rich-c: hi rich, been missing you of late Dr. D.: Hi Richard, it has been hard to get here of late. rich-c: I know the feeling, but I've been lucky enough to manage rich-c: how are things doing over in Cleveland? Dr. D.: I was actually in Toronto Sunday, but had to leave Monday because I got sick and didn't want to get stuck in Canada where my health insurance doesn't work. Dr. D.: Winter is here, cold and windy and some blowing snow. rich-c: yes, we're actually seeing our first freezing temperatures now, if just barely rich-c: how is Rin doing? Dr. D.: Driving back was very hard, especially since it was pouring rain Monday night. Dr. D.: She is trying to land a job after Steve didn't get put back into cabinet.
moved to room Meeting Place Dr. D.: It seems to have hit her very hard.
changed username to Daniel Bienvenu rich-c: thetrip can get pretty rough in the rain and dark Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Dr. D.: Part of the reason I went to Toronto, I was just delayed by pre-existing commitments here that I couldn't leave. Daniel Bienvenu: I'm late? rich-c: salut, Daniel Dr. D.: Hi Daniel. Dr. D.: You are not late. rich-c: non, tu es de bonne temps, je pense Daniel Bienvenu: parfait rich-c: officially it's 9 on the dot but we do not all always make it Daniel Bienvenu: I prepare my stock to go to Arcadia (November 9-11). rich-c: right, that's the big gaming meeting, right? Daniel Bienvenu: I have to program something, so I can chat a little bit Daniel Bienvenu: yes, a mini E3 that is big for me. rich-c: why, how big is a miniE3? rich-c: does party central just assign Rin somewhere, or does someone have to ask for her? Dr. D.: She has some advocates on both sides of the aisle, she just has to pick what she likes best. Daniel Bienvenu: 75 000 squared feets rich-c: that is the size of the meeting hall, Daniel? Daniel Bienvenu: well, it's the surface for the event. yes rich-c: or rather, teh whole convention floor?
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changed username to BobS rich-c: right - that's a pretty fair size, too BobS: Hi all rich-c: allo, Roberto - how are you this evening? Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Bob rich-c: cold day like this reckon you'll be a bit tired Dr. D.: Hi Bob Dr. D.: I am trying to get my shrinking American dollars to be fruitful and multiply :-S BobS: doing good, and ya'll???? Daniel Bienvenu: I thin we had snow today, but it didn't stay. Probably have ice on the road tommorow BobS: ya right, not happenin BobS: YUCK ice
moved to room Meeting Place Dr. D.: No more quips about "funny money" now, since it's ours that is the funny money rich-c: yes, last thing you need driving around is a bit of verglas rich-c: yeah, that Yankee peso is taking quite a beating, isn't it? ; - ) Daniel Bienvenu: bank of canada have only one word to say to make canadian dollar again bellow the us dollar. BobS: and that word would be what? rich-c: true, Daniel, but they are unlikely to say it
changed username to Meeka Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Meeka rich-c: two words really, Bob - "interest rate" BobS: we have had ablast of cold artic air, and I hope that it leaves this weekend
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changed username to Meeka BobS: that's 2 words,notone Meeka: lol, lets try this agian rich-c: hi Meeka, see you made it this time Meeka: hello everyone Daniel Bienvenu: hello Meeka: ya, i hit the x instead of the minimize button rich-c: that's always good for a laugh rich-c: my specialty is hitting the Windows key BobS: and you are REALLY good at it too ! Daniel Bienvenu: at arcadia, this year, they give us a "t-shirt" to wear, so I can't bring the wonderful colecovision t-shirt I got this year. rich-c: anyway, we had very little moisture bit lots of cloud and strong cold wind today BobS: we had that weather yesterday Richard
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changed username to RonaldMcDonald Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Ron RonaldMcDonald: Yo! Meeka: hi ron BobS: BUT now the blurb onthe tv says another blast is one the way Dr. D.: You dyed your hair red? BobS: Hi Ron rich-c: wear their t-shirt UNDER the Adamcon one - Daniel - tell them it's cold in there! ;-) RonaldMcDonald: (munching on a burger) Meeka: is mom comming tonight dad?
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: the left copast has arrived early Dr. D.: Rin says "ooh, that's not good", Ron.
