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changed username to Daniel B rich-c: good evening daughter Pamela on DSL!: Hi Dad Pamela on DSL!: Hi Daniel rich-c: bonsoir Daniel Daniel B: bonsoir Rich, Pam.... et bientôt Guy rich-c: so you're happy with your connection now? Pamela on DSL!: got connected on Monday and woohoo! Pamela on DSL!: by the way I was right, we needed a longer cord rich-c: so now you have it what do you plan to do with it? Daniel B: if it's a promotion "free the first months" test the stability of your connection Pamela on DSL!: surf!
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changed username to BobS Pamela on DSL!: this is the same carrier we've always had Daniel B: hello Bob! Pamela on DSL!: and may I just say, John is a genius BobS: guten tag alles!!!!!! Pamela on DSL!: Hi bob rich-c: hello Robert BobS: si, why?????? BobS: all all BobS: allo all BobS: PAM on HIGH SPEED Pamela on DSL!: I repeat, woohoo! BobS: why is that a miracle? rich-c: what did he do right? except dish teh dirt on your dad ; - ) Pamela on DSL!: actually Papa, your name never came up Pamela on DSL!: I said a genius, not a saint Bob rich-c: I know, I was kidding - but what went well? Pamela on DSL!: figured out how to get me connected when the L Pamela on DSL!: LAN didn't want to recognize the connection rich-c: that does take geneius, it takes major mastery of the black arts rich-c: just ask Doug S.
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changed username to Dr. D. Daniel B: bonsoir Dr.D Pamela on DSL!: Hi Rich Dr. D.: Hello all. rich-c: unlike certain others we copuld mentioin who again spent three hours reinstalling XP Dr. D.: Rin sends her regrets, she is not feeling well tonight. BobS: Hi doc Dr. D.: As of 6:45 PM, she was going to bed with a headache. Pamela on DSL!: again Dad? BobS: SICKLY?????? BobS: bummer dude rich-c: hello Dr. D. - back in Cleveland now? Dr. D.: Pam has DSL now? BobS: si Pamela on DSL!: yes,yes,yes Dr. D.: Yes I am Richard...I am very sorry we did not manage to come visit you and Frances. BobS: smokin' Pamela they call here rich-c: about all you missed was a major diatribe on Bill Gates and all his works Dr. D.: Well, we could have likely redirected the conversation some...it just didn't work out this trip. Dr. D.: I presume Chairman Bill has wronged you again? rich-c: I doubt it - I'm working with their centre in Beijing - they suggest somethihng, the results look good, then the computer crashes Pamela on DSL!: Rich, thanks again for the input the other night Dr. D.: Beijing! Dr. D.: Sure Pam...ask anytime. Dr. D.: Did you have a chance to look at the DVD any yet? rich-c: I am getting overtired of re-installing XP every other day, especially when the installation disc crashes half way through Pamela on DSL!: not yet, Rich Pamela on DSL!: I should put it in now : ) Dr. D.: The first day is all photos. No video until the 2nd day. rich-c: Microsoft has their support centre in Beijing Dr. D.: Maybe Rin and I can walk you through the trip sometime. Dr. D.: It was a nice vacation, I think the very first real one I have ever had... Dr. D.: China sellout :-) Pamela on DSL!: I'm not surprised rich-c: they call it offshoring - I have other words Pamela on DSL!: none of them polite, I assume : ) Dr. D.: This recent stint in Toronto was the longest we have been together ever, I think: 13 days straight. rich-c: your assumption is correct, daughter - one of the milder ones is treason Dr. D.: Immigration is hard :-S Pamela on DSL!: speaking of which, what's happening on that front? rich-c: any furtehr progress on that front, Rich - even a timeline? Dr. D.: Today I just mailed off what is called an Affidavit of Support. Pamela on DSL!: what is it? Dr. D.: It is a form to prove that I have enough $$$ to support Rin when she gets here. rich-c: as in yes you can afford to keep her? Dr. D.: Fill it out, attach a letter from CWRU verifying my employment, and photocopies of the last 3 years' income