rich-c: hey, you got here first! BobS: hey Richard BobS: yup BobS: fast aren't I ? rich-c: what's teh occasion? BobS: just sitting here doing nothing BobS: how are the 2 of you doing? rich-c: oh, well now you get to talk rich-c: oh we are hanging in there, enjoying the spring, wondering if we will ever get to take out the trailer again BobS: know what you are feeling, I need to fix the motorhome berfore we can go anywhere BobS: had a water leak somewhere in the cooling system rich-c: well, we are simply wondering about out physical abilities to manage teh trailer BobS: started disassembly MOnday, have to keep going on it BobS: I figured that is what youj meant, but didn't want ot think it rich-c: you mean teh engine coolant is leaking out? BobS: yup
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Daniel Bienvenu: good evening! Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir rich-c: as long as it's leaking out and not vanishing inside, you're OK BobS: think it has to be a hose, BUT couldn't even see where the leak was on the way to Mississippi and back, so just kept adding water/antifreeze til we gothome rich-c: salut, Daniel
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changed username to Pamela BobS: think it is a hose spraying towards the radiator, or it might be tghe radiator BobS: Hi Daniel rich-c: hello daughter Pamela: hi BobS: NICE tutorials Daniel Bienvenu: hi Rich, Bob and Pam! BobS: Hi Pam Daniel Bienvenu: thanks Pamela: eating Pamela: so Pamela: quiet for a bit Daniel Bienvenu: @Pam : I will have the verdict next week about my vacations, but they presume it will be ok. that's why I answered the form BobS: you can type and chew at the same timne rich-c: replacement radiators are one of the less outrageous items in reapirs BobS: that is what I figure richard, either radiator hoses or radiator is not a big money deal Pamela: its holding the bowl and typing Pamela: I have problems with rich-c: our problem is teh physical work in hitching and unhitching teh trailer BobS: just have to find it and fix it, hoses need raplacing anyway, but want to know where the leak is before I start raplacing things rich-c: yes, there are definite advantages to knowing what you are doing and why 8-) Pamela: on the rv, bob? BobS: ok, Richard ........12 volt motor powerede jack on trailer BobS: si senorita BobS: not a major problem just need to find it rich-c: I have that adn know the tricks, Bob BobS: well then.............. BobS: buttons and placement of van rich-c: the spring bars can present a but of a challenge BobS: ah............ torsiion bars rich-c: and lifting teh drawbar into the hitch is not easy BobS: can see taht would be problem rich-c: it's a little heavy when you hae a broken back BobS: leave the bar IN the hitch for starters, .......... now how to do the bars BobS: hmmmmmmmm rich-c: jack everything for the sky then do the connections while it's still up BobS: can the jack motor push up far enough to let you simple hook the bars and then let the motor down to load the torsion????? rich-c: there are problems (like it's often illegal) with leaving the drawbar in BobS: tis what theya re for rich-c: it's also a liability danger, people don't see it, fall over it BobS: naw, the drawbar just whacks your leg and knees real good BobS: put a flag on it rich-c: won't stay BobS: hmmmm Pamela: sorry 'bout that - I'm back BobS: sell th trailer to pam and let her use the van to pull it Pamela: with full tummy BobS: good girl rich-c: getting the battery installed and charged is no cinch either
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changed username to Judy rich-c: hi Judy Pamela: hey Judy BobS: get lazy, leave it in, that's what I do Judy: hi, everyone rich-c: good, Pam - what did he have to say? BobS: and heard WHAT ????? Pamela: Daniel, regarding your vacation, just don't take no for an answer Pamela: after all when was the last time you had any time off? Pamela: not much but his hotel has wireless internet so you can communicate with him through his regular e-mail address rich-c: OK, that's neat then
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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Greeetings!!!! BobS: HI guyb Pamela: hi Guy! Judy: hi, Guy rich-c: Pam, for those of us taking extra days, should we book direct or through you?hello Chicago Guy Daniel Bienvenu: hi Guy Guy B.: Cubs are winning 4-0 Pamela: through the hotel Dad Pamela: go Cubs Pamela: and where is your completed form Mr. Clee??? Guy B.: Oh by the way, we are in 1st place rich-c: hello Guy BobS: "I" sent mine in.............................. Pamela: yes you did and thank you Bob and Guy rich-c: OK, you want teh formal form? I'll ask your mother to send it now wee know about the extra days BobS: we are the only attendees ????? rich-c: you c an tell my spellcheck doesn't work on this applet, can't you? BobS: gonna be a QUIET convention BobS: spell