Meeka: hello Guy F.: Hello all... Guy F.: Hope you guys have recorved from the adamcon. Guy F.: *recovered Meeka: mostly lol
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changed username to BobS Meeka: hello Judy: Hi, All BobS: hello all Judy: me too BobS: YO GUY Judy: slept thru the alarm this morning, dad got up and I didn't even hear him bring me coffee BobS: well looks like it is us Meeka: lol
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changed username to Jean BobS: got some new toys today Meeka: hello Jean Judy: Hi, Jean Guy F.: new toys? Meeka: cool Meeka: what you get BobS: AND mom got a new inverter for that craqy blinking screen Meeka: lol Judy: how was your flight home BobS: 23 in 1 card reader Jean: Hi everyone. We got home yesterday. almost rested up. Meeka: broke down and put it in huh BobS: yup
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changed username to Dr. D. Meeka: hello Judy: hi, Doug Dr. D.: Hi all. Jean: what kind of toy are you talking about? BobS: 'AND a zip drive and disks which will become removeable ADAM hard drive disks BobS: hi Jean Judy: hi, Dr D Jean: hi bob Meeka: cool BobS: glad you remembered !!!!!!
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Daniel Bienvenu: Jean? Daniel Bienvenu: Meeka Daniel Bienvenu: GuyF Dr. D.: I remembered, just got home from an outing with the girls. Meeka: hello Daniel Bienvenu: Judy Daniel Bienvenu: Doug Jean: appreciated all of you at convention Daniel Bienvenu: Bob Judy: hi, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: Dr.D.
moved to room Meeting Place Dr. D.: I doubt Rin will be here tonight though, she is still out. BobS: in the flesh Daniel....don't she look GREAT ?????
changed username to rich-c Dr. D.: Nice you could join us again, Hean. Dr. D.: Jean Dr. D.: stupid fingers not working after supper Judy: we were glad you could make it and enjoyed meeting Melanie BobS: bit them off ?????? rich-c: Hey Jean - hi! DougS: hi everyone. sorry been afk working on the adam. rich-c: and of course all the rest of you BobS: you don't have Melanie working too hard on the first day back, have you ? Dr. D.: Just too sleepy after good supper Meeka: yes we did Daniel Bienvenu: I'm sorry... Jean is generaly a male name in french... I didn't make the connection Jean: yes, she's right here--says hi all DougS: rich, do you happen to remember the base ide address for the adam hd? Judy: we have been sleepy also all the time Meeka: hi melanie BobS: HI Melanie Dr. D.: Oh wow...let me think Doug. Jean: hi meeka! BobS: Doug is gonna tax your memory Dr D Judy: say hi back rich-c: then pass on all our best to Melanie, please! BobS: Daniel......good flight home to Quebec City ????? Daniel Bienvenu: great flight BobS: super ! Judy: hi, Rich didn't see you come on Meeka: I have been working on putting up con pictures tonight Daniel Bienvenu: welll, great flights, because I had to transfer to a second plane at Montreal BobS: now you are hooked on flying and want to get in the air soon again, eh?
Guy F. left chat session BobS: still at the hotel Richard ???? rich-c: Ron got you on the right airplane, did he? ;-) Jean: mom is working with all the pictures from the con. lots of good memories Meeka: cool rich-c: yes, we leave Friday for home, Bob BobS: you managed to not lose any pictures then Daniel Bienvenu: I think it's the best solution to travel a long distance Meeka: I will have to trade cd's with here. Dale birned off everone elses for me on cd, but somehow neither of us had Jean's set Jean: think so rich-c: went over to Lockport, NY ysterday then came back and took Ron to dinner BobS: Melanie, did you get to the Niagara Falls on Monday AND see the motorcycle show? Judy: and get up on the Skylon okay?
