS: that is the common hope rich-c: last time we were in Ottawa, Ron took us to a very nice Lebanese restaurant downtown Pamela: what about you, did that promising interview pan out yet? Daniel Bienvenu: my boss was thinking the adamcon was in june, but I clearly specified it was in july... the big boss return from some vacation now, I will have to ask again, i think... rich-c: and I seem to recall a steakhouse that defeated me in my "hollow leg" days Pamela: Daniel, be firm - you ARE coming Guy B.: Daniel, are you? Neil: From the 417, probably get off at Nicholas (just past downtown), turn left on Rideau, right onto Sussex 3 or 4 blocks to the art gallery, then across the old Interprovincial Bridge. The hotel is right at the end of the bridge. JudyS: not yet, hopefully next week, the other two people dropped out and he needed more people to interview BobS: no, but I did get agood email fromt he guy and he says he WANTS to have taht interview and ins very interested in me Pamela: why? he's got the best already : ) Guy B.: Neil, if you get the registration form up by tomorrow. I could have it off to you later in the day. Meeka: we know that BobS: kinda what I thought too Pam JudyS: we don't have time to get jobs, kids and parents are keeping us too busy rich-c: quite, he can still count the dropouts into the interview quota Meeka: just has to convince htthen of that now BobS: woudl think so wouldn't you ???? JudyS: Doug was in the hospital last Saturday Daniel Bienvenu: I'm trying to contact steve begin by phone, but I got no answer... I don't know if he will be able to fill the registration tommorow. Neil: The new war museum is fantastic!, but I think the Museum of Civilization is more of general interest. Guy B.: What happened? JudyS: his heart stopped twice Pamela: WHAT??? Guy B.: Oh my. Any idea what caused it? JudyS: and on Monday son-in-law doug was rushed in the hospital JudyS: not yet still running tests Meeka: no, they not reLLT sure4 yeyt Meeka: scar3esd the shit outt me thoughgt Guy B.: Could be anything. Pamela: OMG!! Guy B.: I would be too Pamela: I believe it, Meeka Meeka: sorry bput my typin ,, my fingers npt working right these fdeday s Neil: There are tons of good restaurants to choose from on the Ottawa side. I left the suppertimes on your own except the banquet so people can take their pick according to preference. Pamela: it's all the keyboard's fault Meeka Meeka: no, i wish it was rich-c: yes, heart problems are seriously scary at the best of times BobS: passed out and hit the floor the first time and the second time.......e unit guy stabbed him with an IV and scared the sh&& out of him Guy B.: Good idea Neil. Meeka: i haveing problemsw with my hqands Guy B.: Carpel Tunnel? JudyS: meek is having some trouble with numbness in her finger, will be going to a specialist next month Meeka: dont th8ink so BobS: no carpel finger !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 JudyS: that is Meeka Pamela: what on earth is going on with all of you? You all have to stop scaring us like this Meeka: i haed a MRI abpout 2 weeksa ago and they say i have demyelanization of the nerves Guy B.: I'm wearing my right wrist support now. The other is at work for the left. rich-c: man, you all sure have your plates full of problems JudyS: think of how we must be feeling Meeka: which basically meqans there is something going on with the coating that protectsd the nerves BobS: heck I am thinking of leaving this sick bunch REichard BobS: sucks to be us it do Pamela: wow, weird Daniel Bienvenu: I still want to be at the adamcon, I'm planning to be there, but I still don't know if I will go there by car, bus or train. maybe it's a good opportunity to travel by train rather than bus and car... where is the train station? Neil: Daniel, email me names and dates as if everyone is coming. If necessary, we can make adjustments later. (There is no cancellation penalty as long as we have at least 24 hours notice.) Pamela: one hand or both, Meeka? Meeka: ya, im th3e mean time ist is dribinmg me bomkers\] Meeka: bpoth JudyS: monday I said i was packing my bags and