check??????? just for whimps mon Guy B.: Pam, would a personal check be Ok? rich-c: oh, occasionally I want to impress someone Pamela: no, we have confirmed: Murray and Mrs. McCullough, Ron, Bob and Judy, the Wicks, Erin and Rich, Guy B, and ourselves of course Pamela: waiting on the Fosters, Neil Pamela: oh and Jean and Melanie are coming of course Pamela: a personal cheque is fine Guy - but make it payable to Richard Clee if you're sending US dollars Guy B.: Ok, great. That I got. I'll be able to send the check off this weekend Pamela: great! rich-c: soon as she deposits it my US dollar acc ount, I give her a cheque in Canadian dollars rich-c: that way we all get our money without paying exchange fees BobS: great idea !!!!! Judy: that is a very good start for convention Pamela: Daniel is also confirmed
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changed username to Guy F. Pamela: greetings Guy rich-c: well, there is Messr. Foster now Judy: hi, Guy F BobS: Hi Gy BobS: FuyF Guy F.: And a big howdy to all of you. BobS: GuyF Guy B.: Hi Guy F Guy F.: Every time I watch a Penguins game and see their head coach, I think of you Guy B. He's your spitting image! Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir guyf Guy F.: Aloha Dan. rich-c: Speaking of which, have the Habs fired their coach yet? Guy F.: What's wrong with our coach? Daniel Bienvenu: as-tu plannifié ton congé pour le adamcon? Guy F.: Not sure about the Adamcon unfortunately. Daniel Bienvenu: ok rich-c: I've heard local opinion is not totally in his favour Guy F.: Hmm, haven't heard much about him being the reason we lost in the playoffs... Daniel Bienvenu: firing the coach will not help... it doesn't really help during the last 10 years. Pamela: Guy what can we do to make it a sure thing? Guy F.: Well, wasn't the Pittsburgh coach a Habs coach a few years back? Therrien rich-c: well, we know that among us, Daniel, but it seems that the fans in general don't Guy F.: Pamela... It's the transportation that's really the issue for me. Guy F.: Unless I can find a way to sedate 2 crying children. Muahaha. rich-c: a day down and a day back is too much? Pamela: a little whiskey in the bottles? Guy F.: Rich: Try it with 1 toddler and 1 infant. rich-c: we went everywhere with Pamela before she could weven sit up Guy F.: I drove from Niagara Falls to Montreal straight on a motorcycle a few years back, no problem at all, a bit uncomfortable, but doable.... BobS: THAT would be one wild ride Gujy rich-c: long as mommy is there they just sleep Judy: do they sleep when you drive, Guy? Guy F.: But that's part of the issue, the other one is being the reliability of my car. Guy F.: Yes, they calm down when we drive for sure... The older one is actually OK, it's the younger one. Guy F.: How are you getting down there Dan? rich-c: it's not that long a trip, only about 400 miles - is reliability an issue for that? Guy F.: Rich: Yes, last ADAMCON I left Gatineau and ended up having my alternator mount break... needless to say the battery wasn't charging anymore and had the get that fixed pronto in the middle of nowhere... rich-c: you need to remember, Guy, I did 180.000 miles on the same car, pulling a trailer all over the contient rich-c: and that was with my 1973 sedan - they are a lot more reliable now Guy F.: Rich: I did 1900 KMs NORTH with Sandra a few years ago in 2 days and it wasn't too bad... Judy: but that is a long way with 2 small children especially if the car is not reliable Guy F.: My car, I use it to go to work every day, 6 KMs round trip.... Guy F.: I trust it for that. rich-c: well, my curiosity is roused by why it might not be reliable - is it that old? 150,000 km or something? Guy F.: I've had many problems with it, ranging from a transmission failure, to alternator failures to ball joints, to many things Rich... It's just no reliable.
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changed username to Ron-Italy Guy B.: Hi Ron Pamela: Wow - hi Ron! rich-c: hey Ron! Ron-Italy: Alo Pamela: what on earth time is it, Ron? Guy B.: What time is it there? Ron-Italy: about 3:30 am Judy: hi, Ron Guy F.: Rich: Planning on getting a new car soon, but need some funds for that... Guy B.: Whoa Ron-Italy: Was asleep but woke up Pamela: so you're either up really late or really early! rich-c: Frances says good for you - for getting up and getting on Ron-Italy: Well probably won't stay for long, - or at least until I fall asleep again BobS: WAKE UP Ron Ron-Italy: zzzzzz Judy: well, good morning then BobS: we are HUMBLED that you stayed up to be with us rich-c: I'll bet teh hotel charges by teh minute for the internet, too Ron-Italy: Actually, I went to sleep about 11 pm Pamela: I was thrilled to get your e-mail today - didn't expect it Guy F.: Dan: How are you getting to the Adamcon? Ron-Italy: They've got wireless internet here....ain't technology grand! rich-c: so how are you finding life in Firenze? Judy: so, how is the trip, Ron? BobS: yes update us on your travels !!!!!! Ron-Italy: yesterday was day 1. Haven't actually been to Firenze yet Guy B.: 6-3 Cubs Ron-Italy: We're in Figline -- about 20 minutes SE rich-c: flight OK, not too many security hassles? Ron-Italy: where Francesca's Dad lives BobS: oh shucks........no travel tales yet Ron-Italy: yes, flight was routine..... except Francesca got airsick BobS: oh oh BobS: poor thing Pamela: oh dear Ron-Italy: she warned us, she's a terrible flyer Judy: that is the pits