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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Greetings!!!! Judy: that is too bad Meeka: hwllo BobS: hi guy Judy: hi, Guy Daniel Bienvenu: guy BobS: but did you get to the top? Jean: we still had a good time. I did manage to hit one more vineyard for wine--go figure rich-c: Rich, I gather the early departure and long trip to Pittsburgh were well worth every bit of hassle BobS: :-) Jean: no, didn't get to the top. guess we'll do it next time BobS: but Dr D, DID YOU WIN ???? Judy: we are going to start worrying about youand all that wine rich-c: hello guy Dr. D.: It was a hassle Richard. Dr. D.: YES I DID BOB Daniel Bienvenu: hehe Dr. D.: But you aren't on coladam so you didn't get my message Meeka: as long as she doesnt try to drink it all at once :-) BobS: COOL Judy: congradulations then rich-c: I am on the Dr. D.: thanks Dr. D.: Doug I am still looking through some files...Rin is on the phone now rich-c: Adam list and saw your message - that's what prompted teh remark Judy: say hi to Erin Dr. D.: Erin says hi BobS: HI ERIN Meeka: hi erin Daniel Bienvenu: 'rin BobS: she'll hear that for sure Jean: hi erin! Dr. D.: Hello to everyone, she says BobS: Doug, are getting the ADAM chat messages?????? rich-c: hi right back from us DougS: ok Dr. D. just can't member if i did know it before. can't seem to find much about the ide controller on the web (go figure). Can't do the z80 compile without the idebase address. Dr. D.: I have a portlist somewhere too Meeka: I dont know about Doug, but I havent been getting the adam mail for a while now DougS: i think i am getting the typings in the chat dad. DougS: but i haven't been getting the adam list. Dr. D.: Doug, I can tell you where to find the info... Dr. D.: in the files I gave you... Dr. D.: look in the EOS8 folder DougS: haha you mean the ide base number i am looking for is 0? Dr. D.: yes in the file IDEOVR.ASM Dr. D.: the equates for the IDE are there BobS: ok Meeka, then none of us in Grand Rapids area are getting the ADAM messages DougS: i been wracking my head trying to remember what base address the controller is on and it is 0 :) Meeka: lol, poor doug, the answer right under his nose Jean: mom befriended the SWAirlines attendant and whipped up a crocheted bag for her before we got off the plane. she rewarded her with a huge bag of peanuts and pretzels. snacks for next year? BobS: LUV IT Meeka: cool rich-c: neat BobS: ya aren't allergic to peanuts, are you? Meeka: we had one of those on the red-eye after ac15 Meeka: went home with bags of them Jean: nope Judy: good for her and now you can have all the peanuts and pretzels Judy: they are kind of nice to have for a snack Meeka: ya, just the right size Jean: rich-c sorry we weren't able to connect with you and Frances for dinner rich-c: we are very sorry too - we were trying to get back for 6 p.m. but misjudged it just a bit Jean: mom has me slaving away on her list of things to accomplish. got to get back to work. just wanted to say hi. BobS: she doesn't even give you the nights off????? rich-c: luckily we are at least able to get Ron yesterday Meeka: lol, moms are good at using slave labor LOL Jean: no, she's pretty much around the clock kind of gal--haha Judy: don't work to hard, glad to talk for a little while with you, Melanie BobS: bummer
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changed username to Pamela Daniel Bienvenu: I'm still here. watching tv at the same time. Judy: hi, Pam rich-c: stay tuned melanie, I'm sure the internet works from Albaquerque too Meeka: hi pam rich-c: ! ;-) rich-c: hi daughter BobS: PAMELA extrodinair BobS: you get the jist
Hi everyone, sorry I'm late
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as always I get sidetracked Guy B.: HI Pam
changed username to Guy F. take 2 Daniel Bienvenu: e Guy B.: HI Guy F Judy: yes, we would love to hear from you from where ever you are Guy F. take 2: re-hello BobS: back again
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changed username to Pamela Guy F. take 2: BobS? BobS: when you leave for down under? Daniel Bienvenu: a big hand of applause to pam. it was a great adamcon Guy F. take 2: Leaving end of August. BobS: soon yes? BobS: oh, lots of time rich-c: welcome GuyF - hope we don't lose you when you go down to the underside ofthe world Guy F. take 2: Oh yeah, tons of it... gives me time to pay for the ticket. BobS: si senor Daniel BobS: "time payment plan" Pamela: merci Daniel, but I didn't do it alone
Jean left chat session BobS: got the hotel all squared away; no problem????? Pamela: Daddy, opened my birthday card - please tell Mom "pretty dragonflies!" Pamela: no problem BobS: B day ????????? BobS: when??????? rich-c: will pass that on Pamela: My biggest problem is I didn't get to say goodbye to you folks! Meeka: this week i believe BobS: we coulda had them sing HAPPY BDAY to ya Pamela: so consider yourselves thoroughly hugged BobS: oik BobS: parting is such sweet sorrow.......boo hoo BobS: just say...till we meet agin Judy: oh, that is right is Pam's birthday this week, happy birthday Pamela: thanks Judy Pamela: we have a lot of June babies here! Daniel Bienvenu: Some of Dale's pictures I don't understand... otherwise, very good pictures overall. Pamela: 'tis tomorrow rich-c: your mother has been informed - she's glad you like them Pamela: thanks Daddy Pamela: I loved the chatty e-mail too Pamela: can't wait to share it with Pamela: Russell Pamela: there's that darned enter key again Meeka: lol Pamela: where did Jean go? She was just here Judy: it does get in the way at times doesn't it? Pamela: it does : ) Pamela: right under my pinky Meeka: not sure, she must have been booted cuz she