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Chat for Thu 2008-08-14 03:00:01

rich-c: test
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu
Daniel Bienvenu: hello rich
Daniel Bienvenu: did I miss something?
rich-c: salut, Daniel - comment va le Carnival?
changed username to Guy B+D
Daniel Bienvenu: festival ended sunday
Daniel Bienvenu: it was sunny
Guy B+D: Our festival started this week...
Daniel Bienvenu: hi GuyB
rich-c: nope, I think Bob abd Judy are still away, Pam's not here yet, Ron has - otehr interests
Guy B+D: No, Guy B
Guy B+D: B
Guy B+D: B+D
Guy B+D: B+D=F
rich-c: bonsoir, Guy
Daniel Bienvenu: 2+4=6 ?
Guy B+D: Hello Rich. M0
Guy B+D: Hi to you too Dan.
rich-c: I think we're being cryptic tonight - mopre clues needed
Guy B+D: yes, it's a cryptic kinda night for me.
Guy B+D: Dan, you there?
Daniel Bienvenu: I am here
rich-c: I assume it's more than a crossword that's preoccupying you
Guy B+D: not into crosswords, they are a waste of time for me personally. I prefere wasting my time surfing the web, now that's a great way to waste your time!!!
rich-c: you are so right; I am most expert at it!
Guy B+D: haha, me too.
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rich-c: so how are the eatehr patterns doing down your way now? nay drying trend?
Guy B+D: sorry gents, my wife is calling me, she rented a movie and it's movie night. Just to let you guys know that I might not be around for the next 2 months, so if you dont see me, I haven't disappeared, just on the other side of the world.
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rich-c: allo, Luc
Guy B+D: beubye guys!
Daniel Bienvenu: bye guyb
LucMiron: Hi guys. :)
LucMiron: Guy!
rich-c: OK Guy, bon voyage adn I hope a few of those down under joints have DSL connections!
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Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir luc
LucMiron: Gah!! I missed him by just a few seconds!
LucMiron: Hi Daniel.
rich-c: looks like Guy could not hang around - at least he said hello/ goodbye
Daniel Bienvenu: Dale will be online later
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Dale: Hey hey!
rich-c: speaking of whom - hi, Dale
LucMiron: Ha! Hi Dale.
Dale: How's it going Luc.
Dale: I see you've returned to visit us here.
Daniel Bienvenu: to luc : i hope the files I sent to you will help you learning coleco programming in c.
Dale: Luc you said before in your blog that you were interested in doing more ColecoVision programming.
LucMiron: @Daniel: I still haven't looked at the document you sent me today. Is it a lot different from the online version?
Dale: Are you currently working on a project?
Dale: Have you been doing it in assembly so far?
LucMiron: @Dale: If you want to have a look at what I'm working on, check out my latest blog entry on :)
Daniel Bienvenu: to dale : i did find my variation of your game santa's gift run. I did find that I used a different charset and the codes I used for the double buffering effect.
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LucMiron: Hi Pam.
Pamela: Hi everyone
rich-c: hi daughter
Pamela: I'll be in and out for a little bit while I finish dinner
rich-c: running late tonight, are you?
Pamela: lost track of time
Dale: Aug 10th blog entry. Fresh off the presses.
Pamela: I hate it when that happens
rich-c: it isn't that hard to do, unfortunately
Daniel Bienvenu: to Luc: I don't know which version the files are, but I'm very happy to find them back.
Dale: Well the version I gave you Daniel has a bunch of playability things added.
Dale: Although the game still is missing that "fun factor" that we were hoping to put in for the collection.
Dale: Hi Pam.
Pamela: hey Dale
Dale: Good news! Your AdamCon 18 tshirt just came in.
Pamela: oh good : )
Dale: Email me where you want it sent, and I'll send it out tomorrow.
Pamela: give me a minute, gotta go flip my potatoes
Daniel Bienvenu: Santa's gift run need obstacles and/or floating bonus to add the fun factor.
Pamela: there that's better
Pamela: did I just lose my connection?
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LucMiron: Yes, you're gone.
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rich-c: nope, you're still with us
LucMiron: Messing with yer head, missy. ;P
Pamela: pulled on my cable and disconnected : (
Dale: I was wondering if puting a secret key combination that does a checksum inside the cartridge would solve the testing phase issues.