leaving, not telling anyone where i was going Pamela: I've had days like that Judy Meeka: also0 feels like i have a ace bandgae wrpped around my toreosoe too BobS: told my boss I was spending the day at home, not answering the phone.....but wouldn't yo know it !!!! D&M showed up and so did Mandy and Ryan DougS: she hasn't been able to spell for years, this just compounds the problem. Pamela: couldn't you folks get nice normal stuff like appendicitis??? BobS: got caought again JudyS: we have had way too many of those days Meeka: HEY, I reaembele thqt :P Meeka: oops, i ment resent lol Pamela: : ) Meeka: guesds not BobS: THAT might HURT Pam Pamela: oh, and having your heart stop doesn't?? rich-c: Is there a train service from Montreal to Ottawa, or is it strictly bus? Meeka: he doesdnt remember it Neil: It is 6.5 km to the train station, about a 15-minute drive. It's also not too difficult to go by bus from the train station, but I'm sure someone could pick you up. Meeka: he says next thing he knows i ws on the phone with 911 Pamela: there is train service Dad BobS: got lots of booms here fromt he fireworks around here Guy B.: I can hear them too. Even though I'm about a couple miles from them. BobS: long story short, the doctors kno't know anything yet about WHY Neil: Mtl-Ott by train is under 2 hours and about $65 return. I think it's cheaper by bus. I know people who have travelled by bus, but the train is nicer in my opinion. rich-c: oh, I went off to get my beer and missed a bit - just catching up BobS: BEER !?!?!?!?!? Meeka: you alreasdy had your 1 beer for the dy ddad
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changed username to rich-1 Daniel Bienvenu: hello again rich Guy B.: Welcome Back Rich BobS: THAT is catchingup for sure Richard rich-1: yes, hit the dsmn Windows key again and zap BobS: what's on tap tonight for the brew Richard? rich-1: anyway, Guy Foster, Fred and I are going to have a beer tasting session ; - ) Neil: I'm getting Dale to schedule the seminars. I think it's pretty open at the moment, but let him know how much time you think you'll need. rich-1: tonight it's Black Oak Nut Brown Ale BobS: AHHA BobS: grand finale on fireworks Guy B.: Should be about an hour. Dale did a great job with last year's. rich-1: I am buying six-packs from the better micro-breweries and having a sample eash chat night Meeka: ]eewwww JudyS: that doesn't sound very good, Rich Daniel Bienvenu: my laptop is acting weird lately... he try booting but show a blue screen seeing that "unmounting boot device" and I saw the answer in microsoft web page and it's like a conflict between os, hd and bios... and it's not my fault. Pamela: my sentiments too Meeka BobS: the BLUE screen OF DEATH Daniel BobS: a famous Microsoft innovation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 rich-1: yes, one of their best known undocumented features BobS: how many beers ayou have tongiht??????? and how many chats are YOU gonna have at AC19? Pamela: the only one that works consistently : ) Guy B.: Oh oh. Meeka: almost all beer is yucky in my opinoin pam JudyS: mine too BobS: cept for Caribe, Judy says Pamela: mine too BobS: mine too rich-1: tonight I will have the one bottle, as always. At the Con, whatever we three (and any additions) consider prudent BobS: oops, some are good !!!!!!! Pamela: and my father thinks I'm a peasant :) Guy B.: I have a hard drive enclosure ready to be tested. I put in my old 4.3GB hard drive and it will use a USB port. Daniel Bienvenu: the only solution is "if I can restart the computer and boot, then just ignore the blue screen... but tonight this screen appears twice", so I checked again and the answer is using another cable for the hd and setup something in the bios the make windows boot everytime. Meeka: i gust dont like the tste Guy B.: See if you can get into the BIOS Pamela: I know - too bitter Daniel Bienvenu: well, at least, my precious data are on my desktop computer and some dvd-r. BobS: Bill gates sasy go to this website... mistupid.com/bluescreen/answer.html BobS: and BILL KNOWS Pamela: me< I'm a fuzzy njavel type Daniel