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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Daniel Bienvenu: I'm late? rich-c: no, I'm the only one here so far rich-c: in fact I was getting lonesome
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changed username to BobS Daniel Bienvenu: hi bob BobS: Hi Daniel BobS: Richard........ rich-c: il fait chaud, ces jours, n'est-ce pas? how are you coping? rich-c: allo Roberto BobS: better IF I could speak French rich-c: hey, after Ron tipped us, I let Java upgrade, and tonight it works BobS: Daniel got a problem????? we can help!!!! :-) BobS: tipped us about what????????? rich-c: no, I was just asking him how he likes the heat rich-c: we have 30C predicted for Sunday BobS: heat !!!!!! speaking of which.......on sat is supposed to be REALLY hot here, near 90 * F or about 30* C (?)
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changed username to Pamela BobS: that's waht I mean, HOT HOT HOT BobS: hello Pam BobS: how you are??????? Pamela: Hi Bob, good thanks Pamela: Hi rich-c: yes, we're maybe 18 hours behind you - weather (or air masses) usually moves at about 1000miles in 24 hours Pamela: Dad Pamela: Hi Daniel rich-c: hi Pamela, hear you're going joyriding tomorrow Pamela: we are if Mom's up to it Pamela: we'll see in the morning Pamela: um, does she know where she's going? : ) rich-c: she seems tonight to be looking forward to it Pamela: good Daniel Bienvenu: hi pam rich-c: she knows where she's going, don't know about how to get there
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changed username to Family Guy Pamela: Hi Guy Daniel Bienvenu: guy guy guy rich-c: OK, was that Judy or Guy trying to get in? rich-c: aha - looks like Guy F. Pamela: note to self: bring the map : ) BobS: bring BIG map Family Guy: hi all! BobS: Hi Mr foster rich-c: and bring it in when you come - even before Harris you had to go u a county road, since downloading lord knows what it is BobS: and how is the missis and the kindern????? rich-c: hi Guy Family Guy: (sorry phone)
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changed username to Judy Daniel Bienvenu: hi judy Pamela: hi judy rich-c: welcome Judy rich-c: how are the educational tribulations going? Judy: Hi, Daniel, Panela, Rich, and Family Guy rich-c: you have to - you have to go off the Bayfield exit (unles times have changed since our last trip, and I don't thnk they have) Pamela: when was your last trip?? rich-c: you don't want to know - just when the cottage was sold - like maybe 1972 or so? Family Guy: Hi all, sorry, the phone... BobS: Everything is great! How's work? Pamela: try 1984 Pamela: I was19 rich-c: yes, I realized I had the timeing wrong after I typed it BobS: VERY busy .....working 6 days a week, but that is the life of us stiffs that have to work, right????? Family Guy: BobS: Been on vacation for close to 5 weeks, and I CAN'T WAIT to start working... rich-c: seems to me that given the option, you prefer that to a life of leisure Judy: I had my last class yesterday, now I only have to take exams and I will be done BobS: Guy, yo have to be kidding man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 rich-c: and I trust you are approaching them with full confidence? Pamela: that's good news Judy Judy: yes, it is now maybe things will settle down a little around here Family Guy: BobS: No, not at all... I can't wait to start making $$$. I'm not making much staying home on parental leave, and I work all day cleaning/cooking/taking care of the baby. It's just not worth it for me. :) Family Guy: I went a few days ago to close the pool on my future new house, and took a few pics for all to see: http://web.mac.com/fostergst/iWeb/Guy%20Foster/House%20in%20Laval.html Judy: are you moving again, Guy Family Guy: Yes, to our house in February. Family Guy: 3rd time in 8 months. rich-c: think I have that url copied now Judy: why, so many times? rich-c: sheesh! we've been in the same house since before Pamela was born Family Guy: Well, we had to be flexible. Leases are 1 year in Quebec, so we had to find a place that could accomodate us. Pamela: you can't go month to month after the first year? Family Guy: Not at all... Nowhere! Family Guy: We were lucky to find a place for 6 months, but rent was a bit higher than other places. Pamela: well that's annoying Pamela: so what happens if you leave before your lease is up? Family Guy: You don't. If you do, well, you're stuck paying 3 months rent extra. Family Guy: Which is why we had to move from the first place. They only wanted a 1 years