Pamela: Dale do you still have the con e-mails? I put the address in there a few times
Dale: I'll take a look Pam. I should still have them no problem.
Daniel Bienvenu: testing issue?
Pamela: why thank you, kind sir
LucMiron: @Dale: Well, anyhow, I would like to iterate my offer to help you with the graphics in Dracula.
Dale: I'm reading Luc's blog where he had to test a bunch of carts to make sure they burned properly.
Dale: Luc, I do for sure want help. I think Daniel is going to help me this month.
Dale: If not then I know you are more than capable of doing the work well.
LucMiron: @Dale: If you want to see what I can do with CV graphics, I can send you some mockup samples...
Daniel Bienvenu: I never had problem burning roms. I had bad eeproms but they was quickly rejected by the game system itself.
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BobS: hello all
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changed username to Judy
Judy: Hi, everyone
LucMiron: Anyhow, I received an e-mail from Eduardo today. He said he had good news for me, but that he didn't have time to tell me what it was because he had to go out to lunch with his sister. Haven't heard from him since. What a tease!
rich-c: hey Bob, you're back - how was the vacation?
rich-c: hi Judy
Judy: hi, it was great
BobS: vacation was good, but had to come home to 13.5 hr days of work
BobS: and that sucks
LucMiron: @BobS: Ouch...
rich-c: I believe every word of it, Bob
BobS: you betcha
rich-c: the only good thing is the paycheck at the end
Judy: had a wonderful camp site right on the lake
LucMiron: It's like your boss wanted to make you pay for taking a vacation. :P
BobS: was working those hours before vacation too
BobS: and another week
rich-c: do you have a boat, and use it?
Judy: the kids could swim right there and we didn't have to leave our chairs
BobS: used the boat, yes
BobS: but ya know, we aren't as young as we used to be.......................
Dale: I was camping, and exploring Quebec on my vacation.
rich-c: carry it on top of teh rv?
Pamela: hi there happy campers
Dale: I was on the Internet occassionally, but never on Wednesday nights.
Judy: no, pull behind
rich-c: I'm afraid we are going to have to quit camping, or at least give up teh trailer
Judy: bummer
BobS: well you can sell the trailer, and rtent one if you decide to go comaping
BobS: farn dingers
BobS: too tired
rich-c: yes, but there comes a time when the old body won't do some things any more
Dale: At the Mont Sainte Anne they had two "ready to camp" sites, with tailers set up and ready to go.
Dale: Kind of a neat idea I thought.
Judy: I like my own, is all my own stuff
rich-c: it will be a real wrench to have to sell our trailer after all these years
Judy: yes, it will be
BobS: then keep it on the chance you get to gao again
rich-c: we won't get much for it, but it is small and easy to tow which is a help these days
rich-c: if I can't hitch it up, Bob, I can't go anywhere
Judy: there are some huge rigs out there
Dale: So Luc what language is your upcoming game written in? Your blog doesn't answer that question.
LucMiron: It's in C language.
LucMiron: I'm not that interested in learning Z80 assembly.
rich-c: we will look and see if there's a used unit based on the Dodge Sprinter diesel
Dale: Okay.
Dale: Dracula is in C, but mistmaid is in assembler.
BobS: that's an idea Richard
Dale: So I do some of each.
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Pamela: hi Guy
rich-c: well we can't justify the cost of s new one - I'll be 78 next week
Dale: Hi Guy.
Guy B.: Greetings from Cubs Country.
rich-c: greetings, Guy
Judy: hi, Guy]
LucMiron: @Dale: That's nice. :) I actually have some projects I'd like to do which will probably require some assembly-coded routines for optimized performance.
LucMiron: Hi Guy.
rich-c: we'll be rel;ieved of our confusing Guys for a while - Guy F is off to Australia
LucMiron: I'm hoping a friend of mine, Scott Huggins, will code those assembly routines for me.
Pamela: oh, have they left?
rich-c: he was on earlier saying goodbye, Pam
LucMiron: Yeah, and I missed hmi by a few seconds! Doh!
rich-c: leaving before next chat, is all we know for sure
Pamela: well heck I hate it when I'm late
rich-c: I think this is 9 or 10 a.m. in Australia, actually
LucMiron: @Daniel: Oh, while it's crossing my mind: Do you remember the talk we had just before we left L'Enjeux a few weeks ago?