changed username to Judy Daniel Bienvenu: @ Ron : I finaly find it. I find the boardgame I invented based on the video game history, where you have to develop your company to make them. RonaldMcDonald: I'm not really. Was gonna stop on the way home from Weight Watchers, but that seemed a little hypocritical Judy: Hi, Daniel, Rich, Dr D, Ron and Meeka Dr. D.: haha RonaldMcDonald: So I've yet to have supper BobS: YUP Dr. D.: Hi Judy and Meeka Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Judy rich-c: welcome, Judy RonaldMcDonald: Hey Judy! Meeka: hi mom Meeka: hi dr d Dr. D.: Well, he could have stopped at Burger King Meeka: mom..... Daniel Bienvenu: @ Ron : it's all in french, but maybe you can read it now. Meeka: guess what kinda bird visited the yard today RonaldMcDonald: nah..... If I'm gonna sin deeply it has to be Harvey's RonaldMcDonald: and there ain't one in these parts rich-c: rose-breasted grosbeak BobS: BIG BIRD????? Dr. D.: No BK on the island? Judy: a humming bird RonaldMcDonald: oh yes, we have one of those..... but haven't been there in months Meeka: tufted timouse and red-breasted nutchatches :) RonaldMcDonald: in fact I haven't been to McDonalds in months RonaldMcDonald: bad for what ails me Dr. D.: Roc bird rich-c: wow, that's seriously late, does not bode well for its survival Judy: that is cool Dr. D.: or dodo Meeka: the book says they around here in winter time BobS: cool Meeka: ya, i got some great pic's of them too BobS: good will have to seethem Judy: good for you rich-c: I can't see ahummingbird surviving your winter Judy: I was putting my houses up, what a job BobS: no, they sometimes stay late, but leave for the south Meeka: they already up if ya wanna dad BobS: ok Judy: we saw one last Nov at Bob's parents apartment RonaldMcDonald: So........ official announcement follows re the annual ADAM Community Xmas card RonaldMcDonald: need your input any time Dr. D.: Official announcement of what? RonaldMcDonald: sometime between now and Nov 25 RonaldMcDonald: The Annual ANN XMAS carderoo Dr. D.: Nevermind I understand now Dr. D.: I missed the Re: rich-c: I will tell Frances now that she has Logo going on the emulator Daniel Bienvenu: ho yes, I have a picture I didn't send last year for the christmas card.... Where it is... arg, I can't remember... rich-c: though I am not sure how she would transmit it Judy: great pictures, Meeka Dr. D.: It just has to be a PowerPaint screen right? Meeka: ty RonaldMcDonald: yes, that's it RonaldMcDonald: a Powerpaint screen in whatever Powerpaint format rich-c: or Logo, that's OK too, isn't it? RonaldMcDonald: yep, LOGO's good Dr. D.: I think I can manage that still. Judy: will have to get the seed out, have been neglecting them lately RonaldMcDonald: seed? Meeka: ya, i had been too rich-c: birds - put it out, they come (do they ever) Meeka: I just filled them the begining of the week RonaldMcDonald: ah... RonaldMcDonald: My intent is to purchase a feeder. Don't currently have one rich-c: our feeders can take filling every day Judy: the sparrows were taking over and was getting sick of feeding them RonaldMcDonald: around here, it's crows, Stellar Jays and sparrows RonaldMcDonald: and some demented robins who forget to go south Dr. D.: Rin just phoned, so I think I am going to logout. rich-c: we looked at our sparrows and a lot of them are not the English "sparrows" Dr. D.: She says hi. RonaldMcDonald: right Dr. D... say hi to Rin RonaldMcDonald: on my behalf Judy: say hi back Dr. D.: Just did, she says hi back Dr. D.: And to you too Judy rich-c: OK Rich, say hi back, and take care Dr. D.: And Uncle Richard Dr. D.: nite all
Dr. D. left chat session RonaldMcDonald: niters sir Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nit Dr.D ... too late RonaldMcDonald: Hows Doug doing Meeka? rich-c: anyway Ron, we have a feeder that isn't squirrel proof but is highly squirrel resistant Meeka: good Meeka: messing around with new servers for work that he got off of e-bay RonaldMcDonald: squirrels..... yes, they can be a problem RonaldMcDonald: Good to hear Meeka Meeka: ya, they nasty buggers RonaldMcDonald: we don't have 'em around hee, but we do have chipmunks RonaldMcDonald: and coons Meeka: we gots them too rich-c: we have our feeder hanging from one of those "shepherds crook" devices - but the little tree rats can climb it RonaldMcDonald: yup, they're really quite ingenious from what I've heard rich-c: however, a good squirt from the garden hose om the "jet" setting discourages them mightily RonaldMcDonald: yup RonaldMcDonald: I've taken a garden hose to quarreling cats rich-c: yes, it does tend to change their main interest to a hasty exit RonaldMcDonald: indeed rich-c: our feeder is a collapsible cage with brass top and bottom plates and fine mesh screen RonaldMcDonald: sounds like it ought to be secure rich-c: the chickadees and sparrows can get seed out easily - also the nuthatch, cardinals, bluejays and woodpeckers BobS: BUT,most any little critter has a uncanny way of figuring out a way to thwart the best of seeders BobS: feeders rich-c: the squirrel climbs on it and spills a certain amount out, then tries to know through it RonaldMcDonald: creative rich-c: sorry, gnaw Meeka: ours just eat plastic :-P