tax returns. rich-c: you will yet run them out of excuses to keep her out, but it will take a while yet Dr. D.: There is one more, but Rin needs to do most of the legwork for it: the actual Application for Immigrant Visa (Form DS-230). Daniel B: a new film on Bruce Lee... for this year. it's a film about his life, made by his brothers and sisters. Dr. D.: It requires notarized copies of all the docs we have already given them, which didn't have to be notarized copies before. rich-c: who's Bruce Lee? Daniel B: (just trying to say something different) Dr. D.: So Rin has to request a full set to send them. BobS: oh for vrying out loud BobS: WHAT THE HECK do they need anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 Dr. D.: She also has to finally get her passport changed to say Drushel instead of MacLean. BobS: should be adoabel thing Dr. D.: These are docs like birth certificate, name change, marriage certificate, etc. that just needed to be clear photocopies for previous forms. rich-c: that at least should be the least of her worries - though given Canada C&I, maybe I shouldn't be so sanguine Pamela on DSL!: so why do they have to be notarized now?? Dr. D.: And she needs to get police reports from Toronto *AND* Windsor, from the RCMP, to prove she has no criminal record. Dr. D.: Because they do. Daniel B: I converted some films from VHS to DVD.... it seems to work well, except that it takes a long time to record and then burn into dvd format. Pamela on DSL!: good lord, it would be easier to get an audience with the Pope Pamela on DSL!: or the queen rich-c: I've never recorded a film, but burning CDs and DVDs has never impressed me as being too time consuming Dr. D.: And I also have to go back through our E-mail archive and reconstruct exactly how many times and dates she has been in the US since ADAMcon 16. Dr. D.: The form wants a complete list of all times she has been into the US, the cutoff of course being when we crossed back into Dr. D.: Windsor after her birthday so we could get married in August 2006. Daniel B: Sometimes, some movies I have in VHS are showed again on TV, but it's never the same version. Sometimes it's because when I recorded the movie, it was translated here, or they cut more scenes to add more ads during the 2 hours. Dr. D.: I don't know if she was ever in Detroit much etc. while she lived in Windsor...no way to get those dates back now, I am sure. Pamela on DSL!: if she went it was probably wiht Graeme and Sabrina - they might have a record Dr. D.: But when DS-230 gets filed, then it is back in Homeland Security's court...the next contact will be to let her know 30 days before her interview and medical exam in Montreal. Pamela on DSL!: why since AC 16? Dr. D.: That is when she was in the US at the start of me knowing her. Pamela on DSL!: ah Daniel B: for me, buying a tv series at the shoping mall is risky, because it's very rare they include the french version in the package deal. Dr. D.: I know the next time after that was sometime in February 2005, after the separation. rich-c: I don't even remember what year that was, or where Pamela on DSL!: 16 was El Paso Dad Pamela on DSL!: 2004 I think Dr. D.: But after that, I have to re-read all our E-mail to find out when she came here (always by bus I am pretty sure, though sometimes I drove her back myself). rich-c: OK Dr. D.: September 2004. Daniel B: I have tons of VHS I want recycle. And burning on dvd supports uses less space. rich-c: Daniel, don't the mall stores in Quebec normally sell DVDs in French? Pamela on DSL!: um Rich, didn't you have a computer hard drive crash in there somewhere? Dr. D.: My mail has been on computers that did not crash. Pamela on DSL!: phew Dr. D.: I keep my mail on the MacOS 9 machine in my office. And that has been archived to CD and DVD several times. Dr. D.: I have never lost any E-mail archives. rich-c: oh right, you use Macs, don't you Pamela on DSL!: smart Rich : ) Dr. D.: I am not saying it is a plus of the Mac.