lease, so we would have ended up paying those 3 months. Close to $2000. Pamela: can landlords choose to be flexible? Pamela: ie could your former landlord have chosen to give you six months? Pamela: or nine? Family Guy: No, why would they, when they can rent for 1 years and not have to worry about having to find tenants for 1 whole year. Family Guy: No, they couldn't. We were there for over 10 years, and nothing... Pamela: you'd think they would have wanted to keep good tenants as long as possible rather than venturing into the unknown Family Guy: They pushed us into buying a home though, I was thinking of doing it next year, but... we managed. rich-c: you're lucky, homes are much cheaper there Pamela: do you have a crossover month? Judy: not cool, sometimes you think that people think with there feet Family Guy: It's all relative Rich to the income people make. BobS: or their backside........................... Family Guy: We make less in Quebec and are taxed more than in Ontario. Remember that. rich-c: up to a point - but on your description, I suspect your house would be about $650,000 in Toronto Family Guy: Did you see the pics? BobS: OUCH Pamela: depends on where in Toronto BobS: nice digs, but high for my blood......and income here in Michigan rich-c: yes, outer Scarberia is notably cheaper Family Guy: Yes, but I am not in Montreal either. I'm in a suburb, called Laval. In Montreal, it would have been easily 450-500 Family Guy: We wanted to find a place in Montreal, but it was impossible for us.
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changed username to R.MacFaker Daniel Bienvenu: Ron? R.MacFaker: yeah..... emulating X P on the eMac rich-c: we are in North York, now a part of Toronto (to our disgust) Pamela: faking what Ron? rich-c: hi Ron R.MacFaker: XP on my eMac Family Guy: North York is where my wife was born. R.MacFaker: Nothing is ever standard around here R.MacFaker: so howz all the ADAMites Pamela: where, Guy? rich-c: why would anyone want to emulate XP on anything - except maybe a Vista machine R.MacFaker: because I can Family Guy: Not sure Pam... I could dig up her birth certificate though. :) Won't take too long, be right back. Judy: Hi, Ron R.MacFaker: waiting for OS X to come out for the DOS Box R.MacFaker: Hi Judy howareya? Family Guy: 2460 Keele Street, North York Pamela: that sounds like Northwestern Hospital at Keele and Eglinton rich-c: right - if you can now run (god forbid) XP on the Mac, maybe the good stuff should move to the DOS box Pamela: did she grow up in North York too? Judy: I am fine, Ron, finished my classes this week BobS: Hi ron Family Guy: No, she left as a toddler. Pamela: shux R.MacFaker: good ..... pass with flying colours? R.MacFaker: Hi Bob - ya's lookin' well Judy: I haven't finished all my exams yet Family Guy: I finally got 2 gigs of RAM on my Mac Mini, OS X flies now!!! R.MacFaker: ah.... Pamela: how many bedrooms does the house have again Guy? R.MacFaker: guess so eh? Guy Family Guy: Pam: It has 3 on the upper level, and 1 in the basement. R.MacFaker: a real screamer Pamela: and two baths right? Family Guy: Ron: Yes, from 512, it's flying. Judy: but I did pass my HIPAA last week and found out I had the highest passing score Pamela: well done Judy Family Guy: Pam: 2 1/2 baths. We have a bathroom in the master bedroom, but no shower/bath. BobS: dong good Ron.....tired but good R.MacFaker: Congrats Judy. Way to go!! rich-c: that may have surprised you, Judy, but the rst of us would have expected it Judy: thanks R.MacFaker: glad to hear it Bob R.MacFaker: Bob.... R.MacFaker: You and Doug still got access to any MFM drives? Family Guy: MFM? Is that before or after RLL? rich-c: why the question, Ron? BobS: got a couple here, haven't turned them on in ages. but BobS: there have been some on Ebay though R.MacFaker: trying to repair my ADAM HD Unit.... which don't work none rich-c: more or less contemporary with it, Guy - they wre used for early 3d party Adam drives BobS: yes guy mfm before but similar to rll, and before ide R.MacFaker: Will the Micro Innovations take IDE? Family Guy: ok, I had heard of MFM, but couldn't place it in time. Thx. Pamela: so why were you closing up the pool, Guy? R.MacFaker: I can't remember what I need any more Judy: now I have my next exam on the 15th Family Guy: Pam: For the winter.... BobS: Micro innovations later version use ide, Mrak's original powermate units had mfm's along with disk dreives Pamela: no I meant why you and not the current owners? R.MacFaker: but the Micro Innovations case that had the push pins in it