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changed username to Pamela Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Pam Meeka: hello Pam rich-c: hi daughter, made it home OK I see Judy: Hi, Pam Daniel Bienvenu: before I forgot. I talked with Neil about the extra money. It's ok. Pamela: hi there RonaldMcDonald: Pamela! BobS: hiya Pam Judy: that is good, Daniel Pamela: I did make it home, in very good time. It was 8:59 when I got out of the car. Pretty good! Pamela: 17 minutes door to door rich-c: yes, it was past 8.40 when you left - you must have hit the lights just right Daniel Bienvenu: having back some money will certainly help, because the holidays. rich-c: did you use 401 or Lawrence? BobS: went across backyards directly tohome Richard....................... Pamela: neither, Pamela: Wilson Daniel Bienvenu: @ Ron : Can you take an URL note somewhere? I find back the web page I did in the past to let everybody download the boardgame I invented... the boardgame I'm talking about video games and stuff. Pamela: hit most of the lights rich-c: right, I'd forgotten that out of rush hour that route can have advantages Pamela: yes at night it's much better rich-c: what's that street you take under the 401? Daniel Bienvenu: Well, this is the link. Have fun to try reading the instructions and stuff. http://www.chez.com/cdi//societe/index.html Pamela: Wendell Pamela: on this end, you mean, I assume rich-c: right - I keep thinking Welland but that's over in our neighbourhood Daniel Bienvenu: I have to go back programming, Arcadia festival is soon. RonaldMcDonald: Got it Daniel rich-c: right, Daniel, and it is good for us when you show well RonaldMcDonald: will go check it out rich-c: it's good, Daniel, when you mention your websites in the chat, because then anyone interested can go look them up in the chat logs later rich-c: wonder where GuyF is tonight? Maybe Sandra decided to go into labour? BobS: ah ha.........a thought indeed Pamela: I don't think she would have any choice in the matter! rich-c: yes, he is usually on by this time, even if he can't stay long rich-c: but the our other Guy isn't here either Pamela: I think that Guy F went back to work this week - he may not be home yet Pamela: and as for Mr. Bona, I suspect he'll get here in the next 15 minutes rich-c: yes, he did say he'd be going back, but unless he has overtime he usually makes it in fairly soon RonaldMcDonald: pre-cognition Pamela? Pamela: nah, just experience RonaldMcDonald: oh Pamela: I think Guy forgets that it's 9:00 eastern, not central : ) rich-c: there are days when one might almost think so RonaldMcDonald: 10:30 in Newfoundland Pamela: 6;00 pacific RonaldMcDonald: yes - RonaldMcDonald: so now that we have it all straight rich-c: one thing Canada is not short of os time zones RonaldMcDonald: true Pamela: I must say it's a good thing its a late start for me Pamela: I don't get home from work till 6:15 RonaldMcDonald: So Bob, are you keeping your head above water? RonaldMcDonald: work wise I mean
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changed username to UbuntuG RonaldMcDonald: oh yes..... something about that paycheque Pamela: that's good Bob BobS: Got some good news onthe Habitat job, it seems secure as of now rich-c: looks like he might be here now Meeka: thats good to hear Pamela: I'd hate to think you were working for free RonaldMcDonald: good stuff! UbuntuG: Greetings!!!! Pamela: Meeka, where did you come from??? BobS: 1 of the other supervisors was let go last week, so I am in the # 2 spot [or three] Daniel Bienvenu: Est-ce que c'est le loup? RonaldMcDonald: we were just talking about you Guy rich-c: glad to hear that - not that winter construction is any treat Meeka: been here forever :-P Pamela: were you on when I got here??? Meeka: where you been Pam Meeka: lol Pamela: OMG, I am blind Meeka: ya Pamela: Hi, Guy Pamela: <sorry> UbuntuG: It's Guy B Meeka: np UbuntuG: I'm on Ubuntu RonaldMcDonald: with Ubuntu Judy: Hi Guy RonaldMcDonald: 7.10 ?? UbuntuG: 7.004 Daniel Bienvenu: Hello Guy. UbuntuG: 7.04 BobS: so tomorrow I tellthe rest home that I am leavingt, cut back on hours until they hire someone new to replace me RonaldMcDonald: just as good UbuntuG: I had to get the Java plugin rich-c: Guy B? that's unusual - you on the ^.x version or the new 7.02? BobS: and hipe and keep fingers crfossed that the Habitat thing does work well for a few years Pamela: fingers toes and eyeballs, Bob RonaldMcDonald: be sure you're on the right side of the bridge before you burn it Bob RonaldMcDonald: just a little philosophy there Pamela: and Judy what's the word on your job search? Pamela: is that the voice of experience, Ron? RonaldMcDonald: ah ha UbuntuG: I had a problem with the Athlon's hard drive. Win98 said it had some bad sectors. Ran Western Digital's utilities and did a full hard drive scan. Said it found no errors rich-c: but you've been carrying a double load long enough you're overdue to put it down Judy: not a thing here, have been sending out resumes but have Wed Nov 07 21:54:50 GMT-05:00 2007: BobS : BobS: for sure Ron, am going to exit slowly and with the offer to help out if they need help at any time. that way maybe I can keep the rest home onthe hook for awhile RonaldMcDonald: right on Rich RonaldMcDonald: that's the way to do it Pamela: it may take a few weeks, Judy Pamela: everyone I've talked to recently says 6-8 weeks before you start seeing results Pamela: Guy, I meant to ask you - how did you end up working for Rotary? rich-c: yes, but Judy is in a shortage field where there's high demand RonaldMcDonald: Lord grant her patience, and she wants it now Judy: that would be good, around here it is 8-10 months maybe longer Pamela: amen UbuntuG: I found an opening in a college newspaper at the time. rich-c: that's ordinary jobs, Judy - your qualifications are now somewhat special Pamela: were you still in college?? Judy: I am working tomorrow at church to learn the phone system Judy: should be good knowledge for me RonaldMcDonald: experiences like that are valuable Judy rich-c: yes, they are pretty standardised now, but can still be tricky RonaldMcDonald: do human beings actually answer the phone anywhere these days? Pamela: a little reception / switchboard