Bienvenu: this is the message I got. "STOP 0x000000ED UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME" Meeka: long island ice tea is pretty good too BobS: tis this a NEW laptop Daniel????? Pamela: yup Daniel Bienvenu: it's a well know issue BobS: probalby, Microsoft built it INTO Windows rich-1: I can't stand sweet drinks (excwept maybe certain specialist wines) - I like my beer with muscles BobS: beer with muscle???????? Daniel Bienvenu: it's the laptop I bought last year to be able to do a speech about coleco programming at the Arcadia festival in Montreal... and I use it to do some work. BobS: ohoh Pamela: not your average Pamela: Coors, Bolb BobS: probably hd cable or windows or keyboard or screen problem Pamela: Meeka, are you contagious?? rich-1: "unmountable"? you're using Vista? Meeka: he wants i t tio stand up by itself, no glass needed :P DougS: what did you install lately Daniel? Update to a driver perhaps? BobS: that there wee li'l computer is NOT a horse you know Meeka: dont think so, why? Pamela: 'xactly JudyS: we hope not Pamela: because all of a sudden I can't type either! Meeka: lol BobS: catching is it? JudyS: seeing as she is sitting in the room with us BobS: farn dingers wayany!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pamela: ya got that right Meeka: blame it on yolur key bpoRfd Daniel Bienvenu: well, this problem started in march... and I think it was because of a bad windows update that didn't consider the chipset inside the laptop. I had to install a patch by microsoft but things were getting worst after that. JudyS: we think that is board Meeka: oh man, yhay one was baD Pamela: I always do : ) DougS: honestly. she did not have that much to drink today. BobS: translation....blame it on your keyboard Daniel Bienvenu: then I saw this blue screen for the first time. Pamela: I don't need translation - and I don't know what that says about me rich-1: Daniel, would you by any chance have a "live" CD with some Linux distribution on it? Meeka: lol Pamela: I speak jumble really well? Meeka: flad someone dies Daniel Bienvenu: I have the ubuntu ones JudyS: ya, she is using my old computer Neil: Daniel, that error doesn't sound good. I had something similar and eventually had to reinstall Windows from scratch. I had important stuff backed up but I had a heck of a time recovering my unimportant stuff before reinstalling. Meeka: now if ionlty i could stoop0 lauyghing it would help some Daniel Bienvenu: actually, my mother is using my laptop and it appears to work pretty well again. rich-1: consider using the ubuntu for chat if you're having trouble - and also for booting and analytics Pamela: LOL BobS: well quit using those wierd applications Daniel Pamela: scarily enough, some of it makes mroe sense than the computerese I see Pamela: (see?) Meeka: yup Daniel Bienvenu: as soon as I can, I will bought spinrite, a tool that can repair bad data and prevent more damage and corruption. Meeka: that cupter jumbo makles some sence to me, how scary is thsat rich-1: it's OK Daniel, I spent all last night backing up my important stuff because I'll need a reinstall JudyS: scary she is typing again Daniel Bienvenu: http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm Meeka: sticks topung out at mopm Pamela: well Doug has to have rubbed off on you at least a little Neil: Spinrite is a good program. Daniel Bienvenu: you try it? Meeka: yup Neil: I can't remember if I actually used Spinrite, because I had a similar Norton program, but I've read a lot about it. BobS: goto oldversion.com and get a little older version of SpinRite and run it now JudyS: just not too much we hope rich-1: spinrite is one of Gibson's programs? I hadn't realized that. Grc.com is great, too Daniel Bienvenu: the actual version (6.0) seems to support almost anything. Meeka: Pam, i finally finished that tree skirt rich-1: but what are you running? Vista? Daniel Bienvenu: but I have to use a credit card to purchase a liscence... JudyS: and it is beautiful Pamela: wowk, that was quick BobS: not at oldversion.com Daniel Pamela: have you posted the final pictures yet?