didnt say bye Pamela: was Melanie on too? Meeka: yup Pamela: shoot, I hate getting delayed Judy: maybe when Melanie left that was it Meeka: could be BobS: Jean does have Melanie working hard, even evenings she said Pamela: Rich, any further word on your paper? Any other prizes? BobS: YA Pamela: I know he got one Pamela: was wondering if there was a "best in show" type as well Pamela: Dad, Ron flew out today? rich-c: yes, he was off and away I think befoe dawn Pamela: oh my Pamela: let me just say, ick rich-c: his flight out left around 6.30 a.m. or some equally ungodly hour Meeka: yucky BobS: tha's like a red eye Judy: ohhhh Pamela: I'm with you Meeka rich-c: yes, he had to drive to the airport, return the rental car, and till be an hour ealy forthe flight Pamela: did he bother to go to bed? Meeka: lol, not much point in that I would think rich-c: personally, I can't think of anyplace I'd want to go that badly BobS: so say leave at like 3:30am Pamela: that's what I'm thinking - you can always sleep on the plane Pamela: right now, he probably wants to go home : ) I'm pretty sure he's tired of travelling by now Meeka: yup rich-c: yes and he picks p three hours on the time diffeence Pamela: yes the joys of flying west rich-c: dont know how long a layover he had at Edmonton BobS: he is GOOD at layovers though Pamela: he's had lots of practice : ) Daniel Bienvenu: I can't wait to be at the next adamcon. each time I learn something new about coleco adam. Pamela: like Dad with the computer gods, Ron seems to have offended the airline gods somehow Judy: keep thinking that way, Daniel rich-c: and both sets are nasty even without being offended Pamela: LOL Dad BobS: he didn't do that AGAIN, did he Pam ??????? Pamela: not that I know of, but he keeps spending inordinate amounts of time in airports! BobS: Richard Clee ????? Pamela: no, Ron Daniel Bienvenu: I'm really sorru to not be a real coleco adam user... I'm a colecovision maniac, but I don't know anything about coleco adam, except what you teach me each time. BobS: Daniel, it is an addicting littl computer system rich-c: wel, I suspect you can master most of it, Daniel Pamela: heck Daniel, I'm still yelling for help every time I use the thing BobS: we got you hooked like a fish, now we are gonna reel you in !!! rich-c: it is very much a generic 8-b it computer of its time Meeka: lol, dougs getting excited over there....i think he making headway one whatever it is he doing now that dr d gave him some help Pamela: ah, and that fishhook looks so cute hanging out the side of his mouth BobS: :-) Pamela: what is Doug doing, Meeka? Judy: sounds painful rich-c: I'd think for you, Daniel, having the Adam for comparison with others would be useful BobS: the FUN of monkeying around with anything is to make it work correctly and do things it was never designed to do Meeka: dont quite know for sure, he got home the other day and within hours had his adam out in the main room to work on something related to the number of hard drives it could access at the same time Pamela: oh! I didn't know more than one at a time was possible! Meeka: it currently isnt rich-c: one of the Walter twins had it up to four, I think, and felt he could double that Pamela: I note the "currently " Meeka: but he got a bunch of code from dr d this weekend and is trying to hack his way around the limitation i believe Pamela: cool Judy: our trip to the Liz C store wasn't good but found a shorts set at Sam's by LC Meeka: lol Meeka: that figures BobS: Micro Innovations Mark Gordor had 2 hard drives in the Powermate unit of which I have some rich-c: my memory is that it can be done, Meeka BobS: he found the way around Pamela: I thought that was "he who shall not be named" Pamela: or was that someone else? BobS: no. that is Teryy.....what's his name ?????? BobS: Terry Pamela: gotcha rich-c: Fowlball, or something ;-) Pamela: LOL Dad BobS: thas the one Pamela: which store Judy? In GR? BobS: Sams Club Judy: outlet on the way home BobS: Liz Claiborne Pamela: the LC store in GR is quite good IIRC rich-c: Frances found a JoAnn's in Amherst, NY yesterday but didn't buy anything Judy: no Liz Claiborne in GR in the outlet this side of Howlell Pamela: brb, gotta get a fan going in here Pamela: there was one Pamela: or wait, was that an Elizabeth? Pamela: I know it was there, I bought my black shorts there Pamela: darned south west wind, the only side we don't have a window on Judy: can't think of what store that is rich-c: gather it's warm in Toronto, too Pamela: 'twas in a mall Judy Judy: is is so warm their today, Pam? Meeka: lol, we gots three of them things so how knows pam rich-c: we used the a/c in the van for the first time this year to any exent today Pamela: it's currently 23, winds SW at 19 km/h Judy: Ann Taylor? Pamela: no was a Liz Claiborne store Meeka: lane bryant rich-c: looks like youget good overnight cooling,then Daniel Bienvenu: I hope you like colecovision games because I didn't finish all my projects yet. Pamela: hope so, I shut off the A/C when inside and outside equalized BobS: we do Daniel Meeka: games are always good rich-c: we hae the room a/c on for the first time too but will turn it off at bedtime Judy: Penney's sell Liz Claiborne but can't think of the store in the mall Pamela: the new games have to come back next year Daniel - I didn't get a chance to try any of them Meeka: the other requireent to that statement whould be you have to come to Pam so you can try them Judy: we had to close the house due to the rain, but opened the front door a little while ago because it got still in here Pamela: but of course : ) Meeka: we have our air on Pamela: which mall has the Lane Bryant Judy? rich-c: having a bit of a downpour, Judy?