Daniel Bienvenu: about sounds?
LucMiron: @Daniel: I was telling you about how I had to choose between making a CV web site in 2009, or continuing the work on my homebrew projects.
LucMiron: Well, I've made my choice: I'm going to go with the web site.
Daniel Bienvenu: I think my opinion was to encourage you making your projects
LucMiron: Yes, but after thinking about it, I find myself in disagreement with your advice.
Guy B.: Mid 8th Cubs 5 Atlanta o. Cubs won the earlier game 10-2. They got rained out last night
LucMiron: I think making a proper web site is more important to the CV's cause than any homebrew a beginner like me could make.
Pamela: that's happening a lot recently : )
rich-c: well, Totronto never gets rained out at home
LucMiron: Besides, I'd like this web site to be the central hub for the CV clone project that you talked about on the AA forums this week.
Judy: we are not getting any rain
Pamela: ah yes, the joys of a closeable stadium
LucMiron: Judy: You want some? We got oodles of rain in Montreal. :)
rich-c: we have now had more rain this year so far than in the whole of last year
Pamela: as do we
Pamela: record amounts
Judy: Bob would probably say no, but our grass could use it
rich-c: new records in February, June and July, and January- July inclusive
LucMiron: Tell me about it. I'm on vacation this week, and I wanted to spend a day crossnig the Champlain peer, like I was telling you a couple of weeks ago. Haven't been able to do it so far.
rich-c: we are now told it is going to dry up a bit - though not necessarily tomorrow
Daniel Bienvenu: well, I simply had the feeling that if nothing spectacular is done for the coleco scene, the nostalgia factor we had during the last 8 years will slowly stop
rich-c: that's a lake level issue though, isn't it, Luc?
Guy B.: End of 8th inning. Cubs 5-0
rich-c: I think you are guessing correctly, Daniel
LucMiron: @rich-c: Lake level?
rich-c: sorry - think I'm misunderstanding something. What did you want to do?
LucMiron: @Daniel: I just spent the last two weeks shipping Opcode orders. The passion is still there, trust me.
Daniel Bienvenu: Because of this sensation of things going to stop, I suggested you to realize the games you wanted to do before it's too late.
LucMiron: rich-c: I wanted to cross the Champlain peer (estacade) with my bike.
Pamela: pier, Luc
Pamela: (I looked it up)
rich-c: ah, sorry - pont Champlain, the sidewalk - got it
LucMiron: Ah yes. Sorry, typing too past. My brain just used the most-used word. ;P
Pamela: Daniel, did you go to the festival?
rich-c: it's one of those places where French and English usage is somewhat different
rich-c: to us Anglos, a pier is a wharf where you dock boats, or the pillar that holds up a bridge
Daniel Bienvenu: I did go to the festival "fetes de la nouvelle france"... but I didn't saw many things. The temperature was not good.
Pamela: did you take pics?
Dale: My visit to Quebec City was pretty wet. We stayed there two nights.
LucMiron: @Daniel: Anyhow, if interest in the CV is winding down, I feel a good web site with lots of content will give the CV a good shot in the arm. That's my opinion anyway. I really think the CV deserves better than an outdated and abandoned FAQ.
Dale: I got to have supper with Daniel even.
rich-c: how long does teh festival go on, Daniel?
Pamela: and where else did you go, Dale?
Dale: But the one nice day, we went to the Quebec Aquarium.
rich-c: yes, a good website it seems can build interest in almost anything
Dale: Well we spent most of the trip touring places in Quebec.
Dale: I went on an amazing tour of a hydro-electric plan in Gatineau near Neil's place.
Daniel Bienvenu: @Luc : having a central point with updated information is a good idea. but we need more than that.
Dale: It generates 100 megawatts of power with 5 generators, and I actually got to stand instead the generator with the rotor above and the turbine below.
Dale: It was a 90 minute tour overall.
Dale: Quite amazing.
Pamela: was the aquarium anything like Chicago's?
Pamela: I think that would have freaked me out a bit
LucMiron: @Daniel: Agreed, but it a better start than just doing homebrews on my own.
Dale: I also when to the only Quartz Crystal mine in Canada.
Dale: Quite interesting. It is owned by someone who is interested in the crystals for their spiritual value I guess. But the tour was well rounded.