experience never hurt anyone Meeka: yup, we do it at work all the time Judy: we are watching Ryan this week-end, so that will keep me busy RonaldMcDonald: fer sure eh UbuntuG: No, I already graduated back in 1978. I had my first computer job back in 1979, but it didn't quite work out. So I left in 1980 and then I found an opening at Rotary. rich-c: only at the good companies, Ron, and they are getting rarer by the day RonaldMcDonald: yeah, thas what I thot RonaldMcDonald: How old is Ryan now? Pamela: so you've been there for 27 years? Meeka: almost 7 Judy: 6 will be 7 the 10th of Jan UbuntuG: I sat in Annie's training class last night and she did very well with Jeanene RonaldMcDonald: geez! time flies! UbuntuG: Yep Pamela: holy cow Meeka: 7th of jan Mom Pamela: that's unusual in this day and age Meeka: your anniversary is the 10th UbuntuG: Probably a chatterbox at that age. RonaldMcDonald: details details, eh Judy? Judy: yah, you are right, the 10th is our anniversary RonaldMcDonald: these things get kinda clouded after a while Pamela: I've been through 7 jobs since high school RonaldMcDonald: it's Aspartame time RonaldMcDonald: brb UbuntuG: I had one part-time job in my senior year of high school and through college. Rotary is my second full-time job rich-c: the sweetener in Diet Coke is aspartame? Pamela: that's an unusual date Judy UbuntuG: There is Diet Coke with Splenda now. The label has a yellow band RonaldMcDonald: in the States yes, Guy. Can't get it here yet rich-c: it makes a difference? Pamela: that's just the full time jobs, Guy RonaldMcDonald: The still want to kill off us Canucks as quickly as possible Judy: Bob had time off of school, so we could get married without him missing any classes Meeka: it does taste diff UbuntuG: Hmmm, not in Canada yet? Pamela: doesn't include the part time ones I've done UbuntuG: Wow RonaldMcDonald: we are 10 years behind UbuntuG: Pam, you like your new job now? Daniel Bienvenu: I will try to not forget the picture for the adamcon xmas card. Pamela: I do Daniel Bienvenu: talk to you later. UbuntuG: That what matters Pamela: when I'm not trying to quit, that is Meeka: loll RonaldMcDonald: if you can do something Daniel I'd sure appreciate it Daniel Bienvenu: I have to quit now. I need to concentrate more on my project. Pamela: since my boss refuses to allow me to quit . . . : ) UbuntuG: Bye Daniel Pamela: night Daniel RonaldMcDonald: right Daniel..... be well monsieur rich-c: goodnight then, Daniel - a la prochaine Judy: bye Daniel Meeka: nigth daniel Pamela: it's usually right before a big renewal Daniel Bienvenu: and Ron, if you have questions about my boardgame, the link gives you only the short version. there is a long version with more cards and stuff. BobS: nite Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: bye! RonaldMcDonald: ok sir. Will note that Daniel Bienvenu: should be fun to make in a video game... oh well... goodnight! Judy: it may be hard to get a job in the medical field because they all want a year or two of experience rich-c: so Guy, is this your first time around with Ubuntu? Pamela: around the 25th of October, right before the biggest renewal of the year, I turned to my boss and said "by the way, did I mention that I quit?"
Daniel Bienvenu left chat session Pamela: she said, not until after the first Meeka: lol Judy: how do you get experience if no one will hire you? Pamela: and I said - but by then I'll have changed my mind. Pamela: She said "exactly". rich-c: find an office that needs a second worker RonaldMcDonald: the usual vicious circle RonaldMcDonald: no experience, no job... how to you get experienc? UbuntuG: Yes with the chat tonight. I've been configuring this on the Dell for the past couple of weeks Pamela: not so dumb, my boss rich-c: well Judy, you have lots of otehr experience, if I recall Judy: that is what they tell me but so far the employer aren't seeing it that way rich-c: Guy, the computer paper here says the new Ubuntu can be run from a USB flash drive Judy: and the one place that seems to be hiring has me locked out of the web-site, can only apply so many times rich-c: give teh shortae in your area I'm surprised the employers can afford to be picky RonaldMcDonald: I don't know about a flash drive Rich, but I can boot it from a USB external RonaldMcDonald: which is how a flash drive would show up really Judy: there are a lot of people to choose from with the amount of unemployment here rich-c: I'd love to install it on my external USB hard disc and run it from there - have a nice empty bootable partition too RonaldMcDonald: Michigan still having problems? Judy: more and more Meeka: yup rich-c: brb - I'm thirsty too ; - ) RonaldMcDonald: all tied to the auto industry UbuntuG: I've been reading that on the forums and I thought about that for my notebook computer without messing up WinXP Judy: and any other manufacturer that can do it cheeper in any other place RonaldMcDonald: exactly RonaldMcDonald: Guy, you have to be careful with that..... when the Ubuntu installer sets up GRUB, it'll do it on the Master Boot Record unless you specify otherwise. RonaldMcDonald: Your Win XP will still boot, but what that means is if you install Ubuntu on an external drive, you always have to have that drive present RonaldMcDonald: otherwise neither XP nor Ubuntu will boot rich-c: that is a most significant warning, Ron - glad you mentioned that RonaldMcDonald: I've had no luck whatever in telling Ubuntu to put GRUB on a boot block on the external drive. That setting used to be there, but it's not now so far as I can see Pamela: how's your typing Judy? Pamela: WPM I mean Judy: not bad they say, about 45 words a minute Judy: 35 wpm is what they say they want Pamela: is that all?