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changed username to james Meeka: rivertown has one i think Judy: CenterPoint Mall Pamela: hi James! Guy F. take 2: hi james james: good morning Guy B.: Hi James. rich-c: good morning james Pamela: that's where I found the LC store too Meeka: hi james BobS: Hi James james: how is everyone? Pamela: is the CJ Banks there as well? Pamela: missing you James Meeka: yup Pamela: that's the one rich-c: well, we all got through the Adamcon OK Judy: CJ Banks is in CenterPoint but not Liz C james: have been busy, as always Pamela: must have closed it after we were there in '02 : ( rich-c: yes; do the Japanese have summer vacaions, james? Judy: has Old Navy, also james: elementary school kids do Pamela: we missed you over the weekend James - a great time was had by all james: there are a few national holidays rich-c: but not secondary? Daniel Bienvenu: bonjour james james: bonjour Judy: hi, james james: they have summer "vacation" whereby they still go to school and study and do all their club activities Pamela: BTW Jillian tells me Dale made his plane and is safely in Zurich Meeka: thats good Pamela: we chased a monster thunder storm cell home on Monday Pamela: they must have had to drive through it Judy: we went thru it a couple of times Pamela: got off the highway to find hail on the city streets Meeka: we did too for a few minutes was hard to see the road Pamela: that was a bit disconcerting Judy: rained so hard at one point you couldn't see much james: i see from the main page you just had 'con 20 rich-c: I gather the weather in Toronto has been rather rough Pamela: it was on Monday afternoon Dad Meeka: yup, and we are all still recovering from it too Pamela: I misjudged how much gas I had left and had to stop on the way home to get some rich-c: long as it didnt upset my tape setting from Sunday, all is fine Pamela: since we were there, stopped for lunch as well Pamela: I think that's what saved us from having to drive through it Pamela: you missed a great convention James Judy: we didn't have to get gas until we got back in the States BobS: was crazy weather on the way home....sunny,then storms off to the north and in front, lightning, then rains, then sun james: yeah, it's a little hard for me to get over there rich-c: yes, we will have to get home early Friday as the weekend traffic will be monstrous BobS: like a time warp Pamela: we were getting quite the light show, that's for sure Pamela: I know James rich-c: we were out Tuesday vsiting a winery among other things when teh storm broke rich-c: being trapped in a winery is not the worst fate available Pamela: you poor thing : ) Pamela: I'd have been fine on the gas Judy if we hadn't made that run to the States on Pamela: Wednesda Pamela: y rich-c: well actually it meant we were just a bit late to catch Jean nd Melanie for dinner, and that hurt rich-c: you should have bought gas in Buffalo - it was about $4.26/gal in Lockport Pamela: at that point I wasn't even down a 1/4 tank Guy F. take 2: $4,26/gal L what a bargain! Daniel Bienvenu: did Jillian sing sometimes? she got a powered voice during the banquet, so I suspect she can sing opera easily. Pamela: $4.63/gallon in Buffalo james: i'll say rich-c: if the price is right, top up anyway! Pamela: what are gas prices like for you James? james: we're at $6.10 / gallon after i do all the requisite conversions Guy F. take 2: price is right at 53,9 cents / L like it was 10 years ago. :) Guy F. take 2: yeah, but Japanese cars are more fuel efficient. Guy B.: I managed to find a station in Battle Creek on the way home for $3.99 james: 171 yen / litre for the adventurous Pamela: so about a $1.60 a litre james: yup Guy F. take 2: Close to what we pay for our gas here in Montreal. Pamela: that's incredible Guy rich-c: when are you buying a Prius, james? james: i've had one for 3 years now Guy B.: I know. It's $4.23 here in Chicago Meeka: its about 4.07around here Guy F. take 2: Looking into an economical 4 door hatchback myself... Guy B.: You like it James Pamela: aren't you already driving an accord, Guy F? james: yes, but the mileage claims were .. somewhat exaggerated shall we say Guy B.: Here in the US. There's a 8 month waiting list for those Guy F. take 2: Pamela: Not considered "economical" Pamela: ah Guy F. take 2: Automatic, V6, 3.0L... Pamela: so, just like mine then Guy F. take 2: A bit better, it's not American. :) Pamela: I just don't drive enough to fuss too much Pamela: except the last couple