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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Greetings!!! Daniel B: only reccently, Quebec governement is applying a law of selling the french version whatever if the french version is made here or in another country. But for the tv series, it's another story. american series all only in english or english + spannish. rich-c: hello Guy - how windy is the Windy City? Pamela on DSL!: Hi Guy Dr. D.: Hello Guy. Happy New Year (belated) Guy B.: Not windy now. All the snow is gone from here though Pamela on DSL!: yes, all ours is gone too rich-c: but we sure got a big dose of your leftover wind today Dr. D.: We had horrific winds here last night, rattled the windows so much it woke me up in the night. Guy B.: But, we had some rare tornadoes hit up close to the IL-WI border Dr. D.: But today was calm and warm and bright sunshine all day long. Daniel B: Weather : Quebec, raining a little bit... tomorow sunny but cold, making ice, will be fun! Dr. D.: Rin says it was grey and cold in Toronto today. Guy B.: Today we are back to normal rich-c: in the afternoon we got some glimpses of sunlight, just enough to tantalyze Pamela on DSL!: While it was a pleasant change, i don't think I'd want that weather all the time - it was waaay too warm for January Dr. D.: It was a bright March day here today. rich-c: I have a doctors appointment Friday morning, by which time I suspect driving will be ... interesting Pamela on DSL!: which reminds me, i have to sew a couple of buttons back on my coat Dr. D.: Would you consider a cab, Richard? rich-c: no inhibitions on that score, Rich rich-c: but it's much easier for me to get into and out of the trucl Dr. D.: Just want you to be careful. Pamela on DSL!: its supposed to be 6 and light rain on Friday Dad - you should be fine rich-c: yes, I have to go from Dr.S's office to the building next door for an x-ray Dr. D.: BTW today is someone's birthday... Daniel B: Quebec founded in 1608... happy 400th ... (I had to say this at least once tonight). rich-c: anyone we know? Dr. D.: haha, very good, Daniel, but alas, that was not the birthday I was thinking of :-)
moved to room Meeting Place Dr. D.: Yes... Dr. D.: My daughter Christina is 21 today. Guy B.: Already!
changed username to Ron Guy B.: Hi Ron Ron: Evening good people! Daniel B: bonsoir Ron! rich-c: how about that - that's a big one - many happy returns to her Pamela on DSL!: HI ron Dr. D.: Hello Ron. rich-c: hello Ron Ron: Happy New Year to all! Dr. D.: Her suitemates at school were making a big roast beef dinner for her. Pamela on DSL!: and to you Daniel B: Happy birthday! Christina! Guy B.: Where did the time go Dr. D? Dr. D.: Some time goes very fast, Guy...you all last saw her at ADAMcon XIII I think. Pamela on DSL!: does that make her legally an adult now Rich? Dr. D.: Yes, totally legal beagle. Guy B.: Back in Cleveland rich-c: yes, we still visualize her more in the short skirts and pigtails mode BobS: no kidding..........seems like not that long ago that we were in Cleveland and she was a young teenager Dr. D.: She was a kid at ADAMcon 007 Ron: 21 - congrats to Christina Dr. D.: I will convey the many happy returns :-) Ron: Lord yes, seems like ages ago Guy B.: I remember that. She was very quiet too at the time Dr. D.: She is a bit more open now. Pamela on DSL!: Ron, please check your calendar for June 12 to 15th Ron: Will be in Italy (May 12 - June 15)) Pamela on DSL!: I thought that wasn't until September! Daniel B: I watched a video on youtube ... about the bad way children in US learn mathematics? is that true? with math books that explain more about geography and how to use a calculator than table of multiplication? Ron: Move Adamcon to Florence Dr. D.: Ha Ron: No the kids changed it. Had to do with getting time off work I think Ron: don't move it just on my account Pam rich-c: that sound you hear is Pamela tearing her hair and screaming Dr. D.: So you will be known as Ronaldo Micelli or something like that while abroad? :-) Pamela on DSL!: actually it was swearing, but . . . Ron: I know.... and others have priority Ron: sorry about that Pam.... the change just surfaced over Christmas Daniel B: I have my passport, I suppose I can go to Florence... but I can't speeak italian. BobS: same here Daniel Ron: Neither can I rich-c: in fact I'm not sure any of us can Pamela on DSL!: maybe Guy can