Leinad: I'm the first one online tonight?
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changed username to BobS Leinad: good evening Bob BobS: Hi Ddanilel BobS: Daniel BobS: how's the weather in Quebec?????? Leinad: it's cold BobS: tis kinda cold here and just above freezing
moved to room Meeting Place Leinad: first days below zero, which is below 32 for you BobS: like about 10 for highs during the day
changed username to rich-c BobS: OH YUCK !!!!!! BobS: guess that means winter is coming, yes???? BobS: hey Richcard rich-c: greetinmgs, all - especially the visitor BobS: we are dipping below freezing at night also
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changed username to Guy B BobS: hi Guy Leinad: bonsoir Rich Guy B: Greetings!! rich-c: hey. Guy, you're early BobS: meet Leinad Leinad: hi Guy BobS: his is new here BobS: I think he is french or something BobS: maybe russian rich-c: salut, Leinad Leinad: bonsoir rich-c BobS: was discussing the weaather...or lack of warm to be precise rich-c: you anotehr of our Quebec game-writing crowd, Leinad? BobS: a GAMER !!!!!!!! rediculous rich-c: nous avons un omber des Quebecois ici, Leinad rich-c: nombre Leinad: I've heard of that rich-c: and is that a warning or an attraction? ;-) Leinad: I've heard that you guys did talk about Coleco Adam, and do meetings about it. Right? rich-c: anyway, Bob, what do you think of Joe and his banshee drive? BobS: normal drive screech problem rich-c: you have heard correctly, Leinad rich-c: we talk Coleco, we talk Adam, and we talk generally rich-c: depends on who is around and what they want to chat about BobS: can be cured if you really want to do it by changin our the motor or motors rich-c: I wrote telling him so and suggested he check in tonight for reassurance BobS: had and have some that scream at you, but work fine rich-c: and then you'll end up changing in new motors on their last legs - Murphy's law BobS: true true rich-c: sorry, Daniel, forgot my spelling - salut encore
Leinad changed username to Daniel Daniel: no problem Daniel: it's -2, -4 even -6 for this week. including our first snow rich-c: so our current cold wave has reached down to you, too BobS: we are expexcting some snow mix on Fri night Guy B: brb rich-c: we haven't had any snow yet, but it's been enough below freezing at ight to kill off all our flowers BobS: yup onlly about 10c during the day and below freezing at night rich-c: seems to be teh pattern across Canada and into much of the US BobS: BUT,next week may get into the 60* f range, above average rich-c: though our buddy in Lethbridge said they wre forecasting 20C there for the weekend rich-c: won't bring back Frances' tomatoes or flowers, though BobS: that woudl be nice BobS: nope, they are history for 2009 BobS: wait for 2010 crop Daniel: There are peoplewatching my videos and say that they dont have a ColecoVision... I guess they want to you that thay don't want to pay for a game system they have no interrest in but they like my games anyway. Daniel: 2010, june 18, AdamCon meeting. BobS: Judy says HI ........nit feeling too good, so not logging on Daniel: bonsoir Judy BobS: got the sinus cruds or something Daniel: take care! BobS: hit hard today
Daniel changed username to Nielda rich-c: OK, our best to Judy rich-c: Frances and I got our seasonal flu shots today - H1N1 in January BobS: not till Jan ?? rich-c: now I see we have an anagram Nielda: I've tried to contact Dale, to see if he's online... doesn't seem available for the moment rich-c: we asre on a doubly different pattern, Bob
Nielda changed username to Adeiln Adeiln: ( alphabetic order ) rich-c: seniors first are being given the regular seasonal flu shots - today was the first day, may be doing infants too
Adeiln changed username to Da Line rich-c: then we wait while the working age bracket gets teh H1N1 shot BobS: you are a little behind us here, now just getting the dead virus H1N1 shots rich-c: then in January we get the H1N1 - maybe Da Line: All I know it's November for voting and vaccine for us rich-c: well, there is a bunch of research, not published yet, that makes our people feel a revised pattern is better BobS: andf the BIG question is ...... wil the H1N1 flu really be that bad...... Da Line: My family don't know if they prefer the vaccine or the risk of getting the flu
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Da Line changed username to I'm away BobS: so who do you want us to throw out????