Daniel Bienvenu: @luc : the idea of a web site with central informations about colecovision homebrew and game system... is an idea many tried, and there was no way to satisfy everybody. my coleco web site was based on this idea and I didn't updated it because I didn't take my free time for that. So if you go with your web site, luc, think that it's a job to keep it updated.
Dale: Well the aquarium was really quite focused on the St Lawrence and things that can be found near Quebec City.
Dale: So it was quite interesting to see all of the major species of aquatic life that visits Quebec City, were previously it was all from Jeffrey's books.
Pamela: is the quartz mine a big enterprise?
Dale: There are 9 kinds of whales that have been spotted in Quebec City at various times apparently.
Pamela: I gather you're going back to school with Jeffrey : )
rich-c: yes, teh St. Lawrence is tidal and salt pretty well up to Montreal, so many salt species at Quebec
Pamela: and I gather whales get fairly far up the
Dale: Well it the 60s they mined quartz for industrial purposes, but now they mine only the crystals, and only about a week per year.
Pamela: St. Lawrence often
rich-c: what is it, belugas hang out around the Saugenay?
Pamela: do they allow you to do a little mining yourself?
Pamela: of the chip with a hammer variety?
LucMiron: @Daniel: I just have one answer to that:
Dale: Well, Jeffrey got do dig in the sandbox and retrieved a beautiful 1.5" long quartz crystal.
Dale: But don't try to tell him it was a plant.
LucMiron: @Daniel: I did that web site all by myself, and if you check the e-Card Catalog section, you'll see how demented I can be. :)
Pamela: I won't if you won't : )
Guy B.: Two more runs. Now 8-0 Cubs
Pamela: wow, Guy
Guy B.: Correction three runs. It was 5-0
Judy: we are watching the swimming
Pamela: a little wire and a leather thong and he'd have a really nice necklace
Dale: Luc, it has a similar feel to the opcode games site.
LucMiron: Yep, I did that one too. :)
Daniel Bienvenu: @Luc : I'm not saying to not make a web site, I'm sure it's a good idea... but I repeat, it's a job to update and you can't satisfy everyone.
LucMiron: Daniel: Watch me. ;)
Guy B.: Going to the bottom of the 9th Cubs 8-0
Dale: I tend to think that Daniel is correct. If you want to publish a bunch of ColecoVision games in the future, you should get it done over the next 10 years.
LucMiron: The only bad thing is the price I have to pay: No time for programming my own CV homebrews in 2009. But it's a price I'm willing to pay.
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Dale: Delaying a year to gain that skill doesn't seem like the thing to do.
LucMiron: Perhaps, but no one out there is willing to do a proper web site either.
LucMiron: Like Daniel said, several have tried, and they all pretty much failed.
LucMiron:,, the list goes on.
rich-c: have you any sense of why they failed? why they didn't draw the interest they need?
LucMiron: @rich-c: In most cases, they weren't being updated often enough.
LucMiron: was well on its way to becoming a great site, with manuals scans and everything, but then it just went kaput one day.
LucMiron: The guy behins that site probably had a big change in his life and couldn't update his site anymore.
rich-c: it costs money, too, to run a site - maybe the host raised teh price
LucMiron: @rich-c: Yeah, that's another possibility.
Guy B.: Cubs Win Final 8-0
rich-c: some hosting is cheap, but not necessarily where they were.
LucMiron: The way I see it, only I can do a web site that does the CV justice. I know it's an obnoxious thing to say, but that's how I feel about it. It's like a calling. :)
rich-c: Pam, your GO service wasn't affected by the explosion, was it?
rich-c: then Luc, go for it
LucMiron: If I don't do it, no one else will.
Daniel Bienvenu: @luc : the question is... what you can provide that others didn't provide to make a colecovision web site.
Pamela: no, no problems on the Georgetown line, too far west
rich-c: talent and mission, Daniel - both intangibles but critical
Pamela: I think the only one that was affected was the Barrie line
rich-c: yes, it runs right past the explosion site - must give a bit of a shiver when you pass it
LucMiron: @Daniel: 1) Scans of boxes, manuals, cartridges. 2) Reviews, 3) General articles, 4) Mirror for ColecoNation issues.