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Guy B & Annie changed username to Guy B. Daniel Bienvenu: I'm using Mandriva and Windows XP (home edition) on my desktop, and it's a XP media center edition on my laptop, but the media center part doesn't work anymore... just freeze when starting it, also the windows media player refuse to execute. Pamela: where is Ron this evening? Meeka: http://www.stitchery.hollowdreams.com/StoneyCreek/angel_tree_skirt.htm Guy B.: Ok, I'm back. Firefox crashed. Meeka: there ya go Pam
rich-1 confirmed ban Pamela: Neil, I just realized - I'm not at work tomorrow - I don't know if I'll be able to get that stuff to you by noon because I'll be out all day rich-1: Daniel, XP does not require you to mount your devices - your error message doesn't make sense Pamela: I was gonna say, Meeka, that I'll look at it from work (I have stitchery.hollowdreams bookmarked) where I have high speed Pamela: wow, no errors - good! Pamela: but I'll have to wait until Friday Neil: I think Ron's in a cycling group that happens every Wednesday till the end of August. Meeka: lol JudyS: she does good work, just can't type Meeka: or spell apperntly Daniel Bienvenu: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297185 BobS: quick and easy wsebsite pam you can do it on slow speed Pamela: that's okay we forgive you Pamela: backspace key is my best friend Meeka: ty Pamela: yvw BobS: so, your Firefly crashed eh?????? into what????? JudyS: mine too, pam BobS: I happen to use the frontspace key lots JudyS: my shift key doesn Neil: Pamela (and everyone else), if you can e-mail me the names and dates ASAP, I can worry about the details later. JudyS: t seem to want to work tonight BobS: yes, the round one is getting flatter............ BobS: by the time we see him he sill be a shadow of his former self BobS: will Pamela: I'm anxious to see him rich-1: the main problem, Neil, is getting the cash to you - the hotel would be no problem if they take Visa Neil: I don't have to give the hotel any cash until we check out. Pamela: not even a deposit? Daniel Bienvenu: and lately my desktop computer start acting weird too... a tool I use to convert video files start making errors with messages about a null pointers. and my mouse wheel does a back or next page in firefox or explorer when going up then down. Daniel Bienvenu: for this weird mouse wheel problem I have no clue, no solution Pamela: the mouse wheel can act as another button, Daniel - if you push it it will click on things BobS: you got a sick set of lap;tops Daniel?????????? Neil: Technically they require a deposit ($50 on the meeting room), but they don't actually charge that unless we cancel everything. They have my credit card number. BobS: like as in..........VIRUJS rich-1: it's OK Daniel, I'm getting the same sort of instability - XP also is losing files on me Daniel Bienvenu: it's true that started when I changed for a new mouse because the old one was not working very well. Pamela: so, you're buying? : )) Neil: Wellll, I don't know about that. Pamela: shucks BobS: KILL THEM BOTH Daniel and start over mon Neil: I hope that we have enough people coming to cover the meeting room cost. BobS: Neil, use CANADIAN TIRE money !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 JudyS: told you he is full of it Neil: I don't even have that much Canadian Tire money. BobS: welll but some tires man rich-1: I just bought a new mouse today, Daniel, as the old one was dying - shown by not behaving right BobS: and get the cash Pamela: I have about $.25 right now Daniel Bienvenu: I will be at the adamcon, I want to and I will do everything to be there. BobS: did yo give the old mouse anice send off Richard Pamela: best thing I ever did was get an optical mouse rich-1: nope, it's still on my desk, haven't had time for that yet Pamela: it's lasted far longer than roller mice Pamela: next ambition is a wireless mouse Daniel Bienvenu: if I can save enough money... maybe I will bought another laptop and give the actual one to my mother... she uses it every day to check mail. rich-1: the new mouse if given to doing a lot of flashing even when not being used BobS: and HOW will you know IF the newmouse is working Richard??????? Pamela: interesting Papa rich-1: I am wondering if I have an incipient hard disc failure, or problem on my motherboard - unlikely,but... JudyS: if it leaves mouse turds Meeka: lmao BobS: NO, themouse is 'flashing' you????? Daniel Bienvenu: I have a wireless mouse for my laptop, it was a good purchase, it's better than using the tiny touchpad. Pamela: btw Meeka, Russell thinks you have a computer virus : ) rich-1: well, a mouse flashes when you move it or click with it, of course Pamela: in you, that is Meeka: lol Meeka: doug musta GIvbed it to me DougS: ya, touchpads suck BobS: naw, no vieuses around here, she is using Judy's old laptop rich-1: but this gives quick little flashes sometimes when it's just sitting there Guy B.: Well folks, I'm going to call it the night. Return to work tomorrow. Will see you all next week. JudyS: so does Doug Pamela: our touchpad is way too sensitive Daniel Bienvenu: it's almost 23h... I will try filling the registration form with acrobat reader (if it's possible) as soon as I get it from you, Neil. Pamela: night Guy Pamela: (PRIVATE) hugs to you BobS: be good Guy Daniel Bienvenu: goodnight all. bonne nuit! JudyS: night Guy Guy B.: Same here Niel. I can scan my form and save it as a PDF. Meeka: noigth Guy B.: Sorry about the spelling rich-1: see you, Guy, and give us your flight/arrival data Pamela: Neil, if you send the e-mail now I'll complete it and send it right back Guy B.: I will Rich. Hopefully by the weekend Guy B.: Ok, I'm off. Guy B.: Poof
Guy B. left chat session Neil: I emailed the form 25 minutes ago but it hasn't come through yet. Pamela: not here - I just checked BobS: oh oh.............must be locked away where the sun don't shine Pamela: I'll keep checking for a while yet, and if not tonite, first thing in the morning JudyS: it is stuck in the mail rich-1: Bell seems to have all its lines screwed up all over Toronto, Neil - driving our ISPs nuts BobS: groan Pamela: lost in cyberspace Pamela: mine's working fine Dad Daniel Bienvenu: hmmm... well, do your best to send us the form. I have to go sleep now. talk to you later! Daniel Bienvenu: bye Pamela: night Daniel rich-1: anyway Neil, book us for Thursday through Sunday inclusive, handicap room and parking
Daniel Bienvenu left chat session rich-1: and ask for one that can be also booked for a couple of days before or after - likely before Neil: I have to sign off, so I can get some supper. I'll try to get contact with Dale to see what happened to the email list. Neil: Okay, rich, I will ask about that. BobS: be well Neil rich-1: ok - trust you know where to reach me? Pamela: Dad if you're timing it with us, we plan to go up on 'Sunday the 22nd and stay through the 29th, checking out on the 30th Pamela: Neil, I'll send you an e-mail with as many details as I can, but we're coming for sure rich-1: we are likeliest to go up on the 23rd, checkout on the Monday Neil: Sounds good. I will tentatively ask for those dates. rich-1: but we shall have to see how your mother is feeling Pamela: Meeka, I wish you two were comingl. Having no Slopsemas is going to be weird. BobS: AND lonely too my dear Meeka: i knokw Neil: They need 24 hours notice for changes otherwise they charge one day. Pamela: well we know you'll all be there in spirit BobS: but time and finances do not permit, along with school and work schedules Meeka: i wish we coild havem, but tooo0o much going on right now rich-1: we understand, but we really regret it Pamela: ditto BobS: but we can come for Sat eve chat BobS: knda like being there Meeka: yup JudyS: yes, we will do that Neil: Okay, I'm off. Good night. rich-1: we will do our best to make it a good one - all us lushes with our laptops in one room, eh? BobS: see ya's Pamela: good night Neil. BobS: next week all
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BobS left chat session rich-1: goodnight, Slopsemas all - Doug, take very special care, eh? Meeka: lol Pamela: Night Bob, judy, Doug and Meeka JudyS: going to sign off now, have to have a good night's sleep so am ready for my test, night all Meeka: night Meeka: ttyl Pamela: soon! rich-1: well, with wireless internet, one can do that!
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DougS left chat session Pamela: FYI, we're at the trailer this weekend but not till Saturday morning rich-1: I think so, daughter - you plan to phone this week? Pamela: i may not have time Pamela: tomorrow is Recreation Day for my office and we're at Horseshoe Valley from 9:00 am to 7:00 pm Pamela: and Friday evening Erin and I are going to try to get to the outdoor art show at Nathan Phillips square rich-1: OK - football all four days, but Friday is excessively late - some is on CBC I think Pamela: if I get home at a reasonable hour tomorrow, I'll call rich-1: right - well, we'll see what works out but not count on iot Pamela: I'll always have my cell phone with me and it's got a full charge so you can call it anytime rich-1: OK - your mother may want words; I'll likely be watching the game Pamela: football widow of the world, unite! Pamela: : ) rich-1: OK though we tend to go easy on that - answeering it costs you rich-1: anyhow, night for now Pamela: I'm not worried, never used my 200 minutes yet rich-1: OK Pamela: night Daddy, say gn'ite to Mom for me Pamela: hugs and kisses rich-1: colour me gone Pamela: kerpoof
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