of weeks rich-c: meanwhile, I have a 350 CID V-8 to feed... Guy F. take 2: You drivin' a van or something Rich? james: i can't imagine what some people here who drive suvs are paying at the pump Pamela: let me just say "pbbbbtttt" Guy F. take 2: SUVs are a dying breed. rich-c: yes Guy B.: Yep, that's happening here now Guy F. take 2: same as pickup trucks james: at $1.60-$1.70 per litre they must be easily doing $100 fillups Guy F. take 2: I did my first $80+ fillup a few weeks ago.... Pamela: ouch james: hell, even on the prius i can do a 7000 yen fillup Guy F. take 2: I'm so happy I don't rely on my car to go to work, otherwise, I'd be broke, fast. Pamela: my worst has been $67.00 james: big cars are stupid Guy F. take 2: big cars are stupid, indeed. rich-c: yes, I hit a pump in NY that stopped t $75 and another in Toronto that shut off at $100 Pamela: they are if you commute at all james: big tanks that hold more gas and thus increase the weight of the car Meeka: we had alost $80.00 fill-up on the way home this weekend Guy F. take 2: big cars are good for long trips. Guy B.: I've hit $50 with mine so far. But, I managed to keep that under that amount Guy F. take 2: what car do you have guy B> james: the fact we're still burning hydrocarbons in this day and age is pathetic Guy B.: And the trains are getting crowded here in Chicago Pamela: strangely enough, no one seems to have changed their habits much around here Guy F. take 2: Well, double the gas prices and solutions will pop up real fast. Meeka: but we cant complain much we got an average 29-30 miles to the gallonon our trip james: i typically get 22 km / L james: 53mpg Pamela: train ridership appears to have remained the same Pamela: at least judging by the number of people on the platforms james: far from the advertised 33 km / L Guy F. take 2: nice... our metro station in Montreal is packed every morning.... not enough trains. Pamela: oh I stopped taking the subway Guy rich-c: yes but highway speeds re down - you can cruise at 108 and be in tune with traffic now james: maybe we'll start designing cities around people instead of cars Guy F. take 2: I take it everyday, best way to get to downtown from where I live. Pamela: I take the GO train instead Guy F. take 2: I feel bad for people who are stuck living 60-75 KMs away from work and who commute to work.... must cost them a bundle. Pamela: sheesh Dad, i was doing 115 on the way home and getting passed by semis Daniel Bienvenu: I would like to travel by train one time. rich-c: odd - my 50th percentile speed to Ottawa lst year was 117 kph, but tis year seems about 108 Guy F. take 2: Train is nice... Montreal - NY is beautiful! Guy B.: Amtrak here in the USA has seen record numbers of people taking the train across the country. Pamela: I weighed the cost of gas to get to and from the subway station, and the time I spent in traffic, plus the 35 minutes on the subway itself, vs. the six blocks I drive to the GO station and 17 minutes to downtown BobS: and? james: maybe now cities will invest more in public transit infrastructure Pamela: no contest Guy F. take 2: I used to take my car to the subway station, but now, instead, I bike there.... it's cheaper and faster. Guy B.: They should Guy F. take 2: What's a GO station Guy F. take 2: ? Meeka: brb, need a drink Pamela: I normally fill the Escape on Saturday morning before heading to the trailer - 170 km round trip including into town for groceries rich-c: and overall better for your health Guy F. take 2: brb, need a fuel-efficient car Pamela: then don't fill again until we go back three weeks later Pamela: I use so little gas in the three weeks it far offsets the slightly higher cost of a GO Ticket rich-c: GO - Government of Ontario rail operation, mostly commuter services on rnted tracks Guy F. take 2: good for the health yes, but it's also ironic that with my bike I can park righj next to the entrance of the subway, with my car, I have to walk literally for 10 minutes from where I park to access the subway.... so it just makes no sense. Daniel Bienvenu: it's raining outside... with thunder... I may be disconnected at any time Guy F. take 2: Your Internet is affected by thunder? rich-c: long as you're smart enough to figure it out, Guy james: must be on dialup james: ah Guy F. take 2: There's still people on dialup in this day and age??? james: maybe he means he'll lose power Guy F. take 2: maybe he's just scared of thunder and will go run under his bed and won't be able to type from that