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changed username to Dale Dale: Hi all. BobS: was eating a sinfully delicous chocolate & caramel covered donut thingy Judy got at the grocery deli today BobS: hi Dale rich: it has to od with statistical analysis from other places rich: hello Daqle rich: Dale BobS: Daniel is away BobS: and Guy is reading mail or something rich: basically it seems there's an adjuvant in the vaccine that has an unanticipated effect BobS: swell rich: so they think seniors will be better off with the seasonal shot first BobS: jsut what you need from a vaccine BobS: oh yes, same process here in the staes BobS: states rich: and teh general population should have the special H1N1 shot first Dale: So they are making everyone wait for the regular flu shot here. rich: they don't know if they are right or not but that's the way the evidence is pointing
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changed username to Meeka BobS: hi MEEKA BobS: HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Meeka: hello PEV: Hi Meeka Meeka: thanks Dale: Really? My birthday was yesterday. So happy birthday.
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I'm away changed username to Daniel is here rich-c: hello meeka Daniel is here: I knew I did forgot something. Happy birthday Dale and Meeka< rich-c: and happy birthday, Dale PEV: your birthday too Meeka? Felicitations Daniel is here: I forgot and did forget... I know I've a problem with verbs Meeka: thanks Dale: Thanks. Daniel is here: to be ... so scary rich-c: gee, I have no problem with verbs at all - except in Franch, of course ;-) BobS: you doing great Daniel BobS: don't be kidding your own welf rich-c: cunjugating etre is not my idea of a good time PEV: Boy, October 14th is a popular date PEV: I know two other people with birthdays today rich-c: yes, Russell is getting pretty close, isn't he? Meeka: prob cuz jan and feb are COLD months ;-P PEV: Another month Dad PEV: Nov. 15th rich-c: didn't realize it was quite that long PEV: Don't rush it, please PEV: LOL, Meeka Meeka: I had a girlfire=iend in jr high that had the same date as me Daniel is here: Pam, did you read any line of the comic story made by Dale and Jeffrey? PEV: no - is it written down?
Daniel is here changed username to Daniel is rare Daniel is rare: Well, I did write emails to Dale, so some parts yes
Daniel is rare changed username to Daniel is moon Daniel is moon: But it needs to be rewritten, because I'm not good enough to write a good english and I didn't know well how to typ ethe characters' name.
Daniel is moon changed username to Daniel is pool Dale: But at least Daniel lets me edit his English for his YouTube videos now. Dale: I think they turn out better when they are edited a little. Dale: I don't usually just write myself. I write and then edit. Then it is ready. Daniel is pool: And because of that, Dale has the impression I'm stealing days.
Daniel is pool changed username to Daniel is rock Dale: You stole Tuesday from me last week. That's all I'm saying. Dale: lol rich-c: it is always better to have someone else edit, it brings a fresh point of view Daniel is rock: and for some other weeks too. ;-)
Daniel is rock changed username to Daniel is week
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Meeka confirmed ban Daniel is week: Last time we talked about "life" and "lives", "leaf" and "leaves", "tree" and "forest"
Daniel is week changed username to Daniel is well Daniel is well: sometimes, plurial is not easy! Dale: elf and elves. PEV: self and selves PEV: mouse and mice