Ron: <grin> Dr. D. Yeah, something like that....... Mitchelli the pasta boy Dr. D.: Christina can :-) She took 2 years of Italian at college. Ron: I have Italian for Dummies rich-c: besides by tehn with fuel costs no one will be able to fly anyway Guy B.: Wish I knew Italian Ron: must open it soon Dr. D.: You aren't a dummy, Ron, so it is hopeless Pamela on DSL!: remember it's a Romance language Ron Pamela on DSL!: that will give you a basis Ron: Oh Daniel B: Daniel Bienvenito? Ron: last weekend of June would be OK Pam Ron: 26-30 Pamela on DSL!: that's no good for me Ron, I have too much work then Pamela on DSL!: and I kinda have to be there rich-c: there you run into cost questions, Ron - too close on prime season Ron: right Ron: Only other space that would be a non-starter for me would be the first two weeks in August. Family comes here then
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changed username to Judy Pamela on DSL!: Hi Judy Judy: Hi, Pam Ron: Hey Judy! Judy: and Daniel, Ron, Dr D, Guy and Rich rich-c: hello Judy Dr. D.: Howdy Judy Pamela on DSL!: hang on, gotta check something Dr. D.: <Jeopardy music> Ron: Jeff just made the airline reservations the other day.... Do you know...... Guy B.: Hi Judy Ron: it's cheaper to get to Florence and Return than it is to get to Halifax and return? Ron: something wrong with that picture I tell ya rich-c: no. but I'm not surprised Dr. D.: It was cheaper to go from Toronto to El Paso with a stop in Cleveland than to go just from Toronto to Cleveland... Daniel B: Daniele Benvenuto... I suppose it's how my name sounds like for italian people. Dr. D.: That is it, Daniel. rich-c: how do they compare on Great Circle Route mileage? Ron: right. Ron: have no idea Dr. D.: Though it might be Buonvenuto Ron: be right back Dr. D.: I will have to ask Christina, she studied both Italian and French. BobS: ah.......the language of LOVE and the language of FRENCH FRIES Daniel B: I shaw a "Mikes" (pizza) ads and the guy said something like "benvenuto del Mikes". Daniel B: Nice one! Bob! Dr. D.: Then it is Benvenuto. rich-c: yes, there's a well known apartment block in Toronto called the Benvenuto Pamela on DSL!: nope, I can't swing that weekend, no way Pamela on DSL!: Rich, when will you know about your presentation date? Dr. D.: March, maybe April. You can't wait on me. Daniel B: I will have to say goodnight in a few minutes... I'm feeling sleepy. Dr. D.: I have to finish writing the paper by 18 January to even go. Dr. D.: The abstract was accepted in November. Ron: sleep well Daniel Dr. D.: Nite Daniel. rich-c: right, Daniel - these days seem to be very tiring Pamela on DSL!: gnite Daniel BobS: nite Daniel Dr. D.: But even if I ended up presenting on the 23rd (Monday), I would be able to attend at least some of the convention. rich-c: bonsoir, Daniel - a la Prochaine Daniel B: keep us informed ... did the adamcon mailing list works? I did't received messages reccently. Dr. D.: Rin would just have to travel with you and meet me there, and go back home with you, as I would have to depart for Pittsburgh. Daniel B: Bonne nuit tout le monde! Good night everyone! Dr. D.: coladam is not working Daniel B: Bonne annee encore! Happy new year again! Daniel B: *poof* *pouf* Ron: pouf? Pamela on DSL!: poofing in two languages, I love it Daniel B: @Ron, it's french version for *poof* Ron: ah Dr. D.: No poofers here, Bruce. Dr. D.: poofters either Daniel B: english : errrr, french : euhhh Dr. D.: Both are painful :-)
Daniel B left chat session Ron: Daughter-in-law is fluent in Italian. So is her mother (who is also coming with us). Intend to stick close to the -inlaws Dr. D.: Remember, pizza is not an Italian dish. Ron: apparently no rich-c: yes it is, the original is Neapolitan - but it's a bit different from the versions we see Ron: but they have it over there. Am told that the Tuesday market it's there and it's to die for Pamela on DSL!: what happened to the coladam list?? Ron: Will actually be staying about 30 min south of Florence rich-c: up in Firenza they are likely too snooty to acknowledge anything from the south Dr. D.: Dale moved to a new ISP that won't let him run a mailing list. Dr. D.: I think he said last time I was on the chat... Ron: what kind of an ISP is that? Pamela on DSL!: must have missed that BobS: well bummer, then we won't know spit Dr. D.: One who doesn't want any non-Microsoft security holes :-) rich-c: actually what seemed to be the name is a fairly well known local one Ron: there are enough Microsoft security holes to deal with Dr. D.: You could always do something on yahoogroups...our fraternity local alumni have a mailing list there. Ron: yahoo groups, or google groups