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changed username to Dale Guy B.: HI Da Dale: Hi all. Judy: hi, Dale Pamela: hi Dale Guy B.: HI Dale rich-c: hello Dale Ron-Italy: Well no, not particularly, but she was awfully nervous BobS: hi Dale Ron-Italy: Hi Dale - from the Italian boot rich-c: what type of aircraft did you have? Ron-Italy: Airbus 340-600 BobS: one with wings.......I hope BobS: ah BIG one Ron-Italy: not bad at all...really quite comfy Dale: Good sounding trip Ron. Pamela: so what are you doing to pass the days? rich-c: well, not in the 747 class, but transoceanic capable Ron-Italy: So yesterday we just kind walked around the city here and got our bearings..nothing too ambitions Dale: Airbus 340-600 is a big beasty. Ron-Italy: yes Rich....that's true rich-c: did you fly with the People's Airline or Alitalia? Dale: I'd say 747 class for sure. Ron-Italy: Lufthansa Daniel Bienvenu: I'm back... eating ramens Ron-Italy: Via Frankfurt Daniel Bienvenu: hi Dale Dale: Not like the little airbus 340 regular version. I think it's 3 times as big actually. Ron-Italy: they really do provide exceptional service Ron-Italy: yeah.... this one seemed to be a stretch version..... rich-c: ah, OK - I know the regular 340 but didn't realize there was a stretch version that big Ron-Italy: it had a downstairs area where all the washrooms were Ron-Italy: Three seats centre aisle, and rows of two seats either side rich-c: Dale, one of my cursor cronies is in Seoul now - got there on Singapor Airlines new A380 Ron-Italy: aha Ron-Italy: now there'd be a trip Daniel Bienvenu: I forgot to contact Neil again... well the plan is to traval by bus, then travel with Neil to the convention, then have fun talking about coleco with everybody. BobS: what one has 5 center seats w/ 2 seats either side???? rich-c: he was impressed and posted a couple of interior pictures on our website BobS: we were on one of those Dale: I used to take the 340-600 on Friday night when I was returning from my monthly trips to Vancouver on Friday night Ron-Italy: Think that was the L1011???? BobS: was an airbus.......... Dale: That flight was always an hour late it seemed...so evenutally they rescheduled it to reflect that. BobS: that is what is called, go with the flow, Dale Ron-Italy: Frankfurt Airport sucks Ron-Italy: spent 6 hours there Dale: It was a guranteed connection for some asian flights that always seemed to get caught by headwinds. BobS: oops Pamela: oh? Ron-Italy: It looks like about 380 planners have had their finger in it since the 1st world war Ron-Italy: 370 of whom are now dead rich-c: inbound connections from Asia should have tailwinds most of the time Ron-Italy: conglomeration of buildings with no particular pattern, and 1/2 of them are under construction BobS: NO airport is good for that long, a couple hours to explore and geta bite, then find your plane Pamela: and no directions in English? Ron-Italy: yup exactly Pamela: figured : ) Ron-Italy: first place I've ever seen airplanes, passengers and service vehicles so close together mingling on a tarmac Dale: Framkfurt was a confusing airport. rich-c: I thought airports were primarily standard symbols anyway? Ron-Italy: just about got run over by a aircraft Pamela: ya gotta watch them Ron-Italy: I know eh Dale: I had a 45 min layover there, and it took me 55 min to get to the other terminal Pamela: German pilots - they're nuts Dale: It was impossible to catch the other flight. Ron-Italy: they are! Dale: So I had to wait 4 hours for the next one. Daniel Bienvenu: [coleco topic] we still have no label for the minigames cartridges. Ron-Italy: You get off the airplane right onto the tarmac, and there's a whole line of busses there to take you to the terminal Dale: And all the while that I'm frantically trying to get to my gate they announce flight numbers in German that have changed gates. Dale: I had no idea was they were talking about :-D Ron-Italy: right Dale... my German ain't too swift either Dale: No label. Dale: I said I could get them printed, if there was a design. Ron-Italy: :) Dale: Who were we going to get to do the design? Dale: Would Luc consider doing one? Dale: Is there someone else we talked about? rich-c: can you get them looking professional, Dale? like "real" games? Daniel Bienvenu: I was hoping someone like Sandra, Jillian, or any one from the adamcon can make one. Ron-Italy: silence?
