Dale: Evening. Dr. D.: Hello Dale, sorry it's been awhile. Dr. D.: BTW I am still unable to login to coladam admin website, it does not like the password I used to use. Dale: let me check. Dale: I did have it working for me before. Dr. D.: I can at least get to the page, it just does not accept the password, "Authorization failed". Dr. D.: At one point, even the admin page was unavailable. Dale: Maybe I set it wrong. I just changed it to the one I think you used before. Dale: Try now. Dr. D.: Now it works, thanks.
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changed username to rich-c Dale: My mistake. I set it to a similar password, but not the correct one. Dale: Hi Richard. Dr. D.: Hello Richard. rich-c: swell hello stranger - and Dale Dr. D.: I know, it's been too long since I was here. rich-c: well, it's to be hoped matters will improve now, Rich Dr. D.: Last week we were on pins and needles, plus I was beat from a day of driving and walking around Montreal. Dr. D.: Rin received her visa in the mail, but it came while she was at work and unable to sign for it, and she can't get to the post office to claim it until Friday. rich-c: yes, we are planning some small touristing soon - more when the rest of the gang arrive Dr. D.: Yeah I figured I would wait for people to show up so I could tell the tale just once. Dr. D.: Not sure if Rin will show up or not, she is at a work event in Mississauga that she hasn't left yet. rich-c: we'll nag Dale ionstead about updating the chat log, so Frances feels better when she reads it rich-c: Pamela wasn't expecting her Dr. D.: I asked him nicely to fix a login to the coladam-admin webpage and he did it...no nagging required rich-c: Pam was over here afternoon and early evening so will be late coming on Dr. D.: Rin told me by phone last night that she might stop by, was hoping to be home by 9 to 9:30 PM, but wrote about 20 minutes ago to say only that she would be leaving "soon". Dr. D.: She is at the mercy of others for transportation. Dr. D.: At least she likes my new car, well enough to start calling it "her" car, so perhaps she will actually knuckle down and learn to drive it when she gets here. rich-c: did she tell you about the picture in the Star of he mother and her transportation? Dr. D.: Yes I saw the photo...cheesy... rich-c: it's a news photo - kinda banal I realize, but fun Dr. D.: Cynthia looks quite out of it, not so flattering. rich-c: Pamela mentioned that you had changed the van for some new wheels Dr. D.: Yes, both front strut towers were rusted out and it could not survive another winter. Dr. D.: 110K miles, was going to need tires, starting to use oil... Dr. D.: It was a good car, just wore it out: 55K miles put on it in the last 3 years. rich-c: it is really upsetting when you hit I speed bump and it punches the struts up through the hood ; - ) Dr. D.: "New" one is a 2006 Jetta, used with 23K miles when I got it, now 26K in just one month! Dr. D.: It didn't get to that point but no way I wanted to have a breakdown en route to Montreal. Dr. D.: I got $500 in trade for it, when book value was probably $100. Dr. D.: Everything else on it was good, it looked good, interior was very good...but it had accumulated dings, some from when it was Joan's car. rich-c: cars are appardently selling really cheap in the U.S. now - I can't believe some of the prices the carnuts guys are quoting Dr. D.: I made a website of photos for Rin, to show her before I had a chance to drive up there with it. Dr. D.: This one was $17999, certified used by VW, 1-driver lease car. rich-c: which engine does it have? Dr. D.: The 2.5L 5 cylinder. Dr. D.: 6-speed automatic rich-c: not the diesel, then Dr. D.: No diesel. rich-c: even without it, I'llbet you got some nice numbers on teh run to Montreal and back Dr. D.: If Rin were more confident about learning to drive standard shift, I could have gotten essentially the same vehicle, same miles, for $1500 less.