needs some attention. Think it's the HD Family Guy: Pam: Oh, the owner was showing me what to do... It's quite complex, and well, in the spring, I have to open it up myself. rich-c: I am pretty sure my MI hard disc is an IDE unit - and it is a replacement for the original R.MacFaker: ok so I guess it's IDE I need. Can probably get something locally Pamela: okay, that was nice of them rich-c: we just bolted it right in (I had Michael's help) R.MacFaker: Got my ADAM set up again with a 3-1/2 in floppy and 5-1/4 inch floppy Family Guy: Pam: Yes, thoughtful of them. Lots of little things, pool pumps, sprinklers, etc... R.MacFaker: but the HD unit won't work Pamela: and who is the couple in the picture with you and Tamara? R.MacFaker: by the way Rich, tell Frances she will get an e-mail from me tomorrow afternoon with disk images attached, and a bit of a write-up BobS: ok ron, you had a center slot card.............and internal hd right???????? R.MacFaker: yes sir R.MacFaker: that's still ok, so far as I can see BobS: sounds like ide......... rich-c: Frances is going joyriding with Pam tomorrow afternoon, but should get them in the evening Family Guy: Hey Daniel: Didn't see you on-line! Yowza! R.MacFaker: suppose I should take the cover off the MI unit and look.....that might help BobS: external power supply??????? Daniel Bienvenu: me? Family Guy: Yes Daniel, the 1 and only. R.MacFaker: yes, MI external power supply BobS: drive may just say IDE right on it mon Daniel Bienvenu: hi guy Family Guy: hi Dan! ;) Judy: must be Meeka couldn't get in again, she was going to try BobS: I would say almost 99% it must be ide Daniel Bienvenu: did you work again on space hunter? R.MacFaker: expect so, and if that's the case I have a spare 10Gig right here R.MacFaker: won't use much of it, but it'll be better than nothing BobS: won't work, have to have max of 1.6 gig OR speed is too dast to talk tot he ADAM R.MacFaker: Should partition the sucker into a bunch of little drives BobS: anything under 1 gig is best R.MacFaker: ah... BobS: speed is still too fast to talk to the ADAMnet R.MacFaker: will surely one of my junk stores should have one R.MacFaker: that'll make their day..... if I go in and ask for a 520 Meg hard drive R.MacFaker: 0r less
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changed username to Meeka Pamela: Hi Meeka Family Guy: Dan: No, I haven't as of yet. I should, maybe tonight. rich-c: oh, it's OK, it was just hiding behind something on my desk R.MacFaker: know what you mean Rich. Hauled all of my Adam stuff out of the closet last Sun Meeka: hello R.MacFaker: Hey Meeka BobS: MEEKA MADE IT rich-c: hello Meeka, how goes it - and how's Doug doing?
R.MacFaker changed username to Ron Daniel Bienvenu: I have also to work again on my coleco projects. I have arcadia festival soon and december is the deadline for everything I want to release. BobS: man,........time FLIES whilest we have fun and then it is GONE Meeka: yup rich-c: fwiw Ron, I've often had problems with my boot disc for the hard drive - just doesn't like to respond Ron: hunger strikes - bee rite bach Ron: yeah, that's also a possibility Rich..... back in a sec Pamela: I see spell check strikes again BobS: OH, Richard........you were going to tell me why the new Java will work now with XP Judy: you made it I had just said that maybe you couldn't make it in, Hi, Meeka Family Guy: Ron: Are you using Bootcamp or Parallels? Meeka: yup i made it Pamela: how are you Meeka? Family Guy: Rich + Java = not a good combination. LOL. Judy: you get your loot put away? rich-c: I haven't a clue as to why, Bob - all I know is that it didn't before and now it does Meeka: pretty good BobS: ok, a mystery it is Pamela: loot??? rich-c: I think when it balked before it may have sent an error message to Sun - maybe they got enough to identify and fix some little glitch Meeka: yup Pamela: tell rich-c: or I was bitching to Dale and maybe he updated the program BobS: hmmmmmmmm rich-c: all I know is Ron got it and it worked so I tried it again and it works Judy: we were over at Bob's dads apartment, we all could take what we wanted Pamela: oh, that kind of loot, okay Pamela: seems to me that's how we got most of our furniture : ) Judy: he got married Pamela: excuse me??? Judy: that is kinda how we felt Pamela: I guess so Judy: the furniture was gone Pamela: wow BobS: what was left was mom's memento's, etc BobS: and some stuff with our name on it that we were not informed was ther BobS: there Ron: Interesting but not funny Judy: we weren't ever invited to the wedding Pamela: things that were bequests? Meeka: :-P, ya, i did a few minutes ago BobS: some stuff we had given mom BobS: and she put our name on it to be returned to us Pamela: to quote Pamela: Russell, holy cow Ron: exactly Meeka: k, we gonna go to bed early tonigth so I try to be here earlier next week BobS: that works Pam Judy: well, he was lonely Daniel Bienvenu: I tried a chess puzzle online to see if I play well chess. the result : I'm not playing well, in fact I'm one of the worst than a novice. Judy: night then, Meeka, do come earlier next time Pamela: Meeka poofed in a hurry Daniel Bienvenu: goodnight meeka Ron: gone is she rich-c: far as I know the only Adam chess program is a port running under CP/M Judy: she had a shot tonight maybe she wasn't doing well after that Ron: yeah.... Sargon Daniel Bienvenu: Sargon... I know this name... There is a Sargon II for a commodore computer Ron: Same Idea Daniel. Think I have it around here somewhere rich-c: likely it also runs under CP/M Pamela: it's amazing how often you feel crappy after any shot, even those that are supposed to be benign, like boosters or flu shots Ron: medication worse than the problem Pamela: so I can imagine that her shots might make her unwell Judy: no this is for the MS has them on Mon, Wed and Fri Ron: Why do these thing always happen to the nice people?
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: does she do them herself, go to the doctor, or does a nurse come in? Guy B.: Greetings!!!! Judy: makes them stronger Ron: Mr. Bona Pamela: when you figure that out you'll have the key to the world Judy: hi, Guy Pamela: Ron Family Guy: Yo GuyB! Pamela: Hi Guy Ron: the Chicago connection rich-c: hello GuyB BobS: hi guy Guy B.: GuyF, you know that's the name of show on Fox that I despise! Ron: think so Pam.... alls I know is that I'll be around forever Family Guy: Guy: Hahaha, I love that show. Judy: sounds good, Ron Ron: <evil grin> Ron: another equipment thing....... Guy B.: Well, I'm no longer a fan of Family Guy Ron: anybody got an Orphanware interface they're not using.... to connect up Rich Drushels ADAMserve setup on a DOS box? Pamela: I have never had the urge to watch it rich-c: whoops! time for my beer Ron: seem to have lost mine Ron: I pay Guy B.: In case you Canadians haven't heard. Our Chicago Cubs clinched the NL Central and are playing Game 1 against Arizona Diamondbacks right now in the NLDS. BobS: oh boy.........contact Herman and ask if he has one BobS: or GK Ron: right Pamela: I heard Guy Ron: Go CUBBIES! BobS: hlmgmk.com I think ................................OR it is on my webpage under links Pamela: it's the first time the Cubs have made the playoffs in years, right? Ron: Yup, I can find them ok BobS: go to http://www.hlm-gmk.com/ Pamela: woohoo, dollar is still at par BobS: just checked and went ther Guy B.: I'm on the Dell in the kitchen and Annie is wondering when I'm taking her out again] Ron: got an old 386 with a 5-1/4 inch floppy. Runs Windoze 3.1 Haven't got the heart to throw it out BobS: THAT would be the best bet to find another I think Guy B.: 2003 was the last time Pam and we came close to getting in the World Series BobS: AND Herman has the software on disk Ron: right....expect he does rich-c: as wse say about the Blue Jays, Guy - wait till next year! Pamela: surprisingly enough Guy I have no idea whether the Blue Jays made it or not : ) Ron: When was the last time the Cubs were in the post season? Pamela: at least the Jays won the world series in the last ten years Guy B.: I think it was a long time ago for them. Pamela: sorry, fifteen Guy B.: 2003 was the last time Ron: ah rich-c: you mean my old 386 isn't useful any more, Ron? Guy B.: 1908 was the last time the Cubs won the World Series Ron: send it here, I'll set up a pair of them rich-c: that recently? Ron: dual 386's WOW!!! Pamela: as a boat anchor, perhaps Dad Ron: Find it easier to make and test disk images. That's what the 386 is for rich-c: you just don't understand thes3e things, daughter - maybe have to get Ron to explain Ron: It won't run the emulator very well, but it will run the utilities BobS: si senor Ron: Is Frances handy Rich? rich-c: interestingly, apparently even the latest desktops have IDE/ATAPI connections that will support DD 5-1/4 and 3-1/2 floppies BobS: runs the utilities well and also the ADAM-dos program form Dr D Ron: yup Ron: this 386 doesn't know how lucky it is rich-c: within yodelling distance, Ron - need her on? Ron: Ok Rich....ask her (or perhaps you know).... does the have Filemanager (AJM) on her emulator setup? Ron: like