particular location? Pamela: heck even we bit the bullet and got DSL Daniel Bienvenu: a computer needs electricity. if I lost electricity during a storm, I will be disconnected. rich-c: you don't have a UPS? Guy F. take 2: no UPS? What's wrong with you Guy F. take 2: ? Guy F. take 2: Actually, I don't have one either.... Guy F. take 2: Must be a Quebecer thing. Meeka: our servers have them, but not our normal computers rich-c: if you have a laptop to switch to, it rarely mtters Pamela: think it's more of a money thing, Guy Pamela: we don't have one either Pamela: but then if we take a hit, everything in the building goes down and we up a creek anyway Guy F. take 2: I'd need a UPS for the cable modem and router. rich-c: no for those what you need is a surge protector Guy F. take 2: a surge protector will power my cable modem and router? COOL Pamela: my solution is to unplug the laptop and run on battery Meeka: a surge protector will not power things, just conditions the power rich-c: but a Guy pointed out, your modem and router still need their own power sources Guy F. take 2: Actually, it protects your electronic equipement from electrical spikes (surges)... Guy F. take 2: but can't power. Some UPS have surge protectors built-in. Pamela: I shudder to think what would happen if our building took a direct hit rich-c: yes, we have a whole-house surge protector, right in the main box Pamela: our 1960's wiring would be fried Guy F. take 2: hey, nothign wrong with 1960s wiring!!! That's what I have and it seems pretty reliable to me. Pamela: it would be, if the freak who wired the place knew what he was doing Guy F. take 2: haha rich-c: hell, we have 1953 wiring and aren't fussed Guy F. take 2: I'm dealing with the previous owner's bad wiring habits in the house we bought, ripping out tons of wires and re-doing it... the guy had no concept of electricity. Pamela: but when half the apartment is on one 15 amp circuit, and there's just one plug on another, ya gotta wonder what buddy was smoking when he wired the place Guy F. take 2: oh boy... resetting the breaker often, aren't you? Pamela: not anymore, but we got a lot of practice at first : ) Guy F. take 2: I can imagine running a stove, A/C and heating up water in the morning for coffee.... Guy F. take 2: with someone drying their hair in the bathroom.... Pamela: a/c in the bedroom is plugged into the single plug circuit in the LR Pamela: a/c in the LR is plugged into the stove, which is a 20 amp dedicated circuit Pamela: don't run the hair dryer and the heater at the same time Guy F. take 2: OK, good, so it's not too bad. Guy F. take 2: heateR? you have electrical heating? Pamela: or the microwave and the toaster oven or the kettle Pamela: spaghetti everywhere Guy F. take 2: move!!! Pamela: it's a wonder we haven't killed ourselves Pamela: small space heater for the really cold nights Guy F. take 2: yeah, we have central heating, BUT I always keep a small space heater for emergencies. Pamela: believe me, we're keeping an eye out Pamela: however, the number of really small apartments out there is mind boggling Guy F. take 2: how much is rent these days in your area? For a 2 bedroom appt, it's like $750 or so here in Mtl. Guy F. take 2: yes, that's the problem in Mtl, lots of small appartements, not enough large ones. Pamela: we are in a 2 BR for $995/mo including all utilities Guy F. take 2: Large ones that accomodate families are in the $1000-$1100 range. Pamela: except phone and cable Guy F. take 2: if heating is included, that's not too bad. Pamela: the thing is we have an uncommonly large apartment Daniel Bienvenu: we have a cat here... afraid of thunder... he is actually hiding under my desk, beside my feet and the powerbar. Pamela: probably at least 1000 square feet Guy F. take 2: make sure not to step on him by accident. Guy F. take 2: Wow,1000 square feet is huge! probaby close to the size of our house. Pamela: someday I'm going to measure accurately Guy F. take 2: our house is 40 X 30 feet.... BobS: like 1200 swuare feet rich-c: yes, with the odd shape you will have to do it in segments Pamela: because of where we are in the building we were lucky enough to get the largest apartment Guy F. take 2: well, that's the exterior... but livable space, I dunno. Judy: just ask Bob, Bob the Builder, ya know rich-c: right - nominall we have a 40 x 25 house, wich is true for the exterior dimensions Pamela: so of course, everything we've looked at seems tiny in comparison Guy F. take 2: maybe it's time to buy