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Dr. D.: Highway was 32-35 MPG. In town it is 20-22 depending on how short the trips are or if I need the A/C on. rich-c: salut, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: 1,2,3,4... all together now Dr. D.: I am still calibrating the gas gauge. rich-c: that's US gallons? Dr. D.: Yes. Daniel Bienvenu: hello, Rich, Dr.D, Dale Dale: Hi ya Daniel. Dr. D.: Hello Daniel...you will be proud of me, I spoke elementary French whenever possible in Montreal last week. Dr. D.: Don't ask me to spell what I was saying though. rich-c: that's livable with, and better than the old van - were you able to transfer the plate? Dr. D.: Yes, so it is still "RICH RIN" Daniel Bienvenu: I'm proud of you, Dr.D. :) Dale: Jeffrey's been learning french at school, since he's in French Immersion this year for grade 1. Dr. D.: Merci Dr. D.: I had French taught via closed-circuit TV in grade 2 :-) Dr. D.: I know colors, how to count to 39, some songs rich-c: good for Jeffrey, it can do nothing but help him long term rich-c: anyway with a learner an automatic is likely an advantage rich-c: it may prevent sudden shock loadings of the drivetrain Dr. D.: I learned on a 3-speed column-shift truck, and a 5-speed Toyota Dr. D.: The accelerator on this car is very sensitive, it does not take much to get it going. I am still learning, I watch the tach and try not to go over 2000 RPM and that seems to help it shift smootly. rich-c: I never had an automatic till 1973, and then only because the trailer hauler didn't offer a manual Dr. D.: North America seems to be the only place that people drive automatics; all my European friends laugh, they have never seen an automatic. rich-c: well, Europeans take their driving a great deal more seriously Daniel Bienvenu: I had no immersion at school... except in the pool. seriously, I wasn't good at all in the english and french courses at school... able to speak one, not the other, and having difficulties to write both. I fixed that, by myself, with a lot of emails and messages since 1996. Maybe I didn't feel the need to learn well both languages before my first contact with the world. Dr. D.: Re: French, people seemed appreciative if we used it for simple things, even if we had to do actual conversation in English. Dr. D.: It was interesting to see how clerks and waitresses etc. figured out what language to use. rich-c: yes, it's their turf, acknowledge their tongue Dr. D.: They would greet someone with "Hi...Bonjour" and wait to see which language the person responded with. Waitresses were very good at that. Daniel Bienvenu: My father, a french canadian like me, mostly got answers in english during his trip in France. They was thinking he was an english person, probably because of the accent they don't recognize. rich-c: makes for better tips - and they can listen for an American accent Dr. D.: I could read signs and menus much better than Rin, because I know etymologies etc. from Latin. I don't know the rules for what letters not to pronounce, however. rich-c: I believe it was Guy Lafleur who said after his third day in Paris he switched to English Dr. D.: If I were there a week or two I would get better I am sure. Daniel Bienvenu: I can give you a hint... a word in plurial, ends with an s, but you don't pronounce it. rich-c: even the opnes who understood his accent made fun of it - and Parisians can be pretty cutting about it rich-c: and for a non-Francophone to try to pronounce "y" - that's a givewaay for sure Dr. D.: I never had any formal French grammar instruction; my grade-2 experience was all speaking. So I can "sing" songs that I have no idea how to spell. Daniel Bienvenu: well, if you can't prnounce U and OU without saying "YU" and "YOU", you will have problems to pronounce many words in french Dale: I think I was okay at pronouncing French, but I quickly grow worse at it, without practice. rich-c: that is for sure, Daniel! Dale: And helping Jeffrey with his homework requires that I get better at French. Dale: I keep pronouncing things wrong. Like yellow is one of the drill words for this week. rich-c: yes, I think you will find it does come back rich-c: ah,jaune - oui,c'est difficile Daniel Bienvenu: there is more "vowel sounds" in french. and we have double-V, not double-U. rich-c: yuou mean when running through the alphbet, Daniel? Dr. D.: Sadly, the more I concentrated on speaking with what I thought was an exaggerated, stereotyped French accent (like Pepe Le Pew or Maurice Chevalier), the better it seemed to be understood. Daniel Bienvenu: wagon... you say "ua-gon", but we say "va-gon". Dr. D.: I was not trying to mock anyone...but it made the words come out sounding better. rich-c: French is a very expressive language - like Spanish or Italian, maybe with less arm waving Dr. D.: On the streets, it seemed about a 50-50 mix of people speaking English or French. rich-c: well remember that the "exaggerated" or "comic" French has its roots in real linguistic differences Dr. D.: Some people were definitely speaking "Franglais", interleaved bits of both languages.