Daniel is well changed username to Daniel is desk PEV: house and hice ; ) Dale: Daniel was suprised to hear that there is a rule in English that words ending in f change to a v when pluralized. PEV: (sorry, inside joke) Dale: moose and moose Dale: sheep and sheep Daniel is desk: See, I was sure it was "house" and "town" BobS: I am surprised also rich-c: die and dice Meeka: me either dad PEV: it's actually house and houses, Daniel PEV: like I said, inside joke Dale: and actually tree and trees. Daniel is desk: ( I know it's houses, Pam ;-) ) Dale: Clearly you can't find the forest for the trees. Daniel is desk: "datum" and "data", "erratum" and "errata" Dale: octopus and octopi Dale: yes, medium and media. Those are latin I guess. Daniel is desk: process,processes rich-c: so what's teh singular of mathematics? Meeka: math :-P Daniel is desk: a number ?... I know, algebra BobS: adds, minus's, guzzinta's and times rich-c: so then what's the plural of medium? BobS: multiple mediums Daniel is desk: it,s easy, rich PEV: that depends - are you referring to the size or the communicator with the dead? rich-c: you use a Romance language and have an unfair advantage, Daniel BobS: mediu's Daniel is desk: In french, we messed up... we use media all the time, and so when there is more than one we say "multi media". Daniel is desk: we do use the word medium, but not as it should be BobS: ah so Daniel is desk: we say sometimes a medium like if it was an intermediate step or phase. rich-c: same is true of the anglophones, Daniel rich-c: a newspaper is a medium; newspapers are media Daniel is desk: I've found something interesting rich-c: so tell us! Daniel is desk: it says here that there are some plurials that uses "s" instead of "a", like Bob said "mediums" and it seems that it's socially accepted... so accepted that some words are mentionned to have two plurial forms BobS: yup BobS: you will find that the english language is so full of execptions to ANY rules that the rules are almost useless Daniel is desk: like here, it says in wikitionary that the plurial of rectum is either recta or rectums Dale: What about roof and rooves Bob? I would say it like that but I might spell it roofs rich-c: yes, they are rare - what is amounts to is Americans have a problem with Latin, especially plural forms BobS: right dale PEV: oh to have $500K to spend on a new home BobS: tis not only americans if yo mean US, but any english speaking group rich-c: you aren't interested in being a homeowner, Pam PEV: where do a couple of mid-twenties get $500K for a brand new house? BobS: and then you get into "black english" and it is a worse mess with dropped words, adjectives, etc PEV: and how do you conclude this, Dad? rich-c: first, Bob, Commonwealth nations have a tradition of classical education emphasizing Latin rich-c: Pam, because you have often said so Daniel is desk: to be is for a state, and to have is for possession. well, in english your age is a status, but in french it's a possession. Daniel is desk: "maybe an exorcist will get rid of your age, miss pacman." BobS: don't ;make a difference Richard, we'uns all talk the same, education or no
Daniel is desk changed username to Daniel is king BobS: and with all the wierd rules, etc rich-c: I dunno, when I talk to a southerner it takes me three days to figure out what he's saying 8-) Daniel is king: it sonds like an inside joke... probably related to an adamcon meeting in the south I did miss rich-c: no, Daniel, it's just an observation from my own travels - it's like you trying to speak joual in Paris Daniel is king: they'll probably start talking to me in english in Paris rich-c: yes, even if you use your Quebec City accent, they have a reputation for smartassery there rich-c: you should have academic Fench from Laval so Frenchmen might recognize that if you use it Daniel is king: it's only part of them, like a cultural curse. they seems to understand only what they want to hear correctly.