a house!!! Pamela: believe me if we could afford to, we would Pamela: however I don't have a spare $400,000 at the moment rich-c: but in erms of net space less walls and stuff, we're far hort of our nominal 1000 s. ft. Guy F. take 2: you don't have to pay $400,000 in one shot, you know? :) Pamela: the bonus of the house is you have the basement Dad rich-c: yes, and the garage and porch Guy F. take 2: with the basement it's times 2... like us. makes it more house than we need with the basement. Pamela: heck, 5% is $20,000, and we don't have that either BobS: BUT, you DO have to pay for it all over time WITH interest paymens on top; of the price Pamela: we looked into a mortgage and the best we could do right now would be about $165,000 Pamela: not even enough to get a condo Guy F. take 2: yup, I've been paying my mortgage for 6 months now and am sick and tired of it... can't wait to finish paying it off. Guy F. take 2: you couldn't even get a run down house in the suburbs of Montreal with that amount, sadly. rich-c: even if you push, it will take a while, Guy - but it's well worth it Pamela: we've been looking at places in Mimico, down by Russell's office Pamela: but they're all tiny Guy F. take 2: I'm 19 yrs away from finishing off to pay my house.... CAN'T WAIT. Guy F. take 2: tiny as in how small? Meeka: we closer than that...only another 2-3 years Pamela: what we need is someone who's willing to rent us a small bungalow for below market value rich-c: remember Guy you can make extra payments on your mortgae to pay it off faster Pamela: tiny as in 700 square feet + - Guy F. take 2: 2-3 yrs? awesome, congrats, what are you going to do with all that extra money every month? Pamela: or smaller Meeka: who knows, wont start worring about that till it happens though Pamela: I'm hoping 6/49 will come through tonite Guy F. take 2: Rich: My payments are large enough, I cant afford to make extra payments. rich-c: we ended up paying ours off in five nd a half years Guy F. take 2: Rich: Youll rarely hear of anyone doing that these days. rich-c: the psychological boost of owning a house free and clear is unbelievable Guy F. take 2: I can only imagine... Guy F. take 2: It took me 1.5 years of intense savings and 65 hrs weeks to save up to pay a 20% downpayment.... rich-c: you didn't hear of it being done then, but Frances can be rmarkable blody-minded... Guy F. take 2: Ive heard of a few people in the 80s who paid off their homes in 5 years or so.... but thats with a lot of overtime hours. Pamela: I often wonder what happened to the money manager gene - it seems to have skipped my generation rich-c: and having an over 50% down payment didn't hurt Dr. D.: sorry I was away folks Meeka: wb BobS: and you should be !!!!!! ;-) Pamela: hey Rich Daniel Bienvenu: re - bonsoir BobS: got life straightened out? Guy F. take 2: Ahh, there you go... if people waited till they had 50% of the value of the house, no one would buy nowadays. Dr. D.: was on the phone with Rin Dr. D.: trying Bob BobS: good mon Guy F. take 2: those teenagers, always talking on the phone... :) Pamela: Rich, any further prizes won? rich-c: well we were never with the crowd, Guy - that's why we can afford $100 gas fillups now Dr. D.: no further prizes, just plaque and $150 that I know about Pamela: oh and by the way, I've got tons of picture hangers you can have if you're patient : ) Dr. D.: haha GuyF Dr. D.: picture hangers? ah for plaque Guy F. take 2: plaque, isnt it better to go to a dentist for that Dr. D.: I still have all the ones from the things in my old office, I never rehung them in the new. Pamela: we can fix that : ) Dr. D.: Ask the folks at ADAMcon 20, they heard the talk, if they were grinding their teeth in boredom, maybe that got rid of plaque Daniel Bienvenu: australia... it's far from here. if you can go that far, I suppose you can go at the next adamcon, no? Pamela: no boredom here! Dr. D.: Rin said she zoned out after a few slides :-( Guy F. take 2: Well, yes and no Dan.... it all depends. Dr. D.: BTW Doug, did that file have the IDE HD info you needed? Pamela: I was trying to listen over Jeffrey Meeka: i got rid on mine before i can rich :-P Guy B.: Well folks, got to take one dog out for a short walk. Will see you all next week Meeka: came** Meeka: night guy Dr. D.: By Guy Pamela: g'nite Guy Guy F. take 2: goodnight guyb Dr. D.: So how was the Last ADAMite Standing contest? rich-c: night, GuyB Pamela: Bob won Dr. D.: Seeing as I was in Pittsburgh and missed it. Meeka: good DougS: yep. busy reassembling the eos hd boot disk Dr. D. Meeka: bob won Daniel Bienvenu: did frances recover her logo programs from floppydisks? Guy B.: Poof