LucMiron: I might even include a small section for the Adam. Not sure yet.
rich-c: with respect, Luc, it would be ratehr negligent if you didn't - it is basically a CV expansion module
Daniel Bienvenu: something that should work is something like atariage web site... with a part archive, a part blog, a part forum, a part online shop. however, this kind of project wasn't a success in the past.
Pamela: I'll say, especially when you wonder what the shock wave did to the bridge
Judy: have to go make a lunch for Bob, so I think I will just call it a night, so, night all until next week
rich-c: I see we've lost Bob and wonder if Judy is still around
Pamela: goodnight Judy
LucMiron: Yes, but the Adam is a huge subject matter. I would only be covering the Super Games, and perhaps a few other things. Not the whole software library, especially the obscure third-party software that only the initiated know about.
Pamela: and goodnight to Bob
Judy: no, he is half asleep but trying to watch olympics
Daniel Bienvenu: coleconation unsubscribed to the colecoprograming yahoo group
rich-c: goodnight, Bob and Judy
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Pamela: TiVo I say
Guy B.: Left mighty fast
rich-c: no Luc, I agree you would want to focue on teh game abilities of Adam
rich-c: but as you note there are teh Supergames and third-party games too
Pamela: not surprised, peopel go poof rather quickly recently
rich-c: I see no reason why anything you guys have written couldn't be distributed as an Adam tape as well if you wanted
LucMiron: As for having a forum, it's one issue I need to study. Perhaps I can strike some kind of deal with Albert at AtariAge...
LucMiron: I wouldn't want to spend too much time prepping forum-support software. I'd rather spend that time on adding actual content on my site.
Dale: If you don't create your own forum local to your site, I can't see how you'll ever have more than a site that is referenced by wikipedia.
Dale: No forums means no community to me.
Daniel Bienvenu: some people lilke myself, doesn't have time to write a message in every forum around the world... so subscribing to a new forum was an obstacle and fail in some coleco web site proejcts.
LucMiron: @Dale: True. That's why I need to study the problem and find a proper solution that doesn't involve me spending months developing PHP software just so I can have my own forum.
Daniel Bienvenu: however, the first web site, before rwb bought the name, was a nice site with video ads and a forum that worked.
rich-c: Is teh php bb software that hard to work with? I visit an awful lot of forums that use it
LucMiron: I think there's a lot of forum-support software out there. A quick search on SourceForge might yield some interesting results.
Dale: I like PHPBB3 myself.
Dale: But I have a partner who perfers the commercial vBulletin.
Dale: He is quite skilled at making sites. If you like I'm sure he could set up forums of your choice to your specifications.
Daniel Bienvenu: what is working right now is forum with a limited but easy file attachment to share beta versions and pictures.
Dale: He does it as a hobby, but has seriously considered doing it full time.
rich-c: I remember Autoweek used to use vBulletin but they dropped it, don't know why - capacity issue, maybe?
Dale: The licence for vBulletin needs to be renewed annually Richard.
Dale: That is probably why.
rich-c: I don't think that would be an issue with Crain Corp., Dale
Dale: Well every time it comes up for renewal they have to decide if they want to keep it.
rich-c: I know hosting site uses for its forums
rich-c: I think they went to another commercial program, but haven't looked to see really
Dale: If you want open source, phpbb is definately the leader, so the support for it is easiest to come by.
Dale: But for sure, it isn't the only game in town Luc. I've seen maybe 10 or so serious options.
rich-c: yes, it's on a number of teh medical support sites Frances visits as well
Dale: Too many to really evaluate properly I guess.
Dale: And I don't personally thing the exact choice of forum software is all that important since they all do more or less the same thing.
rich-c: a popular one means visitors encounter a friendly and familiar interface, which can be useful
LucMiron: @Dale. phpbb, eh? Can the appearance of it be tweaked to match the look-and-feel of the rest of my web site (whatever it may turn out to be)?
Dale: The customize of the look and feel (called skinning the forum) is definately a basic core feature of phpbb.
Dale: Quite easy to tune.
rich-c: I have only seen one version, basically, but I know there is flexibility in some areas.
Dale: There are even a whole bunch of sample looks for you to start from.
LucMiron: That's nice. But then there's the issue of web space. AtariAge has oodles of it, apparently. I'd need to find a huge amount of web space. Not just for the forum, but for all the scans of boxes and manuals too.