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changed username to Ron-2 Pamela: trying to do two things at once Ron-2: Looks like I might have a problem Pamela: not terribly successfully Dale: How can half of Frankfurt still be under construction. Pamela: what happened? Ron-2: The net connection in my bedroom is not as good as the living room Dale: I was there two years ago, and that's what they were up to then too. rich-c: wireless connections have their idiosyncrasies Pamela: really really slow contractors : ) Guy F.: back BobS: OR they are working on the OTHER half of the airport now Pamela: do you mean design them Daniel? Ron-2: Yeah Dale, I'm not sure either, but that's sure the way it appeared to be Ron-2: We took one tunnel between one set of gates and another that seemed to take forever Dale: Oh well, maybe it's a good sign that they are still working on Frankfurt. Ron-2: then we were told that our gate had been changed..... back thru the tunnel again rich-c: we are familiar with that sort of scene in Toronto, too Pamela: so, you got your exercise for the day then : )
moved to room Meeting Place Ron-2: Well there were plan diagrams all over the place.....with detail in German, but I couldn't make much of it
changed username to Troy Dale: Frankfurt seems disorganized, and the gates seem to constantly change. Pamela: sorry, airport hell for me is O'Hare Ron-2: Jeff said it was the same thing for them last trip Dale: I'm not sure if it's true or not, but that is how it felt. rich-c: hello Troy! how's like in western Ontario? Ron-2: Oh yes, Pam.... O'Hare still ranks number one Guy B.: Hi Troy Dale: I flew back through Heathrow, and it is run more like a big Canadian airport. Pamela: hello Troy Troy: hello folks Ron-2: Hey Troy Judy: hi, Troy Guy B.: I know O'Hare is a hassle. I was delayed last year to Ottawa BobS: Hi Troy Pamela: and, they speak English : ) Troy: rich-c: it's not bad, not too hot and not too cold BobS: O'Hare is for sure a pain the backside rich-c: we still don't have Dr. D. aboard, but maybe Ron or Dale can answer your questions, Troy Dale: Well I don't know if I asked Jillian to make cover art. Pamela: Rich just got home today Dale: Did you ask Sandra? BobS: BUT now let's talk Atlanta airpport..........the place of almost NO return Ron-2: I've heard about Atlanta....not good things Pamela: just ask Jillian, right Dale? Daniel Bienvenu: I mean making the visual for the label, a drawing that represent the games plus using the right fonts to make the label looks great. Dale will print them. BobS: Atlanta is a place ofr all travelers to get old and disappear Ron-2: <grin> Dale: Jillian got trapped by the nightmare of Atlanta. rich-c: do you hae a company name you use for your games, Daniel? Troy: rich-c: cool thanks, I have the expansion unit and been meaning to get it up and running but I do believe that I may have a) dead tape drives or b) blank cassettes Dale: But when I fly to Atlanta it was no problem. Daniel Bienvenu: I simply use my name, it's more simple. BobS: see what I mean??? was after ADAMCON in ElPasi, right? Ron-2: I don't mind airports....but there has to be a place for me to sit down if'n I'm gonna be there a while Ron-2: Have to be able to set a spell Dale: It was on the way home from El Paso rich-c: or, you have a dead Adamnet, that can happen too, Troy BobS: OR missing rubber tires over the timing wheel to the right of the tape read head Dale: Jillian couldn't get Monday or Tuesday off work, so she flew back "Sunday night" Dale: But not really. She got trapped in Atlanta by thunderstorms or something and I nearly beat her home with Jeffrey on the later flight. Daniel Bienvenu: ok, let's make it this way... the person who want to make the design for the minigames cartridge label, please contact Dale. rich-c: I've been in the process of getting some stuff together for Trot - but it's slow Ron-2: yup thunderstorms will do it every time Troy: Rich, Bob: ok, so how would I go about eliminating those as issues? I can go pull the drives and have a look about the rubber wheels but what about the Adamnet? Pamela: it's what did us in at O'Hare Dale: Then the customs and immigration guy gave me a really hard time about bringing Jeffrey home without a notarized letter from Jillian saying it was okay. Ron-2: Pam... looking for subject material for a 'con session Dale: I was like, my wife had to go home early... Ron-2: any ideas? Pamela: don't look at me, I'm just the organizer Pamela: I'll find you the time for whatever you want to talk about Ron-2: right.... well, I'll think of something BobS: first off, you don'/t have to pull the