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left chat session Ron: our camera club is using the google thing Pamela on DSL!: gmail? Ron: ya rich-c: yahoo tends to be a little too nosy about personal information, and I suspect careless with it Ron: no, actually it's not mail, think it can be a chat Ron: I have iChat on my Mac Ron: which I think is AOL Pamela on DSL!: well for my purposes, I can simply create a group mailing list and send things that way rich-c: gmail does offer a chat module in the webmail Dr. D.: I don't have any gmail account, since Google may someday decide to be evil and read my mail...even though the guy who wrote gmail was an alumnus of my 2nd robot course, and I did the phone interview when he applied for a job...he was employee 25 or 26. Ron: I'm really sorry about the change in plans Pamela. Had been expecting the 'con in July, so I told Jeff to go ahead and book it Pamela on DSL!: the problem with July in Niagara Falls is it's high season and very expensive Ron: right Pamela on DSL!: also, very hot rich-c: on the otehr hand in the shoulder seasons you can pick up some really neat bargains Pamela on DSL!: and July through November are very busy months for me at work Dr. D.: The Clifton Hill tourist area is very steep and crowded...not sure some of our group would fare too well there on walkabout. Pamela on DSL!: so it was either May or June rich-c: they are very seasonal though - wouldn't recommend seeking a quote for Valentines Day Dr. D.: Where Rin and I stayed for our anniversary in August was nice and flat, though...but it was a honeymoon room, basically just a place to, well, sleep. rich-c: sure, but who's going to bother with Clinton Hill anyway? Dr. D.: Inexpensive, but not what you are looking for for a convention, methinks. Pamela on DSL!: I'm looking outside Niagara Falls proper Pamela on DSL!: St. Catharines seems like the best bet so far Dr. D.: We did because we liked the touristy museums and stuff...I had not been there since with my high school marching band in Spring 1977. Pamela on DSL!: The last time we were in the Falls was in 1992 Pamela on DSL!: I imagine it's changed somewhat since then : ) rich-c: unfortunately the attractions are around the city, up to the river mouth Dr. D.: I have been to the Falls proper several times since high school, but never up the hill to the "attractions"...the Ferris wheel was not there in 1977, for instance. Pamela on DSL!: that's in Maple Leaf Village, right? Dr. D.: The DVD has video from the Ferris wheel, Pam :-) rich-c: Frances and I spent a month around Niagara a couple of years ago, in the fall rich-c: but we spent our time visiting wineries and things Judy: we were there 39 years ago in Jan Pamela on DSL!: I'm also pondering what to do for our outing Judy: this week as a matter of fact Ron: Was last there Easter 1968 Dr. D.: When I was showing photos to my stepsister and her husband, turns out that the table we ate dinner at on our anniversary at the top of the Fallsview Hilton was one table over from where they ate after they got married. Ron: which is 40 years ago rich-c: if everyone were feeling really weslthy, dinner at Cave Springs (Restaurant on the Twenty) is nice Pamela on DSL!: really really wealthy Dad Ron: having just returned from Italy, it's likely sheckles will be in short supply Dr. D.: It was a gorgeous view...and an expensive dinner...but we were dressed up, me in tux, Rin in evening gown and pearls...gotta do that at least a few times in your life. rich-c: no, they aren't gun and mask territory, but they do offer fine dining Ron: I'm almost on the edge of saying you guys go ahead and have the con with it's best for ya and don't worry about me Dr. D.: Later we went on the horse-drawn carriage ride up the parkway, waving to the crowd like royalty, it was great. Pamela on DSL!: I'd like to do that, have never done it Dr. D.: Rin and I really want to see everyone at this con, especially since we have had to punt the last 2 due to finances...I have already saved my $500, can't speak for Rin... Ron: when it's best for ya I mean Judy: ride in