as a disk image/ Ron: ?? rich-c: I am pretty sure we do - of course we have the "real thing" if not an image of it Ron: you'll need an image that you can access with the emulator. I can send it along just in case. Daniel Bienvenu: I'm looking for a wifi card for a pc to convert it to a nintendo ds download station to be able to test my creations to my ds console directly without paying and using a hack cartridge to pass the nintendo protection. Ron: That and about 1 para of instructions, you'll be able to make your own 320k images Daniel Bienvenu: I tried one wifi card but it wasn't the right chipset for the custom driver Ron: I'm going to send a couple of blanks she can use with LOGO Pamela: Ron is there a Christmas card this year? rich-c: Frances says yes, File Manager is there as an image Daniel Bienvenu: This is the list of cards : http://ralink.rapla.net/ Daniel Bienvenu: I'm looking for rt2560 based cards. Ron: yes Mam. that's part of my motivation for setting up ADAM. Doing the disk images for Frances is the other. Ron: and there's also just plain having fun like I used to do with my computer back a while Ron: ok good Rich then I'll just send the blanks with a very short "howto" rich-c: back a while - like before you let Redmond take over? Ron: yeah,, somewhere there Daniel Bienvenu: I tried one wifi card, but the revision of it used rt61 chipset rather than rt2560 one. so it didn't work rich-c: I have lots of blank discs and my desktop will format them Ron: but I wanna make sure my procedure works first Ron: amazing how memory of this stuff fades BobS: NO LIE Ron Pamela: sometimes reflex is just as good Ron: But Frances wanted images she could use for her LOGO stuff Ron: I think BobS: the process is kinda fuzzy for a lot of things we used to do Pamela: don't htink just do it Ron: ya got that right Mon rich-c: oh, is there something special about blank discs for use with Logo? or am I jumping to a confusion? Judy: sometimes that doesn't work Pamela: yeah but sometimes it does : ) BobS: I jumped OLFF a confusion once BobS: OFF rich-c: or are you sending images of blank discs? Ron: no, they're just plain blank disks. But if she's going to use them with the emulated LOGO then she'll need images rich-c: unfortunately, the emulator is on the laptop which doesn't have a disc drive Ron: they need to be init'd by Filemanager for EOS Ron: but you can receive e-mail on it right? rich-c: oh yes, it is the computer we use for email (though Thunderbird is wonky at the moment) Pamela: that's the technical term, right Dad? Ron: ok.... so I'm going to send you an e-mail with the images attached, and also a text doc rich-c: yes - surprised you recognized so advanced a term, Pam Ron: after that, you should be able to make your own images right on the laptop without recourse to the outside world Pamela: I'm just full of surprises : ) rich-c: OK, for that matter, push come to shove, I can copy stuff from the laptop onto the USB hard disc then plus it into the desktop Ron: yup Pamela: you'l have your jump drives tomorrow too Dad Ron: all of this assumes that I come up with something that works. Think I've got it right, but need to check. rich-c: oh, the little drives I have now would handle those images, Pam Ron: It's not as tricky for 160 and 320k images as for 720 and 1440 Ron: Also have a 5-1/4 inch version of Guy's Utilities that Bob made up at AC15 rich-c: but the gigabyte drives will solve a different class of problem - like the scanner driver Ron: hello world! Pamela: I love my thumb drives BobS: hello Ron rich-c: we're here, just quiet Ron: thumb drives are cool Ron: right Ron: need one embedded in my head Daniel Bienvenu: #include<stdio.h> printf"hello world!"; Ron: tee hee Daniel Ron: That's the only thing I know how to do in C rich-c: yes, I found gigabyte drives at Future Shop for $10 each - they were o/s but I got a raincheck and Pam cashed it Ron: there ya go Ron: So many projects, so little time. Daniel Bienvenu: PRINT [Hello World] ... in Logo Ron: Have a Manx C Compiler for CP/M here that Tony Morehen gave me 15 years ago Daniel Bienvenu: Print "Hello world" ... in Basic Ron: need to actually use it Pamela: I was prepared to argue but they didn't give me a hassle. I'm impressed. rich-c: yes, the Future Shop is a long way for me but just up the street for her - we coordinated well Ron: ah so Pamela: you should have tried the one here at Crossroads Dad - it's probably just as close as Leaside Daniel Bienvenu: writeln('Hello world'); Daniel Bienvenu: ... in pascal Ron: remember that vaguely Daniel Ron: db 'hello world' rich-c: it's about a sawoff, but going on 401 makes your mother twitchy Daniel Bienvenu: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_world Pamela: and why do you need to get on the 401? Take Wilson rich-c: now write it in CP/M, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: I'm wondering why the english version of this wiki page didn't include all the languages for the "hello world" classic test program. rich-c: likely a space issue, Daniel rich-c: Keele and Wilson is deadly - takes all day Pamela: not in the middle of the day it doesn't Ron: By the way, if anybody wants to take a look at my latest photographic efforts, go to http://picasaweb.google.com/redmitch319 Ron: just thought I'd throw that in Pamela: the best time to travel around this town during the day is between 9:30 and 11:30 am Pamela: and I'd rather take Wilson than Lawrence any day Ron: Wilson.... I remember Wilson Ron: And Lawrence Ron: they were both plugged as I recall Pamela: if you drive them at rush hour, they are Ron Ron: indeed BobS: you are gettign to be quite a photographer ron rich-c: neither is any joy, Ron - of course I'm no longer up at the hours Pamela mentioned - or not driving yet, anyway Ron: it's fun, and some actually turn out BobS: pics look GOOD mon Ron: thank you sir rich-c: didn't know Google has a picasa photo storage website, Ron - one of the others is closing down BobS: like the 'airport' one and the boats reflectiolns inthe water Ron: I don't know how long they've been offering this service Rich, but the camera club just discovered it a couple of months back Ron: we really like it Ron: and the price is right rich-c: well, there are lots, like imagebucket and flickr and such, but how trustworthy are they? Judy: it that time again, so night all talk to you next week Pamela: good night Judy rich-c: goodnight Judy, now go ace the rest of those tests! Ron: flickr we're going to check out. Was talking about that the other night at our meeting with one of the memberts Ron: Night Judy. Be well Ron: good luck with the exams Judy: will try rich-c: and Bob, guess you'll be off too - take care
Judy left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit judy Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit bob BobS: yup, got to go, early day again tomorrow BobS: next week all.................................. Pamela: night Bob rich-c: I found the flickr interface a bit of a pain - they do not explain things well BobS: and I am OFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 Ron: night Bob Daniel Bienvenu: it's close to 23h... I leave too. BobS: nite
BobS left chat session Ron: ah... noted Rich. We all Like Picasa's way of doing business rich-c: right, Daniel - a la prochaine Daniel Bienvenu: well, goodnight all! talk to you next week. Ron: all 50 of us Pamela: bonne nuit, Daniel Ron: night Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: a la prochaine, aurevoir, a la semaine prochaine. Guy B.: t BobN Ron: ballgame still on Guy? Daniel Bienvenu: |-) zzzzzzzzzz *poof*
Daniel Bienvenu left chat session rich-c: some folks are concerned that their images are too easy to download Ron: yeah, they probably are, and if you're interested in copyrighting your work, that could be a problem Ron: There are many other photographer sites where the pro's hang out rich-c: but I figure if you don't want to be copied all over the 'net, watermark and copyright Ron: we just hit on this as a way of sharing our photo's after a day out rich-c: and why not? there's one of our carnuts will take over 900 photos in one day Ron: yes Pamela: I must admit I love my digital Ron: I 've never done that many. Think my high is around 150 Guy B.: Well, I'm off too. Going to see how the Cubs are doing Pamela: and I'm using it more than I ever did my film camera Pamela: gnite Guy Pamela: (PRIVATE) hugs to you Family Guy: I just bought a new digital camera a few days ago, a Canon A550. For the price I paid, it's incredible! Also got 4.0 gigs to go along with it. Ron: Niters Guy. Be well rich-c: goodnight then, Guy - hope you enjoy the game Ron: cheer for the Cubs Ron: that's a nice unit Guy Ron: my sister has one of those, and it'll do everything my $900. Pentax will do rich-c: Frances has the Canon A530, essentially the same camera, and she is quite happy with it. Family Guy: Ron: It's an entry level camera, but has features that a lot of more advanced cameras have. I wasn't ready to shell out $500+ for a camera. But I am fully satisfied with it, even if it doesn't have a lot of the better features nowadays.