drive, just pop the front cover and look inside. IF the timing wheel does not have a nice smooth soft tire on it, you cannot time the tape efficiently rich-c: generally if teh Adamnet is wonky it will show in interference with the graphics BobS: right Richard Daniel Bienvenu: I will leave now, so I will talk to you next week with some good news, I hope. goodnight! bye! take care! *poof* rich-c: if the picture is all messed up, and changes when the drive is put in or out, it's the Adamnet Pamela: goodnight Daniel! Ron-2: Nite Daniel rich-c: take care, Daniel Ron-2: be well BobS: nite Daniel Dale: Bye Daniel Judy: night Daniel Ron-2: or whatever the hell time it is BobS: what do you have for an ADAM setup ???????????? Guy B.: Nite Daniel rich-c: teh big problem, Troy, is that basically your troubleshooting is like a car - by parts substitution Judy: it is 10:07 here
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Guy F. left chat session rich-c: yes, my beer time Ron-2: My Mac says 7:05pm, my watch says 4:03 am Ron-2: Lord knows! Troy: Ok the Adamnet is probably fine then as I've never had any graphics problems Troy: I've pulled out the drives and looking at them closely Troy: so there is a small wheel to the right and that should have a rubber wheel? Dale: Ron, could you do a session on newsletters maybe? I would find that interesting. BobS: YES BobS: rubber tire on a steel wheel Ron-2: Hey, now there's an idea Ron-2: Yes.... thanks Dale, I never would have thought of that Ron-2: great! Pamela: Bob, what about you? Dale: There's a lot of different things you could talk about there, but I'm sure it would be interesting. Ron-2: yep, sure Ron-2: Ok...now I have a purpose in life Pamela: and lots of time to plan : ) Troy: BobS: yeah I have no rubber tire Ron-2: yes Troy: on either drive rich-c: don't forget the Mighty Mitchell Award! Troy: should the wheel have free motion or be stiff? Ron-2: It will be something from Italy I think Troy: as one is free moving and the other quite stuck Pamela: yes!! Ron-2: the Mighty Mitchell Award I mean Pamela: a nice pair of Ferragamos perhaps? : ) BobS: therefore you cannot get either data drive to read ANY tape, becasue it can't find out where it is Dale: I really ran out of time last year for compression. Dale: I maybe should do more on that this year. Ron-2: Ferragamos, or Ferrari's Pamela: we have lots of time to fill Dale - go for it Pamela: either / or, Ron : ) BobS: wheel should spin freely, probably won't becasue the rubber turned to goo and flwed down into the wheel well rich-c: yes, one wheel drives an internal strobe that tells teh drive where it is Dale: And I'd like to do something more on story telling in games. BobS: flowed Troy: BobS,rich-c: Ah ok, so I'll have to clean the one out and get new tires for both! Thanks, so where would I acquire these tires? Dale: And maybe something on sound effects on the Adam, although I'm sure that Daniel is better qualified to do that than me. BobS: got some of those here too Troy.......and the don't work too well BobS: I don't know where to get any Troy rich-c: hate to say it, Troy, but if you ever find out plase let me know 8-( Ron-2: right Pam Ron-2: will have to look about Dale: I haven't asked Jillian if there's a topic she wants to present on. BobS: cleaning the wheel well out of the goo is a major job, easier to buy new drives Ron-2: People, I hate to love you and leave you, but I"m beginning to fade rich-c: understandable Ron, marvellous to have you aboard Pamela: I would love to have her present something as well Dale, we need more female presenters Dale: Is it 4am there Ron? rich-c: hope you can make it next week Troy: how much are new drives going for? BobS: well we are HAPPY you graced us with your sleepy presence Ronal Judy: go back to sleep, Ron, night, night Pamela: goodnight Ron, go back to sleep Troy: I'm not terribly worries about the work, I rather enjoy taking this stuff apart Judy: and have a good and save trip Pamela: we are thrilled to see you Ron-2: Will try to make it in here as much as I can over the next few eeeks Ron-2: and my net connection is getting flakier Troy: sorry that should have been worried instead worries Pamela: anything is flaky at 4:00 am : ) Ron-2: yes, particularly me rich-c: Troy, this session is about ansers, don't worry Pamela: I did NOT say that : ) BobS: I have them for $25 shipped to you in the states .... Ron-2: So I'll bid you a fond g'nite / g'morning or whatever it is Pamela: ciao! Dale: Bye Ron. Ron-2: love ya's all Pamela: you too BobS: the BIG problem is finding a replacement tire to fit the wheel so it turns, Troy Ron-2: poooof!!