the carriage or dressed up? Dr. D.: Both Pamela on DSL!: ride in the carriage Pamela on DSL!: we do dressed up whenever someone gets married Dr. D.: We get dressed up just to do it :-) Got favorable comments at the show we went to at Princess of Wales on the 28th. rich-c: since I have our gurus here, I have some Windows questions Dr. D.: Hey, I spent $300 on the tux, by God I am gonna wear it to more than weddings and funerals :-) Judy: we would like that too, we didn't come last year at all and only one day the year before Pamela on DSL!: I want you all there rich-c: on a new installation you can have four partitions, any or all bootable, right? Pamela on DSL!: Ron, is there any way you could swing the 19th to the 22nd? I know it would be tight Dr. D.: My Windows gurudom went out with Win98... Ron: me too rich-c: if I add a partition for ubuntu does that count as part of the four? even if it's FAT format? Dr. D.: All I know about Vista is that you have to reinstall part of it to get telnet and ftp in the Command window. Ron: never was a guru..... just a survivor of the school of hard knocks rich-c: I have XP and will go back to 98SE before I'll install Vista Dr. D.: Rin's new laptop had Vista, and I had to at least get telnet and ftp working so I could use the machine if needed. Dr. D.: It would be nice if Vista shipped with ssh and sftp, but... Guy B.: Going to install Ubuntu as my 3rd OS on the Compaq this weekend. As well as getting the Athlon ready for WinXP. Copying the hard drives this weekend as well Pamela on DSL!: Guy, are you planning to drive up to Niagara Falls? Guy B.: That's a good question. I wonder how long it will take me to get there if I drive? rich-c: Guy, what are you using for your boot manager? Dr. D.: It is 6 hours from Chicago to Cleveland, right? BobS: probably about 12 hours Guy rich-c: don't plan to do anything else the same day, Guy BobS: figure 8 hours past Grand Rapids Dr. D.: Then add another 5 or 6. Dr. D.: To get from Cleveland to Niagara Falls. Guy B.: I have a Trios hard drive selector on the Compaq. I have WinXP running now on an 80GB hard drive, WinME with a 60GB for the 2nd OS and Ubuntu will have a 2.1GB as the third Dr. D.: This is including time for stops; nominally it is 3 hours to Ft. Erie if you don't stop. rich-c: is it really that long, Rich? or are you thinking border delays in there? Dr. D.: I am figuring weather, border delays, and at least one rest stop (probably at Angola NY on the Thruway). Guy B.: The Dell I have Ubuntu and Win98 and using the GRUB manager to boot between the two Ron: speed limit Rich! Speed limit! Dr. D.: And driving 69 MPH. Guy B.: Yes, that is right Dr. D rich-c: those are all separate physical drives though, Guy? Guy B.: Right, they are Rich Dr. D.: Trust me, I know every pothole on I-90 and the QEW from Cleveland to Toronto. rich-c: I'm interested in putting all on partitions of a single drive Guy B.: I push a button, the BIOS configures HD and it boots up with the correct OS Dr. D.: That is how it is supposed to work, Guy. rich-c: I need to use FAT32 and it has a 32 gb limit under XP Ron: Have had trouble with that Rich. Now booting ubuntu from it's own USB external Guy B.: If you convert to NTFS, then there is no limit on the size Ron: Partitions are supposed to work, but I've sometimes had trouble Dr. D.: Win98 cannot read NTFS, I think that is Richard's problem. Guy B.: By the way, I have FAT32 on the 80GB and no problems. rich-c: well there is, Guy, but they don't make drives that big yet ;-) Guy B.: Your right Dr. D, Win98 can't use NTFS. Dr. D.: There are 500+ GB drives now, Richard. rich-c: yes I know, if you want to pay for them I think there are terabyte drives around Dr. D.: In a couple years they will be cheap. Guy B.: I have seen 1 terabyte advertised now rich-c: well I have some 8 and 16 bit programs I'm fond of so I am limited to FAT32 rich-c: or I could have one FAT32 and one NTFS of course Dr. D.: You might just want to consider an external USB drive...or even a 4 GB USB memory stick. They are about $50 now I think. Dr. D.: I think modern BIOSes support booting from external USB media. rich-c: the fun setup I expect would be one primary and one extended for each of NTFS and FAT32, then Ubuntu on the side Pamela on DSL!: Do we have any idea if Doug and Meeka plan to attend this year? Ron: mine does rich-c: I keep getting told my machine won't