Guy B. left chat session Ron: Yup.... there ya go Ron: and mine isn't top of the line by any means Ron: Somewhere mid-range rich-c: Guy, the way camera technology is moving these days, yours was obsolete before it hit the store shelves Pamela: Mine is a Fuji Finepix A610 Ron: But the thing is now, the newer ones are getting smaller and have more features Family Guy: Rich: A550 has 7 megapixels, A530 has 5 megapixels. No biggie there. I am really happy with mine, and will use it till it breaks, like my older Fuji Finepix 1400Z camera I bought in 2000. rich-c: they're even worse than computers at the moment - I have a Casio 7.2 MP Exelim Ron: When it comes to photography, I still don't know what I want to be when I grow up Ron: there's so many possibilities Family Guy: I didn't want to get any camera which uses Li-Ion batteries, only AA! Pamela: mine uses 2 AA rechargeables but will take regular AA batteries rich-c: for us the critical issue was for it to have an optical viewfinder, and I wanted image stabilization Ron: Something to be said for that Guy. I have two Li-ions, and last week they were both dead. Would have been nice to run into a store and pick up some AA's just to get thru the day Ron: that's what attracted me to the K10D (Pentax) Rich. The image stabilization has helped me immensely Family Guy: Yes, optical viewfinders are not a standard feature anymore. My camera doesn't have the stabilizer, but that would have been an extra $80 or so. Not worth it for me IMHO. rich-c: I take most of my pictures in 800x600 size, 3 mp resolution - anything else burns soptrage space usellessly for me Family Guy: Rich: I have 4.0 gigs, so I embrace large pictures. :) Pamela: It came in handy at the War museum when my first set of batteries died Ron: that's usually good enough Rich, unless you're going to make a 16x20 printed picture Ron: 8x10's are fine Ron: only thing I find with my 10.2 Megapix is that I can crop into stuff I couldn't get with the Nikon rich-c: mine are for home use, or web posting where Ron: yeah, that's right.... and it depends on what you want to do rich-c: standard is 800x600 anyway, and 640x480 can be better rich-c: and anything over about 100 dpi is wasted Ron: The club I'm in are very much into making prints, framing them, matting them and displaying them as art Ron: not so sure as I'm going there Family Guy: Well, when one wants to zoom into something, higher resolution is better. Ron: I like DVD slide shows better rich-c: oh yes, if you want to get detail in a long telephoto, very high resolution is very helpful Pamela: you just love your tech toys Ron Ron: oh yeah Family Guy: What I love about my new camera is that I can take movies!!! It's an incredible digital video recorder as well... Very impressed. rich-c: it's a guy thing, Pam Ron: Was at a Mac club meeting last night, and our local merchant brought along one of the new iPODSS Ron: iPODS Pamela: no its not, I love my tech toys too Ron: I'm trying to speak stearnly to myself Family Guy: Yes, I am drooling over the new iPods, I have an 80gb iPod last year, and it seems like I'm outdated now. rich-c: oh, Pam - looked for HUB today but it wasn't in the box Ron: ya can't win with Steve Jobs Pamela: got me a 1G MP3 player too - same size as a thumb drive. I mean, how cool is this? Ron: you're always going to be behind Pamela: that's okay Dad, I haven't read last month's yet rich-c: don't know if it isn't published yet or sold out already Pamela: why do you need 80 gig? Family Guy: My Mac Mini is outdated, but works perfectly for me... I might end up giving it to my daughter in a few years when she starts learning how to use a computer. Pamela: how many songs is that? Ron: well, my son Jeff says, (and he just bought one) that he's going to put his entire music collection on it Family Guy: Pamela: Movies. Ron: I dunno Ron: why I would need 80 G Ron: yeah, the graphics will chew up the space Ron: I mean you can get TV shows as podcasts now rich-c: why would anyone need to carry a bunch of feature films arrounf with him? Pamela: yeah but who wnats to