Daniel is king changed username to Daniel is fire PEV: selective hearing : ) Dale: I found a website talknig about roofs/rooves and listing lots of other words that end with f. Daniel is fire: and why they are so proud to use more and more english-like words, like if it was the best thing they should do. It's France, they are supposed to speak french. Daniel is fire: do you know they don't walk outside but do "footing"? Dale: When you have multiple sides of beef, apparently a foriegn language teacher claims the plural is beeves. Daniel is fire: they don't take a sun bath, they go "bronzing" rich-c: technological leadership, Daniel - just as lots of French culinary terms have migrated into English Dale: But even if I asked our wives to take some loaves of bread and make beef sandwiches, I can't picture putting beeves on them. Daniel is fire: that's one we forgot... "wife" and "wives" Daniel is fire: well, I don't need to use that word rich-c: it's an Old English plural, Daniel, still used in rural areas but not, I believe in the cities Daniel is fire: so, I pardon myself to forget this plurial rich-c: and I think you would hear it more out west than in Ontario or Quebec rich-c: but it probably derives from boeuf or something even closer in old Franch Daniel is fire: I don't know about you but I'm sick of knowing things.. like those poor guys being beating in the west because they speak french... "speak white", I'm sick of this. rich-c: it doesn't happen much any more, daniel, likely just American immigrants in Calgary Daniel is fire: I've published one video in french, it gots comments like "in english"... no please, no nothing. So, I did tell the guy that it's first obvious to understand what is going on and also I've added subtitles. rich-c: Daniel, regardless of language, the world is full of ignorant people rich-c: so don't be surprised if you hear from a few Daniel is fire: And what is the problem of religious people in Nevada who think that instead of proving that something should be learn, they should use politics to force it. Creation is not science, get over it. I'm sick of this false debate, there is no debate about evolution theory, it's a scientific theory that explain that living creatures evolved. rich-c: Daniel, belief by definition is not rational Meeka: ok, i outta here Meeka: see ya next week PEV: bedtime? Daniel is fire: bye meeka, sorry PEV: night Meeka Meeka: for what Daniel?? rich-c: night meeka Daniel is fire: I did forget your birthday BobS: nite meeka Meeka: dont worry about it :-) Daniel is fire: I did have a calendar in facebook, but I forget about it Daniel is fire: I did asked for birthday in october Daniel is fire: and I forget it Daniel is fire: take care! bye! Meeka: its no big deal Meeka: night
Meeka left chat session Daniel is fire: I know that it's harmless to teach something that appears to take the flintstone as reality, humans living with dinosaurs, etc. Daniel is fire: it's like telling that there is a tooth faries rich-c: well no it isn't Daniel, it is just proof that politics and politiciasns are not rational Guy B: Ok back Daniel is fire: Before evolution theory was in school, people did go to school and they didn't seem to be more or less good people than today. Dale: Hi there Guy. rich-c: but it is in fact dangerous ultimately to teh survival of a country that depends on rational culture Daniel is fire: but it's not a reason to teach things in school because you want it to be true Guy B: I found an iPod Nano and I got an adapter for it. Doesn't work. At least it didn't cost me anything PEV: where did you find it? rich-c: maybe that's why you found it - it was a discard Daniel is fire: there are more and more parents who keep their kids home to teach them what is creation and don't say a word about evolution. it doesn't seem to be a big deal for them. Guy B: In all places, the men's washroom at work PEV: nobody has claimed it? rich-c: it is a big deal Daniel, big enough for them to keep their kids out of school Guy B: Put a notice up on the board. No one claimed it PEV: if it doesn't work, that's probably why : ) rich-c: that would be my guess Guy B: I did have it going, then poof, it went dead rich-c: probably got the repair estimate and chucked it BobS: put up a notice to sell the Ipod cheap Guy B: That's what I was thinking PEV: wonder if it's just a loose connection Daniel is fire: I know there are almost perfect copies of ipod... some of them have batteries that can explode. Guy B: Or it may need a new battery rich-c: even if it is, good luck in finding and fixing it Guy B: Oh, it has the ear phones too rich-c: oh, they are having exploding battery problems with iPods now too? PEV: he said copies Dad Daniel is fire: it's an old video, but it talks about fake ipod. Daniel is fire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtSrPRBCGnM rich-c: since I don't really even know what an iPod is, and have no urge to learn, I'll pass on this one PEV: mp3 player Dad Dale: they are the bad guys from "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" updated for the Internet. Dale: Of course. BobS: no time for such things. life is too busy already rich-c: sort of a lightweight, solid state Walkman? Dale: yes BobS: now walkman I can visualize rich-c: hear about them, see them, but have no urge to try them rich-c: watch teh kids with plugs in their ears and wires down their collars, Bob rich-c: I'm always at the computer anyway so just put on theradio.com rich-c: or classical96.3.com PEV: Guy, would it be compatible with your implant? rich-c: test Daniel is fire: I'm watching the video I did suggested to watch about fake ipods
Daniel is fire changed username to Daniel is sleepy Daniel is sleepy: I'm about to say goodnight rich-c: Pam, I think I sent you something on tampering at Tamco - cleared your box lately? Daniel is sleepy: ... Daniel is sleepy: goodnight all! PEV: yes tonite rich-c: bonsoir, Daniel PEV: gnite Dan
Daniel is sleepy changed username to Daniel is tired BobS: nitew Daniel BobS: getting ready for bed myself gang rich-c: OK - something funny is going on, not sure what, John can't guess either BobS: getting breakfast out and ready to ut together Daniel is tired: This weekend my Geocities web site will be gone. I still have to make my new version to be hosted BobS: si an gong to sing off also PEV: got two spam rich-c: right Bob, sleep tight, it's a heavy day tomorrow BobS: till nest week BE GOOD AND HAVE FUN Daniel is tired: bye
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BobS left chat session PEV: night Bob Dale: I've got to go too. Dale: Good night Daniel rich-c: right Dale, see you next week Dale: Good night everyone else. Daniel is gone: bye dale Daniel is gone: * poof * PEV: bye Dale Dale: pooves. Daniel is gone: lol
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Dale left chat session rich-c: anyway Pam I got a message "from Tamco" that wasn't, and mail for Ernie Chorny in my box, and stuff PEV: LOL PEV: yes I got two fake messages rich-c: I'm swapping messages with John in a desultory way, no big deal, nothing malicious showing yet PEV: even without the warning I would have been cautious about it rich-c: OK keep John informed, but no rush about it rich-c: you know your mom is going to the Needlecraft Show Friday? PEV: no, I didn't PEV: but not surprised PEV: don' PEV: t be surprised if she comes home with a sewing machine or something : ) rich-c: now I think it's called "Creative Crafts" or something, but the same deal rich-c: anyway iirc there's an Argo game that night so I will be OK rich-c: if I can keep my dinner down, that is ; - ) PEV: oh good, I'd hate for you to miss her : ) rich-c: yes, got to give her a night off now and then, you know PEV: where's your Toronto spirit? That never say die attitude? rich-c: actually, the Argos impersonated a professional football team last weekend even if not a successful one PEV: Russell is laughing PEV: Did you see the WPG-HAM game? rich-c: if they keep improving at the current rate they should win the Grey Cup in 2083 rich-c: yes, and Winnipeg really surprised me, never guessed they had that in them rich-c: wouldn't put it past Hamilton to bounce back, though - Bellefeiulle seems to be a good coach PEV: we were very impressed by the fourth quarter PEV: that is, Hamilton's fourth quarter rich-c: there were a bunch of good signs there rich-c: on the other hand I was disappointed by Calgary's showin g in Montreal rich-c: they just got toyed with and tossed aside PEV: I didn't see that game PEV: I think I slept through it rich-c: you missed a disappointment - they might as well have mailed in the points PEV: sounds like you and Russell need to sit down and dissect the NFL PEV: oops, the CFL, sorry PEV: typographic error PEV: : ) rich-c: yes, swatch your language, daughter! PEV: sorry Daddy PEV: BTW I think I've found a taker for the table rich-c: I have teh feeling that the attempt to invade Toronto via Buffalo is not going well for them PEV: good - we already have a football team rich-c: I'd forgotten about that - I do hope so PEV: was telling a co-worker about our table dilemma and she expressed interest rich-c: anyway I actually bought some new clothes yesterday - jacket and slacks PEV: really! PEV: for the UTS dinner? rich-c: yes, I don't fit the older ones that well anymore - I'm too short and too fat in the midriff PEV: have you shrunk that much? rich-c: not the dinner, it's in the school and 100 year old buildings aren't handicap friendly rich-c: yes, I'm shorter than you now as you know, yet my weight is the same - all around the middle PEV: have you checked on accessibility? By law they'd