boot from a USB drive - I do have one Dr. D.: If it is of a certain age, it won't boot from a USB drive, that is true. I have a P3-450 like that. Judy: don't have a clue rich-c: even with the older BIOSs like mine I believe it's possible if you know the trick Judy: I would think they would if it is on the right week-end rich-c: I mean, it does support USB ports, including 2.0 Dr. D.: I think I am going to have to sign off for tonight, eyes are getting heavy, and I have to be up at 6 AM to get the girls off to school. Judy: if it is the second week-end they have a committment, I think Ron: 6am.... ewwww!! BobS: be good Rich and tell Christina CONGRATS Dr. D.: So good night to all...yes ewww Ron, but some of us are not retired yet. Pamela on DSL!: goodnite then Rich, please wish Christina a happy birthday Ron: nite Dr. D. Dr. D.: I will pass it along to her. Judy: night Dr D Dr. D.: 3s and 8s, we gone, bye-bye rich-c: you sound retired, Ron - I'm told days do have a 6 a.m., though Dr. D.: <poof>
Dr. D. left chat session Ron: retired, retreaded, retarded, something like that Pamela on DSL!: try unemployed : ) Ron: yeah, that too rich-c: or some days, all of the above? 8-) Pamela on DSL!: because from my observation, you do more work when you're not working : ) Ron: some days, yes Judy: and at a slower pace Ron: I get to choose what I will do and what I won't do rich-c: yes, it still has to be done but you set the order of priority Judy: sounds really good, Ron Ron: heard on the news a few min ago they 've had a 6.3 quake off the Oregon Coast just about an hour ago Ron: yes, life is good Ron: are we all going to drown? BobS: oh prolly just a minor inconvenience Ron Pamela on DSL!: given the weather out there recently, I'm surprised you're not already under water Ron: we have a 6000 ft mountain range in the way, but 60 million years ago, it too was under water Judy: this has been a strange winter rich-c: 6.3 off the coast should not be too significant a bump - except you've had a cpouple of them last few weeks Ron: Edmonton had a whimp of a winter - at least over Christmas Ron: yes, things are restless out there Judy: we have been up and down, this week we had a 60 degree day Pamela on DSL!: you can say that again Judy rich-c: Mt. Ranier should erupt any moment - sell your Tacoma real estate Ron: Zonker!!! Ron: The Mayan Calendar comes to an end in 2012 Ron: that's about as long as we've got Ron: Repent Ye! rich-c: no, they aren't on the Pacific plate, they are on another Pamela on DSL!: we hit 15 yesterday Ron: wierd eh? rich-c: speaking of which, Michigan has a primary fairly soon, doesn't it? BobS: a joke of a primary richard BobS: only democrat onthe ballot is hillary rich-c: why? something about the organization I don't know? BobS: the rest pulled out when the national party disavowed the primary Judy: yes, and a real joke that is most of the candidates aren't even on it Judy: a waste of a good vote that is for sure Ron: educate me. Participation in the primaries is at the discretion of the candidate??? rich-c: oh, it's one of those states that decided to jump the gun and got stepped on? BobS: seemed that way......but who knows Judy: you got it BobS: YES Ron Ron: i see Ron: a decision based on political optics no doubty Ron: doutt Judy: we have a real bright Governer, was her idea rich-c: primaries choose convention delegates, so they do tend to be important Ron: d-o-u-b-t Ron: ah.... now I see rich-c: maybe Hillary figures the party will be told (court case?) they have to honour the rsult? Judy: not the way it works Rich, the delegates can take their names off rich-c: what are the Re[ublicans doing? Judy: news is telling people to vote undecided Pamela on DSL!: why would they though? Judy: they are all on BobS: so taht the delegates could not be assigned to Hilly Pam rich-c: I gather the GOP will honour the result, then Pamela on DSL!: ah Judy: must be they don't want Hilly Judy: guess they will somewhat Ron: sounds like the sexism is already starting..... (as in "Wash my shirt") rich-c: sounds unlikely, Hillary is said to be the favourite of the party brass Pamela on DSL!: I don't understand the American election system - must do some research Judy: a real waste of money I think Judy: most people don't Pam Ron: do all States have primaries? rich-c: are the Democrats miffed at the race among states for publicity by pushing their primaries earlier and earlier? Pamela on DSL!: have pity on us poor Canucks Judy: no some have caucuses Ron: the difference is? rich-c: no Ron, some have caucuses and I think some states have nothing much Ron: difference between a primary and a caucus? rich-c: procedural, no ballots or anything in caucus Ron: ah Judy: yes I think they are and trying to stop it rich-c: in some stateeds one party has a primary and the other has nothing Judy: caucus is more of a debate until they come up with winning person Ron: ok rich-c: and delegates can be shared proportionally, it isn't winner take all