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changed username to Pamela Daniel Bienvenu: canadians are good in frenglish Daniel Bienvenu: or franglais rich-c: yes, although our main centre of franglais is Ottawa Dr. D.: And everyone says "okay" Dr. D.: Hello Pam Pamela: hi there rich-c: hello daughter, fed now? Pamela: yes, leftovers Dr. D.: I presume Chinese from last night? Pamela: yup Dr. D.: No food here today, I was home sick after throwing up all night :-( had to cancel my class today Pamela: oh ick Rich Pamela: reaction? Pamela: allergy? Dr. D.: No idea, maybe rich-c: we have been discussing anglos trying to cope with French in Montreal Dr. D.: I had to take the girls to school, but then went back to bed until 5:30 PM Pamela: stopped now? Dr. D.: I did not encounter any "mean" francophones. Dr. D.: Stopped, have been wary about even drinking water though. Daniel Bienvenu: oh... yes... in french... R is very very different. it's not "are" it's more like "air", but it's not correct yet. rich-c: they seem to be a diminishing tribe Dr. D.: Daniel, the R is trilled, yes, in the back of the throat, not the front as in Spanish? rich-c: yes, half a century and more ago, my high school French classes were big on pronunciation Dr. D.: At least that is what I seemed to hear when people spoke. Pamela: ice water in small sips helps I find Daniel Bienvenu: English : "Montreal = Mon-treal", in French : "Montreal = Mont-real (don't pronounce the T)" Dr. D.: Yes Erin told me that. Dr. D.: And the N is through the nose rich-c: you can pick up a lot just watching Canadian football and hockey Pamela: it seems pronunciation is one of those things that is learned, I don't think you can explain it rich-c: well, no, but you can provide lots of examples and coaching Dr. D.: What I like about German is that there are just a few rules, and spelling matches pronunciation. Dr. D.: If you know the rules, you can read a passage of German out loud perfectly, even if you don't understand anything in it. rich-c: yes, Frances has remarked on that Daniel Bienvenu: some people are rolling the R with the tongue, but most of us are making the R with the throat, and it can vibrate the uvula at the same time. Dr. D.: For French, I don't know the spelling-to-pronunciation rules. rich-c: of course there may be a problem if it is inthe Gothic script! Dr. D.: hehe blackletter is very hard to read rich-c: especially as your eyes get older Dr. D.: I have had to wade through 19th-century anatomical treatises in blackletter, ugh it is hard. Dr. D.: Plus that was 2 spelling reforms ago :-S Pamela: did you get a good laugh from them? Dr. D.: Slug anatomy in German I suppose is comical. rich-c: I keep forgetting - what is the language requirement for a Ph.D now? Pamela: oh I thought you were talking about human anatomy Daniel Bienvenu: Did you had fun talking in french in Montreal? rich-c: wonder wehre the Slopsemas are tonight? Dr. D.: I have done those too Dr. D.: BTW Rin is on the phone, so I am managing 2 conversations Dr. D.: I had no language requirement for my Ph.D., Richard. Dr. D.: I did, Daniel. rich-c: OK, will she be joining us? Dr. D.: I am not sure, I will ask her. Pamela: since I'm talking to Cynthia I understand Dr. D.: She just got home from her event. Daniel Bienvenu: half of the population in Montreal speak french, the other half speak enligh, chinese, and other languages. Daniel Bienvenu: many many many are bilingual and trilangual rich-c: don't even ask what gets spoken in Toronto, although there are areas where English is quite common Dr. D.: I probably heard them all on the street, Rue St. Catharine. rich-c: you want to hear languages, ride the Bloor St. subway Daniel Bienvenu: yes, and I pretty sure