LucMiron: I really need to discuss this with Albert...
rich-c: well, how detailed do you want to make the scans, and what sizes? A jpeg of a CV cartridge doesn't produce much of a file size
Daniel Bienvenu: sorry guys, I will leave for tonight. luc, i don't want to discourage you in any way, and if you think doing a web site is the best thing to do, then go ahead. dale, I will continue working on the minigames 2 project and talk to you later this week when the project will compile just fine.
LucMiron: Okay, Daniel. Talk to you later!
Dale: Sounds good Daniel.
rich-c: night Daniel, and do post some pictures from the Festival
Guy B.: Pam, my new unit should be coming soon, but apparently Cochlear never got the assignment of benefits. So, I have to print it out and resend it to them
Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit a tous
Guy B.: Night Daniel
Dale: And Luc, do what your heart says. Anything else will surely be the wrong thing.
LucMiron: Bye Dan!
Daniel Bienvenu: talk to you next week.
Pamela: that's good news Guy
Pamela: night Daniel
rich-c: a la prochaine, Daniel
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LucMiron: @Dale: As I was saying before, would you like me to show you some samples of my CV graphic work?
Pamela: but define soon?
Dale: Luc, wouldn't you want to own your own web space?
Dale: Sure Luc.
Dale: I think you have my email address, if they aren't on the web already.
LucMiron: Well, I could buy some of my own, there are a lot of options out there for web hosting.
Dale: For a long term site, it is best if you have control of it, from what I've seen.
LucMiron: I'll have to do my homework, I guess. :)
rich-c: yes, depending on teh bandswidth you want, some are very cheap
Dale: I've been recommending for a few years now to people, and so far everyone is quite happy with it.
LucMiron: @Dale: I don't think I have your e-mail address in my records...
Dale: The cheapest site from them is only $2/month, and is 100mb to start.
Guy B.: Should be. I'll check the status in a few days
Dale: Well the best email address for me is dmwick at
rich-c: you're using yahoo now and not hotmail, dale?
Dale: Well, mailing lists always go to hotmail.
Dale: But for personal email that you expect me to read, I read it at yahoo.
Dale: I check hotmail weekly
Dale: I check yahoo every day or two.
rich-c: yes, it helps to segregate them
Dale: yahoo also goes to my iPhone, so sometimes I'll see that email in minutes, instead of days.
rich-c: I have four active webmail accounts - always helps to have one or two expendables
rich-c: btw, I seem to be seeing a very sharp decrease in spam teh last few weeks - what about you-all?
Pamela: actually mine seems to be increasing
Pamela: but that might just be perception
Dale: It goes up and down over time for sure.
Dale: I'm not sure what the current trend is.
LucMiron: @Dale: I just sent you a sample by e-mail.
rich-c: we are way down on Nigerian letters and phishing, and porn too I think
Dale: I know in July someone figured out a spam attack that would beat hotmails fitering, for a week or two.
Pamela: oh, I got a variation on the nigerian letter recently
Pamela: 'twas quite amusing
rich-c: so far gmail seems to have the best filtering among my regulars, but is pretty good too
Pamela: swiss banker with money to split, discreetly of course
rich-c: yes, your mother sort of misses them, Pam
Dale: Luc, got em.
Pamela: LOL Dad
Dale: Yup, there's some nice stuff there for sure.
Pamela: they have a certain amount of amusement value
Pamela: what's scary is that people actually fall for this stuff
LucMiron: Just one of those projects I'll probably never get around to doing, but still, I like to show it off sometimes. :P
Dale: Well spam is interesting in it's own way :-)
rich-c: the unfortunate part is when you get a genuine one from some poor backwoods retailer who does know better
Pamela: depends on what you're interested in : )
Dale: The art is based on an atari game?
LucMiron: Yeah, it's an isometric take on the SwordQuest series.
rich-c: some of the phishing is quite clever - I've had to double check a couple with the spoofed source
Pamela: the latest one is TD Banknorth
LucMiron: @Dale: Well, at least now you can see how I can help you with Dracula, although I'm sure you only need help with the sprites.
Pamela: which leads to, "oh, please"
rich-c: oh, we've had both TD/CT and CIBC phishing lately
Dale: There are quite a few sprites to do:
Dale: dracula, and the hero.
Pamela: I wouldn't respond to them any way
LucMiron: No other NPCs?