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Guy B. confirmed ban Ron: Disappearing Bob rich-c: see you fell off, Bob, or did you switch computers? Judy: he got dumped Roberto: just got dumped [chat server is clsoing.....] Pamela on DSL!: weird Roberto: must have tripped on a sidewalk crack and fell off !!!!!! ;-) Ron: nasty Judy: they are trying to drive us nuts with election junk, will go on for forever Roberto: I think I skinned my knee Ron: suppose it must be hard to take at times eh Judy? Pamela on DSL!: <gives Bob a Bandaid> Judy: no lie Judy: gets old real fast rich-c: we got some mail spam today from someone wants to be a candidate if there's an election Ron: Thank God we don't get as much government as we pay for! rich-c: we never know when the next federal election will be Ron: At the whim of the Prime Minister Pamela on DSL!: given what I've been hearing from Cynthia, sometime in the spring Roberto: just hope it is a short term thing......and doesn't hurt too long rich-c: oh, our election campaigns are limited in time, who can talk, and how much they can spend Judy: we only wish, they spend sooo much money rich-c: don't see any great American movement forelectoral reform, Judy Judy: they talk about it but nothing ever changes rich-c: all it takes is enough folks who want it and are ready to fight for it Pamela on DSL!: shock and surprise Roberto: just spend more cash and last longer Judy: not when the money rules Ron: the best government money can buy rich-c: it doesn't have to be that way - but if that's how you want it... Judy: it is the democratic way rich-c: anyway, despite our rules we still get governments that are no prizes Ron: part of it that I don't understand is the Electoral College
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Annie changed username to Guy B. rich-c: Guy's back Guy B.: Sorry folks. I knocked myself off Pamela on DSL!: are you having trouble too Guy? Pamela on DSL!: ah Roberto: he just killed hisself????????? rich-c: essentially, Ron, the Electoral College elects the President Guy B.: Anyway, time for me to go. Will see you all next week Judy: the electoral collage should be changed also rich-c: in each state, what you vote for is really a delegate to the Electoral Collega Pamela on DSL!: goodnight Guy Ron: ok Judy: night Guy Roberto: the college is a throwback to the 1800's when the results had to be pony express'd in to be counted Guy B.: Poof
Guy B. left chat session rich-c: some states split the candiates the electors are committed to proportionally to the vote, others are winner take all Ron: right rich-c: night Guy Ron: Night Guy Roberto: lot easier than counting popular vote......but NOW in the electronic age......well USE IT rich-c: back when it was introduced it had much more power and broader mandate, now it's a relic Pamela on DSL!: I think I need to find a copy of US Elections for Dummies Roberto: correct on that count Richard Ron: when you find it Pam, I'll go halvsies with ya Pamela on DSL!: done Roberto: and with that...........I am gonna bid ya'll a fond adios and farewell Pamela on DSL!: g'nite Pamela on DSL!: Bob Roberto: time to hit the sack, jack......... Ron: niters Bob. Go straight home Roberto: will do Ron rich-c: right, daughter, it's that time - night and sleep tight Roberto: <[grin> Pamela on DSL!: and Judy too I assume Judy: save yourself the grief and just admit you don't get it, no one else does either Roberto: :-) Ron: probably best Judy
Roberto left chat session Pamela on DSL!: I want to at least buy a clue Ron: I always enjoy being a CNN junkie on election night Ron: Wolf Blitzer will set it all straight Judy: yes, night all have to get some sleep need to go to my parents and work for the day Ron: Nite Judy Ron: be well
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