Ron-2 left chat session rich-c: yes, $25 is the going price I think; it is swhat I have been charging BobS: would like to find some for my collection and fix the ones I have Dale: Pamela, the usual advice is to spread me out over all three days. Dale: I don't mind doing just something short on Saturday if we are off for most of the day doing other things. BobS: I think biggest problem is melting in a hot environment .... or cleaning with solvent cleaners rich-c: yes, but she should also get Neil wound up on his history session, and/or Murray Troy: Hmmm does anyone have a picture of this rubber tire? Troy: I have many rubber gaskets and o rings from other projects Pamela: guess I should figure out just how many hours I have to fill, shouldn't I rich-c: I would imagine thickness would be critical since it's a timing device Dale: Sorry I stopped using a tape drive a while ago. Pamela: note to self: GET ORGANIZED! Dale: I'm also working on a project to interface PS2 controllers to the Adam. Dale: I'm not sure I'm ready to present that yet or not. BobS: iy is as wide as the wheel, and approx 1/8" thick. BobS: will go take a look once Dale: There are 5 different tape drive designs that Coleco used. Dale: So it depends on which exact revision of tape drive you ended up with. rich-c: yes, and a couple of them are eral pains to adjust Dale: They are all mostly the same, but over time they changed the design a little here and there. rich-c: I suspect that teh timing wheel design stayed pretty well teh same, Dale rich-c: it least I have never noticed any variation Judy: Bob is sticking to the 1/8" thick and it spins freely Dale: Well I've only ever had 4 tape drives and used maybe just two of them. Judy: Bob has a lot of them Judy: and used them for forever rich-c: I've had lots, inclusing at least one on which teh wheel melted while in use and for no discernible reason rich-c: did you and Doug ever manage to fix any of that lot I sent you, Bob? Pamela: Dale how many hours do you think you'll need altogether? BobS: 2 basic drive problems are the U6 chip burning out, which results in the tape giiong left and just banging; and the rubber wheel disintegration causing loss of speed control and therefore brain function Dale: Pamela, somewhere between 3 and 6. But tell me a few weeks ahead so I can try to be as ready as possible. Pamela: you let me know what you need - I'll find the time for you Dale: I'm not that picky. Hands on sessions take an hour or two to do properly though. Pamela: so start planning : ) BobS: maybe one or two Richard.......most needed the wheels or we tried U6 chips and they still didn't work, so we gave up BobS: you take a shot at fixing, and if it dont' work, you throw in the towel rich-c: damn tires BobS: exactly Dale: Bob are you coming to AdamCon? BobS: YES, will come in early Fri am BobS: planning on it anyway Dale: What are you presenting on then? rich-c: the question is, will Meeka and Doug make it? BobS: still trying ot talk Doug & Meeka into coming Judy: don't know yet BobS: nothing so far......have no ideas or much time to prepare either Troy: Yeah I'll probably rip them apart and see what I can do, otherwise I guess I'll grab some replacements rich-c: how about getting Guy B to finally explain about his AdamEm untilities? Judy: they want to but may not be able to Dale: I'd still love to see Doug's flash card harddisk. Dale: I don't think he posted pictures. BobS: will have it along Dale BobS: I got one in an ADAM also Dale: Wonderful. rich-c: good - Ron bought one but can't make it work Judy: we have been working on them to come BobS: Troy......is a good experience to tear it apart and see wht it is doing........be careful of the goo though Pamela: same question applies to them as to the Fosters - what can we do to make it happen? BobS: will try to remember to take along all the disks to program the thing rich-c: do you know the actual number of teh U6 chip, Bob? the electronics shop order number? Judy: not sure Pamela: let me know Judy BobS: not offhand........think we bought some from either Radio Shack or ADAM's House......didn't match, but worked on a few drives BobS: trouble was.......sometimes the damage goes past the U6 chip into some other chip on the board, and who knows which one rich-c: I'm sure I have it around somewhere, but unrearthing it is another matter BobS: leaving the tape in the drive all the time while ADAM is on, is the reason I heard for U6 chip failure Judy: Meeka is not working and her brother is coming and they have plans the next week-end so time will tell rich-c: yes, and also sometimes it seems the thread on the adjusting screw strips or something Judy: but they do want to see everyone has been a few years since the last one they attended BobS: face it Richard.......Coleco NEVER planned on us using the ADAM 25 years later rich-c: yes, and relatively speaking Niagara is convenient for them rich-c: hell, if you read teh manual, we were only supposed to use it for a few hours every day BobS: and only for a limited lifetime of 54 yearws or less Judy: if we could get Daniel, her brother involved that would be great Pamela: if they come will you all come together? Judy: he is another computer person rich-c: the DOSboxers all think I'm nuts becasue I turn off a computer when I finish with it - they don't know where the habit came from Pamela: well bring him along! BobS: that is FIVE years or less Judy: that is what I am working on rich-c: well isn't that what computers are designed for now? or is it only three on laptops? BobS: I only use vastly outdated computers and only upgrade when absolutely necessary BobS: financial thing BobS: if I spend all my cash, I won't be able to rtetire some day rich-c: if it would work on the internet, the Adam would still be adequate for me Judy: and we wouldn't have made it thru the