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changed username to DougS rich-c: Ron, if you can get HUB: The Computer Paper out your way, they have q story coming about putting Ubuntu on a flash dri e and booting from there BobS: need practise to get better Pam Judy: I have been working on it again, but the program that works the best isn't that good Pamela: everyone I've seen says at least 50 and preferably 60 UbuntuG: That I read. But, I'm not going to try that right now. At the moment, the Athlon I'm getting ready to install a BIOS upgrade before I install the Trios hard drive selector and WinXP on a seperate HD, much like I did with the Compaq Pamela: it's easy to practice Pamela: Hi Doug UbuntuG: HI Doug DougS: hi all Judy: Hi, Doug RonaldMcDonald: right Guy RonaldMcDonald: Hey Doug! BobS: hi son rich-c: hello Doug! Pamela: Judy, btw where did you get your copy of MS Office? BobS: secret Judy: was on my computer when we bought it RonaldMcDonald: she could tell you, but then she'd have to shoot you Pamela: ah. Trying to find a copy for my aunt. BobS: we only bought the computer becasue it had WinXP, Ms Office and other stuff Pamela: She lost hers in a recent crash Judy: try ebay Pamela: and I don't know where hers originally came from rich-c: so give her Open Office, Pam - it will do the job BobS: si rich-c: I can burn her a copy RonaldMcDonald: Open office - yes, it works fine, and the price is right rich-c: now, if you download the latest Java RTE update, they throw in Open Office free Pamela: does it work exactly the same way as MS Office? RonaldMcDonald: No, Pam and that's usually the rub rich-c: pretty much, I gather, and the files are interchangable RonaldMcDonald: It's so very close now, but there are some differences in layout Pamela: she needs to get more familiar with the real thing rich-c: as close as they can without violating copyrights, I'd reckon RonaldMcDonald: files are interchangeable yes, but it's the look and feel that *might* turn one off rich-c: if one just needs to learn how such things works, I reckon it would give a base for an easy, intuitive transition RonaldMcDonald: yup fer sure Judy: Meeka, what are you and Doug doing Monday night? rich-c: and the one I have is from Sun (of course) so is likely the latest and greatest Meeka: nothing that I can think of right now Judy: do you want to go to dinner with G&G K? rich-c: Doug, you might know - does XP tamper with BIOS settings during installationA? Meeka: ya, that sounds like fun. RonaldMcDonald: dinner is always fun DougS: As far as i have noticed so far up to XP, no ms operating systems actually adjust the BIOS of the computer DougS: er thru xp Meeka: yup, the no cooking is a bonus too :-P RonaldMcDonald: ya got that right kid Judy: ok, will check with G & G, I am going there to help with their houses again Monday rich-c: that's what AI thought but I wanted a more expert opinion - thanks, Doug RonaldMcDonald: Had 13 Mac users here last night for the monthly meeting RonaldMcDonald: We're all Leopard-ized Pamela: I am discovering the joys of playing music on the computer while chatting Pamela: I love a computer that can multitask rich-c: so how do you like the latest version of the OS? RonaldMcDonald: Solid RonaldMcDonald: most everyone has had similar experience - and at $70 less than Vista, it's great value rich-c: don't you end up paying a lot of money for OS upgrades when you own a Mac? RonaldMcDonald: Have only tried out 4 of the 300 "improvements", so I have 296 to go RonaldMcDonald: given past experience with various OS, I'll never get there rich-c: what is Vista selling for in your neck of the woords? RonaldMcDonald: yes.... aye, there's the rub RonaldMcDonald: The only way to get a new version without buying a new machine is to pay for it RonaldMcDonald: $179 for Home Premium rich-c: I am unhappy spending vast fortunes on Windows upgrades, but Macs appear worse from the outside RonaldMcDonald: Leopard is $129. So I guess my math is a bit out RonaldMcDonald: I swore last time I wouldn't buy the next iteration unless I was also buying a new Mac.... but, you know me Pamela: ah, what's $20 here or there rich-c: I think Home Basic is around $120 here RonaldMcDonald: home basic isn't even a contender IMHO rich-c: seems though if you buy Home Premium you can also get a free disc to revert you to XP RonaldMcDonald: anyway, having observed/played with 4/300th of the upgrade, I am satisfied RonaldMcDonald: there is some useful stuff rich-c: I guess I don't ask m8ch of my operating systems - I'd likely still be happy with CP/m BobS: but the most inportant thing for your operating system is; it needs to WORK RonaldMcDonald: there's some truth in that Rich. It used to be that an operating system was there between the hardware and the software RonaldMcDonald: Now the operating system is the software BobS: true rich-c: I don't play games, I don't hardly edit graphics, just do the