in french it's SaintE-CathErie with these E. rich-c: Mandarin, Swahili, Urdu, Pashto, Tagalog, Arabic, Hindi, Spanish, Portuguese, Greek all common Dr. D.: I would have to look at a map :-) Dr. D.: Erin says she will be here in a bit Pamela: cool Daniel Bienvenu: At the market "Jean -Talon", during summer, you can buy fruits and vegetables, and heard some french, english and italian, all mixed in this single place. rich-c: phonicall in English, Daniel, I'd make it (rue) San't Cat-are-een Pamela: you mean phonetically, Pamela: Dad? rich-c: yes, keyboard cant spell - got distracted Daniel Bienvenu: I think it's maybe more like : San't Catreen... if it makes sense to you rich-c: I tend to claim to be sesquilingual, solid English, half-good French rich-c: makes perfect sense to me, Daniel rich-c: I am much better with writing than speech in either language Pamela: I understand much better than I speak Daniel Bienvenu: In french, we tend to not pronounce some E... but it's not always true, like in a poem. Pamela: I've lost my vocabulary over the years rich-c: regret to tell you, daughter, that that ability fades with age Pamela: simply lack of use
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changed username to Cubs04 Pamela: Hi Guy Cubs04: Greetings Cubs Fans!!! Dr. D.: But it's 08 Guy Cubs04: Four is the magic number for the Cubs to clinch the NL Central Dr. D.: Ah rich-c: hello Guy Daniel Bienvenu: Well difficult to speak french... but we try to write it, at least phonetically. ;-) Dr. D.: well good luck to them Dr. D.: My Indians have already rolled up the teepees for the year Cubs04: I read the good news Dr. D. Dr. D.: It is very good news Guy Dr. D.: Now I just need to get Rin across the border safely. Daniel Bienvenu: But Guy... you are still in Australia? rich-c: welcome aboard Rin, too Dr. D.: Can't wait to show her off here. Cubs04: Yes indeed. I bet she is looking forward to coming here Rinette: hi Uncle Richard rich-c: no Daniel, that's GuyB in Chicago Rinette: I'm looking forward to being with my Hubby Pamela: Rin, did you get my e-mail? Rinette: uhhhh....no Cubs04: Yep, that's me Pamela: about five minutes ago Cubs04: By the way. The Brewers are leading 3-1 Rinette: oh...lemme check Pamela: check your personal bb rich-c: just so everyone knows, Frances wants to go joyriding next week Daniel Bienvenu: oh well, I did mix them... again. Cubs04: I'll be back in a few minutes. Got to catch up on the e-mail Dr. D.: I thought she didn't drive, Richard rich-c: we will likely pick accommodation with hi-speed internet so we'll still be here Dr. D.: Are you staying in this hemisphere? Rinette: got it rich-c: she doesn't, so I have to play chauffeur Dr. D.: So where are you driving to? rich-c: I think she feels she needs to review the Corning Glass Centre - it's a long time since we were tehre Dr. D.: Somewhere in NY? I can't remember where Corning is...Rochester? rich-c: there's also other stuff in the area we can hit from a base in Corning Dale: I think it is in Pensylvania. rich-c: down in the souther tier, west of Binghamton and Elmira Rinette: hi Dale rich-c: no, in York State, but hard by the PA border Daniel Bienvenu: it looks like I have a problem with my computer... I have to leave a couple of minutes to see if it's because of the Java Virtual Machine. rich-c: Chemung River valley, iirc Daniel Bienvenu: talk to you in a few minutes rich-c: OK c u Daniel Dale: Hi Erin. rich-c: I guess now we can have the next Adamcon in Grand Rapids or Cleveland if so desired Dr. D.: Not Cleveland yet, I don't think... Pamela: Grand Rapids is the intended destination, I believe Dr. D.: And by then Rin can drive me there :-) Pamela: we're not going to dump it on Rich and Erin for at least a