last two years the way we did Dale: I used to use the Adam on the Internet, low those many years ago. BobS: me too and it was FAST......course it was text only Dale: I remember I was advocating it at AdamCon 007. BobS: it worked with Freenet rich-c: yes, that was quite an impressive demo, I remember - what were you using, 1200 baud? Dale: I was BobS: still got some 1200 baud modems.....need any????? rich-c: I think I have one - the Sydmodem Dale: I don't think I've ever tried dialup with my current laptop. And maybe not even with the one before that. BobS: hecxk, got some AdAM 300 bauds, some 2400 external bauds.....14.4's and on and on Pamela: was using dialup until January Pamela: DSL is much better Troy: cool well thanks for all the initial advice folks, I'll certainly be back for more advice and discussion Pamela: so rich-c: well the Adam display can barely keep up with text at 1200 so anything more just means lost message Pamela: Troy, what are you doing the weekend of June 19 - 22nd? Troy: is there an email I can contact you at Bob for purchasing replacement drives? I might go ahead anyways and just try and repair my existing ones rich-c: right Troy, glad you chose to drop by BobS: goto ........ http://ann.hollowdreams.com and ckick on the link to ADAM NEWS NETWORK online catalog BobS: and all the other ADAM links too rich-c: remember Troy is in Ontario, Bob, so you'll have exchange problems and Customs charges BobS: oh crap.........or I could take to convention and ship form there BobS: OR he could buy yours, if you have any rich-c: yes, I have a couple around BobS: see????? sell him yours !!!!! and if you wnat to replace them I can bring some to you rich-c: even made some progress on rebuilding my check Adam last couple of weeks Pamela: heavens, you've been busy Dad BobS: good for him Pam rich-c: replacements I don't want, Bob, I want to get rid of what I have BobS: what's a "check" ADAM ??????? BobS: ok just sell them to Troy then rich-c: the Adam I use for checking stuff I'm going to sell BobS: ok got it rich-c: between my back and teh lifting rquired, I can only spend a very limited time any day BobS: TROY, buy them from Richard ........ and check olut his other stuff for sale,......it is on my website as the ADAM Svcs link to click on rich-c: and of course I have other obligastions - like today Frances wanted to buy our tomato plants BobS: gonna freeze yet befor June Richard Judy: hopefully not Pamela: you really think so Bob? rich-c: swell, common wisdom here is you're OK after May 24th, but teh forecast till them is friendly BobS: whoh knows rich-c: NOAA and Environment Canada can make good guesses ;-) BobS: heck tghey can't forecast spit here for accuracy Troy: sorry folks got pulled away from the computer for a few minutes rich-c: they do pretty well for Buffalo Troy: Pamela: ummm I don't know right now is that the Adamcon? Judy: was supposed to clear at noon today, was still raining at supper time Pamela: yes : ) BobS: back up and read the posts about the data drives Troy .................................. Pamela: we can offer you a nice day rate if you're interested : ) rich-c: oh, he'd havwe to come down from Mount Forest, Pam, out past London' Troy: reading... :) Pamela: Dad, did you remember my chutney this morning? rich-c: oh damn, no I didn't, even had the note on my table too Pamela: put the note on the shopping list : ) Judy: don't you hate when that happens rich-c: but Shiela phoned so we ended up going out after lunch all in a rush Pamela: it's okay, just wondered if it was cheaper at No Frills Pamela: Loblaws is $4.99 rich-c: yes, and this is two Wednesdays in a row, Judy - I'm mortified Pamela: no worries, Papa - not a rush, just wondered rich-c: but you got the message about the Butterfly Conservatory? Pamela: I did and thank you BobS: so whata the heck is chutney anyway Judy: it is that senior moments that get you every time Pamela: it's basically a savoury jam, Bob Pamela: which sounds weird I know Troy: Ok all caught up and reading the product catalog BobS: tastes like, looks like, consits of BobS: good Troy Pamela: mango jam but spicy with chunks of fruit and sometimes things like sweet peppers rich-c: some variants of relish are similar BobS: ok that about describes it BobS: what do you do with it? Pamela: think corn relish with an East Indian twist, made from mango BobS: spread liek ajam" Pamela: and spicy Troy: man I can see myself spending some money here :) Dale: I eat it with Indian food. rich-c: depends on what you want, Troy - most of the stuff is pretty inexpensive Pamela: we have it with tortiere - Presidents Choice makes a good one Troy: well it's also the quantity that comes into play Troy: :) BobS: a toutiere ?????? rich-c: why, what might you want a lot of? BobS: cracker, biscuit, cookie ??????? Dale: It is a french meat pie Pamela: meat pie Troy: plus the cost of getting a disc drive is up there but I'm assuming well worth the investment Guy B.: Well folks, will be taking Annie out soon. See you all next week Pamela: gnite Guy, I'll let you know as soon as your cheque arrives BobS: sounds like a danish type of pastie rich-c: disc drives are very hard to come by BobS: nite GuyB Judy: night Guy Troy: I'd probably want to get copies of all the games and interesting software Dale: with ground beef and flakey pastry. Usually 6-8" but quite flat. maybe just 3/4" thick. Pamela: what Dale said : ) rich-c: OK Guy, take care - think about an Adamcon presentation BobS: liek a mickey D's BURGER !!!!!!! Guy B.: Cubs Win. Poof
Guy B. left chat session Pamela: no sir, much better BobS: squaSHED Pamela: shall have to educate you on this Pamela: is nummy BobS: tyiem to go here also gang.......will see ya next week Pamela: gnite Bob Judy: time to turn in so night all Pamela: and Judy Dale: A basic part of my monthly diet for sure. BobS: nice to meet you Troy Troy: good evening to you BobS, thanks for your guidance