internet, record keeping and small stuff RonaldMcDonald: Oh hey, speaking of games, one of our Valleylinks youngsters showed off his latest acquisiting a few days ago rich-c: it's nice that Windows plays movies and some day I may watch one RonaldMcDonald: Dual core 2.4 Gig overclocked to 3.47 Gig.... double graphics cards each with their own processor and 370 Gig of RAM RonaldMcDonald: liquid cooled RonaldMcDonald: rubber hoses all over the place RonaldMcDonald: Looked like a serious piece of work Pamela: it comes with it's own refrigeration system?? Pamela: cool Pamela: <I know, groan> RonaldMcDonald: yeah...... 8 parts water to 1 part anti-freeze RonaldMcDonald: PAMELA!!! rich-c: me, I'd likely be happier with a "$100 laptop" with hand crank for power and Ubuntu to run it Pamela: <sorry> RonaldMcDonald: <evil grin> Pamela: LOL Pamela: I've got one for you all rich-c: yes, what a pity we can't plant emoticons in this chat program RonaldMcDonald: go Pamela: was doing work at home Pamela: working on a list of states Pamela: had to replace the two digit state abbreviation with the full state name rich-c: bet the Ms threw you Pamela: so I got as far as New York by copying and pasting Pamela: then thought this is dumb, why do I not just find and replace?? Pamela: so I did, starting with Oregon Pamela: that is, find OR and replace it with OREGON UbuntuG: Installing some new software for Ubuntu Pamela: what I forgot is, other state names have OR in them
moved to room Meeting Place Meeka: lmao Pamela: one of the things I got as a result was New Yoregonk rich-c: didn't your download include the whole software supplement, Guy?
changed username to SleepingInMtl Pamela: that's what I did Meeka, for about five minutes RonaldMcDonald: New what? Pamela: I was hysterical Meeka: i bet rich-c: looks like we have two Guys on hand now SleepingInMtl: Yep... rich-c: welcome, M. Foster Pamela: Hi Guy F Pamela: any news??? SleepingInMtl: Greetings all... RonaldMcDonald: Mr F. Howthehellareya Pamela: learned my lesson, let me tell you UbuntuG: Hi Guy F Pamela: I was laughing so hard I was crying SleepingInMtl: Good, if not somewhat cold, snow is expected for tonight, at least some flurries. UbuntuG: Downloading Adobe Reader and FLash Player RonaldMcDonald: that time of year. Ground can turn white at any time
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changed username to JudyS Pamela: it has a habit of doing that I've noticed, Guy RonaldMcDonald: Guy B I mean Pamela: I finally got to look at your Halloween pics last Thursday
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RonaldMcDonald confirmed ban rich-c: Adobe REader gives me a pain - I like Foxit reader far better - more flexible Pamela: very cute, and holy cow is Sandra pregnant! SleepingInMtl: Pamela: Haha, yeah, it's hard to move around!!! Pamela: did Tamara understand what was happening?
DougS left chat session Pamela: it was good to see Sandra on her feet rich-c: and they try and dump that Abobe Photo Album on you - what a piece of obtrusive crap that it SleepingInMtl: Pamela: I don't think so... but at least she didn't get scared, a few smart adults tried to scare her and she didn't cry or anything. I thought she would. Pamela: good for her! Pamela: Me, I jump out of my skin RonaldMcDonald: had only 35 here. Various goblins and ghosties RonaldMcDonald: was forced to consume 1/3 of the treats myself RonaldMcDonald: devil made me do it Pamela: we went for a walk to see the decorations. Gone for an hour and a half, and we only scratched the surface. SleepingInMtl: Yeah, all the candies "Tamara" got for us is long gone... :) rich-c: we had maybe one visitor - we were not answering the door Pamela: Poor Ronald. (Send chocolate!) RonaldMcDonald: tee hee SleepingInMtl: Next year we plan on answering doors and giving candies... first time celebrating halloween on the other side of the fence. Answering instead of banging on doors. rich-c: so little trade it isn't worth the effort in our neighbourhood RonaldMcDonald: there were a couple of really small ghosties, who had no idea what was going on I think Pamela: we saw at least on adult out with an empty glass : ) RonaldMcDonald: and as usual, more parents than kids JudyS: we had very few trick or treating here but it was raining so couldn't blame them for not being out there RonaldMcDonald: yeah that'll kill it Judy Pamela: what surprised me was how many of the adults had costumes, either full or partial JudyS: so had two bags of candy left over Pamela: they were only accompanying SleepingInMtl: Weather was fantastic for trick or treating this year here in Montreal. BobS: and YOU needed it Pamela: Katherine told me tonite that between them, her two were out for two hours and collected enough loot to fill a regular sized recycling box! RonaldMcDonald: we had a good night for it too. Sorta felt like it was going to rain, but never did JudyS: was cold, windy and raining Pamela: it was lovely here - 16 with a bit of a breeze RonaldMcDonald: The extra hour of daylight kinda threw things off Guy B: Well folks, as soon as Adobe Reader is installed. I'm going to call it the night. Will see you all next week RonaldMcDonald: Usually it's pitch black dark around 5pm, but not this year JudyS: has been bad here ever since and they are talking of snow tomorrow SleepingInMtl: We adjusted our clocks only a few days ago, AFTER halloween. Pamela: people were sitting on their front porches rather than waiting inside rich-c: OK Guy, we'll look forward to hearing your Ubuntu adventures JudyS: night Guy RonaldMcDonald: yeah Pamela: night Guy Meeka: night Guy B: Next week, back to Windows RonaldMcDonald: night Guy Pamela: (PRIVATE) hugs to you Guy B: (PRIVATE) Me too Meeka: I am outta here too Guy B: Poof RonaldMcDonald: Good to see you here Meeka RonaldMcDonald: be well
Guy B left chat session BobS: nite tose of you who are leaving Meeka: u2 Pamela: ok Meeka, goodnight JudyS: night Meeka, will talk to you later about Monday Meeka: k :) Pamela: will be more observant next week : ) Meeka: lol, sure ya will rich-c: yes, they changed the Daylight turnaround time, by about a month in the spring and a week in the fall Pamela: in theory, anyway : )
Meeka left chat session rich-c: night, Meeka RonaldMcDonald: wonder if the move actually saved any energy costs SleepingInMtl: used to be last sunday of october, wasn't it? now it's last sunday of october + 1 week RonaldMcDonald: yes JudyS: they say no around here RonaldMcDonald: all my computing devices were thoroughly confused RonaldMcDonald: didn't download the patch SleepingInMtl: Mac OS X did the switch perfectly. rich-c: no, DST was never driven by conservation considerations, anyway RonaldMcDonald: oh? RonaldMcDonald: didn't notice that here, maybe it did happen RonaldMcDonald: was concerned more about the win boxes RonaldMcDonald: you got Leopard Guy? SleepingInMtl: winboxes have been having problems since last year when the different dates in DST were introduced, if y ou didn't have the patch, you were out of luck. RonaldMcDonald: right SleepingInMtl: Ron: No, not yet... did you get it? BobS: just turn OFF the daylight savings time box in windows and no problems, juty remember to change it yourself WHEN you notive the time is wrong RonaldMcDonald: yes, the day it came out. Local Mac Dealer had an "event" RonaldMcDonald: Was saying earlier here that I've tried 4/300ths of the improvements RonaldMcDonald: so far, I'm satisfied SleepingInMtl: Yes, we had an event too. I should get a copy, but with that and my .Mac subscription needing to be renewed, I'd have to spend close to $300 just in software and membership fees. rich-c: my XP won't download updates, so I didn't get the patch RonaldMcDonald: mine comes up in Feb RonaldMcDonald: don't know whether I'll renew or not. I don't really use it. Pay for it, but then it just sits there rich-c: Mac wants to sell you subscriptions, too? RonaldMcDonald: it's an online account Rich. I have 30 gig of storage and some website /email tools somewhere in Cupertino SleepingInMtl: Rich: Yes, it's called .Mac, very good service... incorporates a lot of features, e-mail, web hosting, picture galleries, idisk (ftp space), etc... works seamslessly with the Mac OS X different software packags. RonaldMcDonald: usually use it for showing the family movies I've taken rich-c: great - I have so much free on;line storage on gmail that the number is incomprehensible RonaldMcDonald: yeah, my iDisk shows up as just another storage medium on my Mac SleepingInMtl: Yep, same here Ron, use it for the gallery features that come with iPhoto (2007) RonaldMcDonald: I really need to make more use of it. Quite like the service, but it's not much good unless I do something with it SleepingInMtl: Exactly, I use it at 20% of it's capacity, could do more with it too. rich-c: far as I can see, the same thing can be had free from Google SleepingInMtl: Rich: Also, I have a really cool "@mac.com" e-mail address. RonaldMcDonald: and they just increased the storage quota significantly RonaldMcDonald: pretty much Rich. SleepingInMtl: Yes Rich, all of these things can be had for free from tons of otehr places, but, it's not integrated into the eoperating system, and that, is priceless to me at least. BobS: time to go to bed now, so ta ta till next week!!!!! SleepingInMtl: good night Bob! BobS: willkeep you ALL in my thoughts Pamela: night Bob rich-c: night Bob, catch you next week JudyS: it is that time again folks, so night and see you next week BobS: NITE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pamela: nite Judy rich-c: night to you too, Judy