year yet : ) Dr. D.: In her pretty blue car rich-c: yes, Bob and Judy seemed to be sort of assuming that, and no one was arguinmg Pamela: I like your car Rich Rinette: hopefully...or die trying Pamela: very pretty colour Rinette: it's my car Dr. D.: my payments :-( Pamela: sorry, sweetie, wasn't thinking Dr. D.: Still have to get the flat tire from the trip fixed. Rinette: I told Rich he could have the baseball cap that came with it Pamela: LOL rich-c: oh, if you want to, you can be driving in a week or two, Rin rich-c: the early stages aren Rinette: oh? Dr. D.: But Rin has the hat rich-c: the early stages aren't eassy, but they can be mastered Dr. D.: She will have lots of chances to practice. Rinette: not a fan of graduated licensing...or TO traffic Dr. D.: There are some large parking lots around here that are good for practice. Dale: I'm hoping to get my company well enough funded that I can do AdamCon 22. Dr. D.: May still have to send her to driving school though, depends on her comfort level I guess. Dale: We'll see how the year progresses. rich-c: you don't start out in city traffic, Rin - that comes well down the road Rinette: definitely driving school
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changed username to BobS Pamela: Cynthia says she got an email from Sabrina today Dr. D.: Which ADAMcon are we on now? I have forgotten... BobS: me neither Dr. D.: Hello Bob. BobS: HI kids Dale: AC 20 was the last one. Rinette: what did it say Dale: AC 21 is the one in the planning. Pamela: Sabrina says she's starting to experience pains in the lower abdomen Rinette: hi Bobs rich-c: don't want to be a wet blanket, Dale - but I'm afraid some of our Americans may feel there's been too much Canada of late Pamela: the doctor says anytime now rich-c: hey, look who's here - welcome, Bob Rinette: neat....little niece Pamela: Hi Bob Dr. D.: As long as Rin can cross the border I don't care where it's at :-) Dale: Well it depends who is coming of course, in a way. Dale: But lately it has become a Canada dominated event it seems. Dr. D.: Well, Canadians are the main attendees, I guess it is only fair. BobS: Dale, Doug says he needs instructions for compiling TDOS from Dr D's source..........needed Z80MR, but all sources want source of AZM and don't want to use includes Dale: You can't use z80mr. Dale: It just isn't up to it. BobS: so got to use what? Dale: You have to use the formerly commercial z80asm+ I guess. Dr. D.: I gave Doug everything I had from Tony, but I had never tried to reassemble any sources. Dale: z80asmplus Dr. D.: I have Z80ASM+ Dr. D.: I had to run it under 22NICE but it worked, for all the HARDDISK stuff etc. Dale: I've made my own version for the AIM video board with 80 character mode natively on the Adam. Dale: So I've done it. Dr. D.: I bought it...it was like $150 back then. Dr. D.: So how are you Bob? BobS: me good, tired but good Dale: I heard a while back that it is no longer commercially available. BobS: working too many hours Dale: But I could be confusing that with another thing perhaps. BobS: but cutting back Dr. D.: Then it could be considered abandonware for our purposes I think. Dr. D.: Me too Bob, the travel and classes has been killer for me. Dr. D.: Spent today home sick in bed, slept until 5:30 PM. Dale: I think that I've even seen it on a released to the public type site. Rinette: you're smart to be cutting back Bob Dale: So look around for it on the web I guess. Dale: I've only used it under CP/M ot TDOS. BobS: i have z80asmplus. i used that to compile adamserve, eoshd, fileman, etc. Dr. D.: It worked fine in 22NICE. BobS: they all seem to compile into bootable images BobS: for the most part anyway.
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