Judy left chat session Troy: meet you as well BobS: AND hope we helped you rather than hurt you............ Pamela: Troy, if you want convention info, send me an e-mail at adamcon20news@gmail.com rich-c: OK Slopsemas, see you next week BobS: next week gang !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!poof
BobS left chat session Troy: Hahahah I'm going to be fine but my wallet may have another opinion :) Pamela: Dale, President's Choice makes a couple of different tortieres - the non-microwaveable one is the better of the two but is harder to find Dale: We probably have it 3 or 4 times a month. Usually with ketchup. rich-c: don't worry Troy, it's unlikely to go away - what's available shoulld stay so for a while yet Pamela: try it with salad and sausage and mild mango chutney from Pataks' Dale: I've been eating Mortimer's tortiere of late. rich-c: Dale, do you know of anyone selling a disc driv e at the moment? Dale: Not me. Pamela: Mortimers is not bad but we prefer PC - just personal taste. Mortimers does have an amazing crust Dale: One or two seem to be sold once a year that I hear about. Not really more than that though. Pamela: this all stems from a restaurant called Millers Country Fare on Dundas rich-c: yes, but they changed owners and went downhill, didn't they? Pamela: they made an incredible tortiere, and that was the meal in total - tortiere, sausage and salad Pamela: they changed owners and it's now an upscale expensive bistro with nothing in common with the original beyond the name Pamela: so now we recreate the meal at home Pamela: now I just have to find the recipe for Pioneer bread rich-c: just for the record, Troy, Adamcom will be second half of June in rich-c: St. Catharines rich-c: everyone you met on here tonight will be there Troy: yeah I was just reading about that as well Dale: We;d love to have you come out if you have the time. Dale: It's something you have to try at least once. :-) Pamela: you would be very welcome rich-c: and Pamela tells me she has been working to work out day rates that are fair to both parties Pamela: yes - details available by e-mail Troy: Well I'll drop an email and get the info, I know my wife may have to be in orlando, FL for part of June and if that's the case I'm on pet-sitting duty for that time rich-c: Pam has an uncle and cousin in Orlando Troy: so I'll have to see how it all falls into place, she does a lot of travelling for business and it can be rather sudden at times Pamela: the hotel may be pet friendly - I can check that too (can't remember off the top of my head) Troy: I don't think I could handle the drive with a dog and two cats from Ottawa :) Pamela: if you want to come, even for a day Troy, we'll find a way to make it work rich-c: thought you were down in Mount Forest, Troy? Troy: me? no I'm in Ottawa rich-c: sorry - I must have you mixed upp with someone else then Pamela: lovely city - I want to go back Pamela: we were there last year for AC19 Pamela: anyway gentlemen, it's time I went to bed rich-c: yes, it is getting to that hour -goodnight and sleep tight Pamela: Dale, I shall be in touch shortly to pick your brain about a couple of things Pamela: Dad, I'll call tomorrow or Friday Pamela: and Troy, I hope I'll hear from you rich-c: OK, expect we'll be in both evenings - Corinne is coming for dinner Sunday Pamela: oh that's good news Pamela: okay, I'm outta here Pamela: goodnight Daddy Pamela: kerpoof!
Pamela left chat session rich-c: yes, she and her daughter are passing through, coming to get teh trans-Canada Troy: good night and good to meet you Pamela rich-c: well, that was fast rich-c: anyhow Troy, any otehr questions or shalll we call it a night? Troy: man the rubber must have melted in this thing, it's a mess inside rich-c: unusual, teh ones that have melted on me have stayed on the rim, just stuck to the tape and ruined it Troy: hmm I guess a solvent was used at some point to "clean" it and it just broke down the rubber rich-c: no, it's something very weird and happens spontaneously - I have had it happen to a couple whre I know the history Dale: There was a bad batch that wasn't hardened properly and they overheat and become gooey after a while. Troy: craziness rich-c: it appears to be an instantaneous and spontaneous change in teh chemical composiiton - really baffling Dale: I think it affected a month's worth of production or something. rich-c: I wonder for how many months the drives were produxced? Couldn't have been many Dale: I think they were produced for 16 or so months. Dale: I'm sure that the actual number was mentioned at AdamCon 2 by Phil K. Dale: I can't think of his last name at the moment. rich-c: sounds credible - there didn't appear to be many loose ones left when Adam stopped production rich-c: Polish name - Kosowsky or something - last heard of living near Albany IIRC Dale: There were supposed to be 500,000 Adams made for sale and <100,000 in parts in the pipeline, if I recall correctly. rich-c: my hunch would be that a lot of the remaining stock was assembled and sold too on the clearouts rich-c: very rarely saw a boxed second tape drive around - almost all have been rfe Troy: it certainly is quite the unit to take apart rich-c: it's even more of something to put back together rich-c: it doesn't help that they run the wire where they obscure the screws rich-c: I recommend lots and lots of pictures as you disassemble it rich-c: anyway, gentlemen, it's time for me to go rich-c: so I shall bid you both goodnight Troy: :) Troy: yeah I should be on my way as well rich-c: and hope you can make it again next week Troy: thanks again and I'm sure we'll be in touch soon with a laundry list of items :) rich-c: colour me gone
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