Pamela: all the banks say they NEVER ask for information that way
Dale: The hero's fiancee, and a bunch of Dracula's vampires.
Dale: And a few other small things.
rich-c: I send them to spoof or abuse at teh bank in question, they come back with a no it isn't us
LucMiron: From the video, the house doesn't seem all that large. Do you have a good idea of what you're going to do in terms of gameplay?
Dale: I made a complete game plan before I started drawing art.
LucMiron: Good. :)
rich-c: then they tell me not to answer - hey, if I didn't know what it was I wouldn't have tipped them anyway
Dale: On the first day, all of the action takes place in the first room.
Dale: It felt bigger than Dragon's Lair to me.
Pamela: one has to wonder just how many people get hooked by this stuff
Dale: Do I remember Dragon's Lair incorrectly?
LucMiron: I don't see how Dracula relates to Dragon's Lair at all, to tell you the truth. :P
rich-c: Dragon's Lair was too big to fit on a cart, wasn't it, Dale?
rich-c: it needed to be on a disc or tape
Dale: There was a cart version and a tape version.
Dale: Well, Donkey Kong has only 4 screens, and people write about the ColecoVision that they used to play it for hours.
rich-c: I don't think I ever saw teh cart version, though I did with most other Supergames
Dale: So I'm not sure how big a house you really need, as long as all of the settings contribute to the game play.
LucMiron: The cart version was only recently uncovered. It only features the first level, and it's slightly different from the Adam game.\
rich-c: so it was never issued commercially, really?
LucMiron: Nope. It was only a prototype.
Pamela: well gentlemen, I think it's time I departed
Dale: Goodnight Pam.
Pamela: Dad, this is a trailer weekend
LucMiron: Wow, 11PM already??? I need to go too.
Dale: I'll find that address and send off your shirt tomorrow.
Guy B.: Well folks, going to take Annie out soon. Will see you all next week
rich-c: yes daughter, take care - going to the trailer this sweekend
Pamela: check the form or one of my e-mails Dale
Pamela: goodnight Guy
rich-c: Goodnight, Luc and Guy B., and Pam, then
Guy B.: Poof
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Pamela: facebook me if you can't find it Dale and I'll re-send
rich-c: Pam, you know about the Facebook virus?
LucMiron: @Dale: We'll discuss Dracula further later. I've been told by Daniel that the release date is set for october 2009, so I guess we have plenty of time to discuss it. :)
Pamela: I heard there was one Dad
rich-c: I'll try and find you teh story and mail it to you at Tamco
Pamela: okay
Dale: Sounds good Pam.
Pamela: goodnight all
rich-c: enjoy the trailer, then
Pamela: thanks Daddy
Pamela: kerpoof
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Dale: I want to do it well Luc, so I'm not planning to rush it.
LucMiron: kerpoof? Is that poof in Japanese...?
Dale: I want the game play to be excellent.
rich-c: well, it's that hour, so I'll pack it in too
Dale: not Japanese, more like cartoon-talk.
rich-c: goodnight, gentlemen
LucMiron: For a game like Dracula, it's how you use the environment that counts. If you can breeze through the game in 15 minutes, it's no good.
LucMiron: Bye rich!
rich-c: colour me gone
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Dale: Exactly so.
LucMiron: So are you going to randomize item placement? Perhaps randomize rooms, even?
Dale: I started working on Dracula last year, but without a release date in mind at the time.
Dale: There is value in randomizing item placement.
Dale: I'm not convinced that randomizing rooms makes sense.
LucMiron: Yeah, but the mansion being what it is, some magic traps might lead you to secret rooms, or whatever.
Dale: It is possible.
LucMiron: There's plenty of ideas to explore. :)
Dale: For sure.
LucMiron: On the other hand, I wouldn't want to impose my ideas onto your project.
LucMiron: That would be disrecpectful.
LucMiron: disrespectful.
Dale: I'm sure I'll send you a build for comments when it gets to that point.
Dale: I always like to try to make my games better.
LucMiron: That would be nice. I'd love to be able to say I participated in that cool project.
LucMiron: Well, I guess I'll call it a night.
Dale: good night.
LucMiron: Talk to you soon!
Dale: I'll go to.
Dale: For sure.
LucMiron: Bye!
Dale: poof
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