watch them on a 2" screen? Family Guy: Pamela: I have a TV out, and can basically use it as portable music/Dvd player. When we went to CUBA I was able to put 20 or so DVDs on my iPod, and all we had to do was connect it to the TV and tada! I also have my ENTIRE picture collection of over 5000 pics, etc.... Ron: I know Rich. Suppose the answer is, "Because you can" Ron: there ya go Family Guy: Yes, been doing the iTunes podcast thingy for a while now, it's great. Watching a movie on a tiny screen is doable, but I enjoy the TV out feature. Carry an iPod, a small cable, and that's it. rich-c: too much like work for my taste. Besides, isn't Cuba on the PAL protocol? Family Guy: iPod can adapt to whatver system you have. Ron: Oh I suspect it's just a matter of time before I have one of the new ones Family Guy: Well, it's better than lugging 5 family albums full of pictures, 40 or so DVDs, and 300 CDs with you. Ron: gadget guy strikes again Ron: true Pamela: that's true. I tend to think only in terms of music still Family Guy: Also... a neat feature that not too many people know. rich-c: just make sure you back it up - regularly Family Guy: I can connect my digital camera and upload all of my pics to the iPod and free up space on my camera. Family Guy: My Mac Mini syncs everything to my iPod, I have everything on my Mac Mini. Ron: What I'd like to know is what's the new iPOD display like outside in bright sunlight rich-c: yes, or you can just put in a new memory card, or transfer them to your computer, or... Ron: have yet to meet an LCD that does well outdoors Family Guy: Yes, but you need to lug around yoru computer... new memory card, well, that's more $$$. Family Guy: I think in terms of portability... I have my iPod, digital camera, and I'm good for a few months! :) Ron: One of the problems I have with my camera is seeing the LCD in bright daylight....also the Mac Book, and the HP PDA rich-c: ah well - I belong to a digital age that thinks in kilobytes Ron: right Rich. Pamela: I'm finding that too Ron - I took many of my river tour pictures in Ottawa by instinct : ) Ron: yeah, Pam - exactly, and that was bright sunlight rich-c: I, on the other hand, have yet to use the viewscreen that I can recall Pamela: especially standing on the dock on the Gatineau side, waiting for the tour boat Ron: yup rich-c: I just used the optical viewfinder and fired away Pamela: I didn't realize mine didn't have a viewfinder until that day Ron: One feature this Pentax has that I've yet to really use is a "preview ": feature. You can take a shot and have it appear on the LCD, but it doesn't actually get recorded on the card Pamela: never bothered to check when I bought it (which admittedly was only the Saturdya before) Ron: but if you can't see the LCD, then it's not much use Pamela: we need to get parasols for our cameras Ron Ron: one thing I discovered recently is that the viewfinder works best if I take my glasses off rich-c: I thought the Fujis still had viewfinders - guess you have a renegade model Ron: that's right Pam Pamela: finally, a use for those little paper umbrellas! Ron: On the Penax, the viewfinder is for taking pics, the LCD is for looking at them after Ron: and never the twain shall meet rich-c: after all my years with a film SLR, a camera doesn't feel natural without it's against my face Ron: that's what most of my buddies think too. I have a little 6.2 MegPix point and shoot (Panasonic) that will let me see what I'm taking on the LCD. No viewfinder Pamela: I don't miss the viewfinder especially Pamela: at least not yet Ron: and apparently OIympus will let you do either Ron: one photographer's meat is anothers poison Pamela: anyway gents, it's time for bed Ron: yeah.... I'm gonna go back and play with ADAM Pamela: so Dad, I'll see you tomorrow at 11:00 rich-c: yes, Pam, I agree - what time will you be here tomorrow? Ron: look for an e-mail around 6pm your time Rich Pamela: Ron and Guy, I'll see you next week rich-c: thanks Ron Ron: niters Pam Ron: g'nite all Ron: pooooooffff!!!!
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