Guy B. left chat session Dr. D.: Glad to hear Doug. Meeka: dale was the first eliminated Dr. D.: no... Dr. D.: Dale? Pamela: yup Dr. D.: I figured he'd win. Daniel Bienvenu: in fact, yes... he was the first eliminated BobS: why???? Pamela: last three standing were Dad, Bob and Neil Dr. D.: Holy $DEITY Guy F. take 2: Rich: Saving is all fine and dandy, but one cannot forget to live, otherwise why are we working for if not to make our lives more comfortable? Dr. D.: Were there enough questions? Pamela: and I'm proud to say that two of my questions knocked people out rich-c: more comfortable in parts, or all the way? Pamela: more than Meeka: yes there were Dr. D.: That's good...I gave Ron 20 just in case. Meeka: we were just all making silly mistakes Dr. D.: So they didn't get to my #20 then I bet. Guy F. take 2: well ladies and gents, I'm off to bed, the witching hour has struck for me... up in 5:30 hours... Daniel Bienvenu: I had some chances with games... but I had not enough adamcon experiences to answer the questions Pamela: I was impressed at how many I knew the answers to BobS: PAM, shame on you !!!!! Meeka: night guy Judy: have to go is that time of the night, night all Pamela: why? Guy F. take 2: good night all. Dr. D congrats on the award. Pamela: gnite Guy rich-c: what bugs me is that when I downloaded the emulator a few wseeks ago I noticed it was way old - but forgot the exact year Dr. D.: Thanks GuyF BobS: Pam you knocked people OUT of the competitiion Daniel Bienvenu: I'm leaving too.
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Judy left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: good night Dr. D.: Bye Daniel Pamela: yeah, ain't it great? rich-c: night, GuyF BobS: leaving along with Judy.......see ya's next week Pamela: goodnight Bob and Judy BobS: YES Pam Dr. D.: Okay Bob & Judy, bye Meeka: guy got bummped with one of mine Meeka: night BobS: be good, and have FUN Dr. D.: So Pamela is an ADAM killer app?
BobS left chat session rich-c: night Bob and Judy Pamela: guess so : ) Dr. D.: I tried to make balanced questions, not all about tech DougS: mr easter egg you were rich-c: yes, we never did get to furnazi Dr. D.: I only asked about the "Hi Cathy" one. Pamela: the Jillian's pregnancy one was mine Meeka: ya, and it knocked doug out when he got it wrong :-P Dr. D.: I thought about an ADAMcalc question, but decided it was too insular. Pamela: as was the one about Zonker's brother rich-c: yes, I was surprised that one was missed Meeka: poor judy, just couldnt subtract right Pamela: I was pleased just to be able to come up with five legit questions Dr. D.: Pamela may be flattered to know that there is an ADAM program with a hidden "Pam's face" Pamela: not mine, I'm assuming : ) rich-c: I must admit I didn't know Zonker had a brother - and I was at Seattle! Dr. D.: Not yours...can't really tell whose it is. Dr. D.: It is a tiny bitmap. Pamela: is that in Chip's Challenge by any chance? Dr. D.: No it's in ADAM CP/M 2.2, in unused space in the boot block if memory serves. Pamela: now that's well hidden rich-c: some day you must give a seminr on Easter eggs in Adam, Rich Dr. D.: Yes, you have to use a hex editor to dump the block and then see the string and then decode the bitmap. Dr. D.: I suppose I could... Pamela: someone remind him of that in about a year's time . . . Dr. D.: ADAMlink I has an unimplemented dialing directory full of names and numbers of defunct BBSes Meeka: well, its about that time for me too Dr. D.: SmartFiler has a deleted test database on it filled with garbage nonsense text, the same sentence over and over Meeka: see ya next week Dr. D.: From memory anyway Pamela: gnite Meeka Dr. D.: Bye Meeka
Meeka left chat session rich-c: I am hearing impatient noises in the background - time us old folks got our shuteye Pamela: and probably past time for me to be in bed as well Pamela: ask Mom to send me another e-mail Dad rich-c: so james, Doug, Daniel, Rich, Pam - goodnight all Dr. D.: okay, good night Pamela: goodnight Daddy Dr. D.: I ought to go too, sent Rin to bed 15 minutes ago rich-c: ok Pam Dr. D.: glad everyone got back okay Daniel Bienvenu: goodnight... I'm already in my bad and sleeping. ;-) DougS: night all Daniel Bienvenu: bed Daniel Bienvenu: anyway Pamela: gnite Doug rich-c: colour me gone
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