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JudyS left chat session RonaldMcDonald: then it sits there waiting for the next such occasion RonaldMcDonald: nite Robert. Be well RonaldMcDonald: see ya next week Judy SleepingInMtl: I use it for storing pics of Tamara, that is my biggest use, I could probably have them hosted on a picture server for free, but... .Mac galleries is just so cool. rich-c: my main concern at the moment is - still - getting XP to work RonaldMcDonald: sounds like a priority Rich Pamela: did you get your e-mail back, Dad? SleepingInMtl: Rich: I decided a long time ago that Win XP was in fact a virus and not an operating system. rich-c: no, although that is a fault of Mozilla, not XP (for a change) rich-c: I am rapidly coming around to your point of view, Guy Pamela: you all may convert him yet RonaldMcDonald: One thing I've found Guy, with dot-mac is that it's really easy to put up a website for some temporary purpose.... ie my son's wedding or something where RonaldMcDonald: you want to show off some pics for just a little while rich-c: I am annoyed right now though because Firefox just announced oit had download the latest update and would install it next time I reboot. RonaldMcDonald: Can put that sort of thing up quite easily Pamela: Guy I meant to ask you, are you on Facebook? SleepingInMtl: Ron: I use the "new" gallery feature in iPhoto for that. I used to set up websites just for that, but with the new gallery feature, no need anymore. I select the pictures I want, press gallery, and tada, a new picture/video gallery. SleepingInMtl: Pam: Yeah, for sure! RonaldMcDonald: is that part of iLife 08? SleepingInMtl: Ron: iLife 07 I think. Pamela: when I looked, you didn't have a pic up so I couldn't tell if it was you RonaldMcDonald: have 08, so it's probably still there.... haven't played much with it RonaldMcDonald: will have to check that out SleepingInMtl: Pam: Yep, keep it private... but, it's me. I'm also on Dale, Neils and Jills facebook account list of of friends. RonaldMcDonald: guess I should be doing RonaldMcDonald: facebook RonaldMcDonald: never went near the plac RonaldMcDonald: e SleepingInMtl: Ron: http://www.eham.net/forums/StationBuilding/2249?page=2 Pamela: just be careful Ron, it can be addictive RonaldMcDonald: oh SleepingInMtl: Ron: Here's a gallery example to give you an idea. Very powerful and fast to setup. rich-c: from what I hear, it's de rigeur - if you're a teenager RonaldMcDonald: so I understand SleepingInMtl: Facebook is nice, but with all those stupid apps floating around, getting on my nerves these days. Pamela: I just reject those I don't want Pamela: I'm pretty picky Pamela: besides, if I don't keep it relatively clean, it takes forever to load on dialup SleepingInMtl: Pam: Same here, but seems all I get are requests for stupid facebook apps to be installed all day long. Pamela: there are some people's pages I can't load from home because they take forever Pamela: just make it clear to your friends that you don't want every app that comes along SleepingInMtl: Pam: Yes, some friends have like 50 apps installed, takes years to load. SleepingInMtl: Pamela: Not easy when you have like close to 100 friends. :) RonaldMcDonald: Ok I'm there....... RonaldMcDonald: ham radio SleepingInMtl: ham radio? where? RonaldMcDonald: eham.net RonaldMcDonald: Did I get the wrong place? Don't see you anywhere SleepingInMtl: oops Ron, gave you the wrong link, hahaha... RonaldMcDonald: wondered SleepingInMtl: http://gallery.mac.com/fostergst#100035 SleepingInMtl: there you go, the .Mac gallery. eHam was something I was doing a few days ago, surprised it kept it in memory. rich-c: looks like you two are hard at it - time for me to take off rich-c: see you-all next week SleepingInMtl: Gives you an idea of what the gallery feature is... accessible for now only in iPhoto. Not in software like apperture. Pamela: and I Pamela: night Daddy SleepingInMtl: and I soon as well. :) rich-c: night Pamela RonaldMcDonald: Nite Rich SleepingInMtl: night all! add me to your facebook pam! rich-c: niters Ron and Guy Pamela: Guy, say hi to Sandra SleepingInMtl: I will, thanks! Pamela: I'm going to rich-c: colour me gone SleepingInMtl: colored you gone!
rich-c left chat session Pamela: gnite guys, I'm outta here RonaldMcDonald: loading site SleepingInMtl: bye Pam... RonaldMcDonald: Aha! RonaldMcDonald: Cool Pamela: kerpoof
Pamela left chat session RonaldMcDonald: there's all the good folk RonaldMcDonald: Anyway Guy, I'll have to check that out. Half this stuff becomes available, and I miss it SleepingInMtl: Yes, they keep on adding to .Mac... last year .Mac wasn't that attractive, but it sure has changed since last year with all the new features. RonaldMcDonald: well I think they had to do something to keep up SleepingInMtl: Exactly, had it not been for all those added features, doubt I'd renew this year... good thing they did! ;) RonaldMcDonald: exactly SleepingInMtl: Anyways, off to sleep, have to wake up at 5:00 AM tomorrow morning! RonaldMcDonald: yep, be well sir G'nite SleepingInMtl: You too fellow Mac brother... :) RonaldMcDonald: :)
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