have to make it disability friendly rich-c: I am wondring is when my back broke some of the abs lost their anchorages and now I'm sagging rich-c: let's just say I'd find it a challenge, Pam - they have no elevators, no main floor washrooms PEV: have you checked? rich-c: anyway Sunday 25th my class is having a big luncheoun at the Old Mill and I will be going to that PEV: is Ian going to that one? rich-c: haven't heard, have to see rich-c: we will also be having another in January at the Military Institute on University Avenue PEV: I was able to open the pics and the chalk drawings by the way rich-c: great, trust you found them sufficiently rewardsing? PEV: the pics were interesting - there aren't many around of you that young PEV: and the chalk drawings were amazing rich-c: no, that ws the end of grade 8, a real fair few years ago, for sure rich-c: yes, I've got another st of different ones somewhere, if I could find them rich-c: by the way there was colour film then but it was so expensive no one could afford it PEV: you know, when I first met Scott Byers (you may remember him from TCI) he told me he was in the chess club and thats how he had gotten to know you outside of the usual library interactions PEV: my reaction was "my father plays chess????" rich-c: I even tried to show you teh game once but you lost interest quickly PEV: not surprised - I have no facility for strategy PEV: still don' rich-c: these days say I know how to play but don't PEV: t PEV: so I found the chess picture very interesting rich-c: yes, teh background details were not without their interesting aspects PEV: oh? rich-c: that was the sunroom at 32 Colin where Ian's fatehr had his radio shack - VE3BIF PEV: ah, ham radio rich-c: had a big 10-meter antenna in the back yard PEV: what does a ham radio antenna look like? Not like a TV antenna I'm guessing rich-c: btw, your ma just went out to take out the garbage adn there was a parcel on the steps PEV: does it tick? PEV: sorry, knee jerk reaction rich-c: from one of the carnuts with teh hubcap for the van in it PEV: oh, awesome! PEV: sent by US post? PEV: Fedex? rich-c: the ham antenna did look not unlike some of the early big tv masts, but bigger elements rich-c: USPS - the couriers charge unconscionable brokerage charges PEV: I have this weird, sci-fi picture in my head which probably has nothing to do with reality : ) PEV: well that was nice of him (her?) PEV: its good to have connections rich-c: look around and you'll still see some relics around town - I know there 's on on Melrose east of Ave Rs rich-c: well Jay announced he was going up to Carlisle for the big show so I asked him to look for me PEV: Carlisle where? rich-c: he was delighted- favour for friend and it gave purpose to his wanderings too Guy B: Well, I'm going to take Annie out. Will see you all next week PEV: night Guy rich-c: he scored it for five bucks, though the postage is $12 PEV: woot! Guy B: Poof
Guy B left chat session rich-c: but I couldn't find it through a dealer or a wrecker on the net so it's really neat PEV: very sweet rich-c: that's OK, ordered two new cpap machine seals adn the postage was $17 PEV: now's the time to buy from the US with the dollar climbing again rich-c: Carlisle, PA, the collector car flea market there is world-famous, now a n umber of weekends a year rich-c: a lot are single-marque or otherwise specialised but spring and fall are teh big ones PEV: it's nice to have a good excuse to go shopping, wherever you are rich-c: we were there many years ago, in gfact that's where we got those rolls a little ziplok bags we use for samll stuff PEV: and they were so hard to find back then - now, you can get them at Walmart and craft stores everywhere rich-c: quite possibly because the dealers found out how swell they would sell PEV: probably : ) PEV: anyway Papa, it's past my bedtime PEV: and I still have stuff to do rich-c: anyway - any idea when you will be able to help us with the trailer? PEV: what do you need? rich-c: to get the remains of the stone guard off, it's too high and too much reah for our backs rich-c: getting the battery moved can wait PEV: oh yes forgot about that rich-c: well, we won't have much good weather left... PEV: will probably have to be next week rich-c: whenever but it must be done and time's running out PEV: however we'll have to see how this weekend shapes up PEV: understood rich-c: right - remember our luncheon is on the 25th PEV: is Mom going? rich-c: yes' PEV: other than to have the combination, do you have to be there? rich-c: but time is fleeting - goodnight to you and Russsel rich-c: yes, we have other stuff to do rich-c: job will take several hands anyway PEV: we'll talk - and work it out PEV: goodnight for now Daddy rich-c: fair en ough - g'nite now PEV: kerpoof
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